34 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

More of a don't care what happens to people that have no connection to me or my family.

But let's face it, you wokes only virtue signal, I bet you don't give half your income to the 3rd world, which should be mandatory for all people that claim 'they care'.

But here you are in Thailand, using your foreign financial power to sleep with local women, same as the rest of us.

Just a guess, but I see it is easy for you to project your own feelings and thinking onto others.
Let's start in reverse; I don't sleep with local women. I've been happily married for the past 31 years. Next, you'd lose your bet. Both my wife and I are active in supporting others in less fortunate situations, especially here in Asia... even though they are not part of 'my' family.
And what should be mandatory is helping others. Not ignoring their needs because they aren't related to you. That's what is called 'humanity.' Some folks see that as the highest calling. Some apparently see it as a waste of time and energy because it doesn't do anything directly for them. There is a word for that in English; selfishness. It's not a pretty word, but many seem to revel in it.

8 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

From Gemini. You're welcome.

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Is the following statement true and honest?
Stop Measles vaccine for school children in Western Samoa ( a US protected territory,) and so far 88 Kids have died from Measles.

Result from the Gemini AI tool:

The statement is mostly false and highly misleading because it confuses two different territories, misstates how the vaccine halt occurred, and distorts the timeline of the tragedy.

While a severe measles outbreak did occur in the region, the claims regarding political status, the reason for stopping the vaccine, and the sequence of events are factually incorrect.

Fact-Checking the Claims

• "Western Samoa (a US protected territory)" — FALSE
  The territory mentioned is Samoa (formerly known as Western Samoa), which is a fully independent sovereign nation. It is not a U.S. territory. The statement confuses it with American Samoa, which is an unincorporated U.S. territory. Notably, American Samoa maintained high vaccination rates and suffered zero deaths during this period.

• "Stop Measles vaccine... and so far 88 Kids have died" — FALSE TIMELINE
  The statement inaccurately links the vaccine halt as a direct precursor to 88 deaths. In reality, the tragic 2019 outbreak resulted in 83 total deaths (mostly children under 5). The temporary halt of the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccine occurred more than a year before the outbreak even began.

Gemini is mostly correct given the input it was given. @FolkGuitar (FG) did mistakenly claim that Samoa is a US protectorate. But that error is irrelevant to the issues about measles vaccination in Samoa. Also FG seems confused on a number of other things in his post. Also, Trump obviously had nothing to do with vaccinations in an independent country... and who the He77 is Heggseted? I'm guessing FG is talking about RFK's visit to Samoa in 2019.

Despite RFK's testimony to Congress claiming his 2019 visit had nothing to do with vaccines... emails (from Children's Health Defense) have recently been found casting much doubt on RFK's testimony. The emails were to/from Edwin Tamasese, a Samoan anti-vax activist. More details here:

The measles outbreak was only loosely related to the Samoan government's halting of vaccinations in 2018. Much more likely is that the vaccination rate plummeted even after vaccinations resumed. Children's Health Defense's false claims on its website and Facebook ads were probably at least partially to blame.

6 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Just a guess, but I see it is easy for you to project your own feelings and thinking onto others.
Let's start in reverse; I don't sleep with local women. I've been happily married for the past 31 years. Next, you'd lose your bet. Both my wife and I are active in supporting others in less fortunate situations, especially here in Asia... even though they are not part of 'my' family.
And what should be mandatory is helping others. Not ignoring their needs because they aren't related to you. That's what is called 'humanity.' Some folks see that as the highest calling. Some apparently see it as a waste of time and energy because it doesn't do anything directly for them. There is a word for that in English; selfishness. It's not a pretty word, but many seem to revel in it.

Yeah, lefties always want to help non whites with other people's money.

It's all about you wanting to control other people.

I'm happy for you to help anyone you like with your own money.

But all that you really care about is telling others how bad they are.

On 6/26/2026 at 12:09 PM, FolkGuitar said:

The best thing about the anti-vax group is that they will self-correct. Unfortunately, a lot of good kids are going to die first.

We can see it happening already! Stop Measles vaccine for school children in Western Samoa ( a US protected territory,) and so far 88 Kids have died from Measles. Dr. Death (Heggseted) visited , but there was a news blackout. There had been ZERO deaths from Measles there for the last 25 years. The number of cases in Texas is rising now, too. I’m old enough to remember kids in Iron Lungs breathing for them because of Polio. We eradicated. Hasn’t been a case originating from the U.S. in 40 years. Just wait.

Absolute, monumental humbug Sir.

Straight out of Big Pharma's booklet.

Edited June 27Jun 27 by Stiddle Mump

On 6/26/2026 at 11:43 AM, gamb00ler said:

One of your more ridiculous oversimplifications of a incredibly complicated area of science. I"m sure such gross reductions in complexity are much more comfortable for you.

Good health is a lot more simple than the know nothing white-coats would have us to believe.

Nature rules! OK.

25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yeah, lefties always want to help non whites with other people's money.

It's all about you wanting to control other people.

I'm happy for you to help anyone you like with your own money.

But all that you really care about is telling others how bad they are.

One would think that the virtue signaling leftists would have learned their lesson after 50 years of failed aid to dysfunctional defective countries. Live Aid, Christian Children’s fund and all that other garbage was a colossal waste of time, emotion and resources.

Of course, their solution is to throw even more good money after bad, move them over to our countries (no Covid 19 vaccination required) and let them run wild.

Should never have helped in the first place. All that did was allow dysfunctional societies to multiply, grow larger, force themselves on the western societies and the white people that they hate so much and demand even more.

In hindsight, perhaps it would have been better to let nature take its course.

On 6/26/2026 at 12:09 PM, FolkGuitar said:

The best thing about the anti-vax group is that they will self-correct. Unfortunately, a lot of good kids are going to die first.

We can see it happening already! Stop Measles vaccine for school children in Western Samoa ( a US protected territory,) and so far 88 Kids have died from Measles. Dr. Death (Heggseted) visited , but there was a news blackout. There had been ZERO deaths from Measles there for the last 25 years. The number of cases in Texas is rising now, too. I’m old enough to remember kids in Iron Lungs breathing for them because of Polio. We eradicated. Hasn’t been a case originating from the U.S. in 40 years. Just wait.

So using your argument that is why the bubonic plague fatalities have been eradicated? Hmmm, but here isn't a vaccine. I could list many other deadly medical issues in the past that vaccines still don't exist but they are now a non-issue. Open your mind to other possibilities and your IQ magically rises 50 points :) BTW, I am a vaccine advocate but I don't blindly follow the exterts!

47 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yeah, lefties always want to help non whites with other people's money.

It's all about you wanting to control other people.

Your paranoia does the MAGA movement proud.
Of course I want to help people. That's what humans do! It's neither Left or Right. It's called 'society.' People helping people. But there have always been some who were too self-involved to care.

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Good health is a lot more simple than the know nothing white-coats would have us to believe.

You're bragging about your 1st grade level and criticizing the post graduates.....maybe that's why nobody listens.

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

You're bragging about your 1st grade level and criticizing the post graduates.....maybe that's why nobody listens

I have a massive following Gamby Sir. I've an International reputation to uphold.

A message for toddlers and babes; When you cry out in anguish, as an uneducated evil fool pushes in the needle, muttering 'safe and effective', I feel your pain. I will help best I can. Stiddle is here for you.

This anti-nature, anti-science poison injecting has to be stopped. And the whole pile of Big Pharma toxic £££$$$ rubble swept away.

Nature rules OK!

7 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

have a massive following Gamby Sir. I've an International reputation to uphold.

There's no real need to reinforce our assessment of your delusions so frequently.

You fit the profile of the type of poker player that bluffs too much and ends up giving all their money away. One of the other attributes of such a player is that they constantly think that the knowledgeable players are also bluffing.... and call bets too often...again giving away more money. In the game of life ... you can't afford that style of play. Wake UP!

11 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

There's no real need to reinforce our assessment of your delusions so frequently.

You fit the profile of the type of poker player that bluffs too much and ends up giving all their money away. One of the other attributes of such a player is that they constantly think that the knowledgeable players are also bluffing.... and call bets too often...again giving away more money. In the game of life ... you can't afford that style of play. Wake UP!

You are beyond any help Sir. However. There are babes and toddlers out there that must be saved from the 'safe n effective' know nothing, evil monsters out there. I'm trying to do whatever I can to help them avoid the Medical Industry snare, getting them ill and keeping them that way; maybe forever.

Nature has the answers we seek.

6 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are beyond any help Sir. However. There are babes and toddlers out there that must be saved from the 'safe n effective' know nothing, evil monsters out there. I'm trying to do whatever I can to help them avoid the Medical Industry snare, getting them ill and keeping them that way; maybe forever.

Nature has the answers we seek.

What a complete and utter load of politically motivated claptrap.

Some countries in the world have excellent total life healthcare. The fact that you obviously come from a country that sees life as something to be monetized is sad.

But you are allowed to have your opinion just don't go all evangelical and try to foist it on others.

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

What a complete and utter load of politically motivated claptrap.

Some countries in the world have excellent total life healthcare. The fact that you obviously come from a country that sees life as something to be monetized is sad.

But you are allowed to have your opinion just don't go all evangelical and try to foist it on others.

There is no such entity as a pathogenic virus Sir. If you think there is, then provide a link to where the white-coats have found one. And I don't mean that nonsense of growing them in the lab. I'm talking isolation and purification.

How do you think they make the toxic filth?

Keep the poison needles away from babes and toddlers.

4 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are beyond any help Sir. However. There are babes and toddlers out there that must be saved from the 'safe n effective' know nothing, evil monsters out there. I'm trying to do whatever I can to help them avoid the Medical Industry snare, getting them ill and keeping them that way; maybe forever.

Nature has the answers we seek.

You're just a parrot. Imitating the noise made by the uneducated, inexperienced people who are just too lazy to pursue the truth about vaccines, virology and a wide swath of health topics. Like a parrot... you don't have a clue about the facts underlying your favorite noisy rant. The only basis for your opinion is that it is what you wish were true so that all the silly assumptions you have made wouldn't get swept away by the river of truth.

Edited June 28Jun 28 by gamb00ler

On 6/28/2026 at 10:36 PM, gamb00ler said:

You're just a parrot. Imitating the noise made by the uneducated, inexperienced people who are just too lazy to pursue the truth about vaccines, virology and a wide swath of health topics. Like a parrot... you don't have a clue about the facts underlying your favorite noisy rant. The only basis for your opinion is that it is what you wish were true so that all the silly assumptions you have made wouldn't get swept away by the river of truth.

Oh dear. Having a bad hair day are we?

What is the truth about vaccines? I'll tell you. They are a made up concoction of toxic filth to prevent something that don't exist. The diseases that the vaxxes are supposed to stop, or lessen the effects of, are not diseases the white-coats would have us believe. They are the body trying to get back into balance after an insult.

I long walk in the Black Forest would do you the world of good Gamby Sir. Get with nature. It will enlighten you.

47 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Oh dear. Having a bad hair day are we?

What is the truth about vaccines? I'll tell you. They are a made up concoction of toxic filth to prevent something that don't exist. The diseases that the vaxxes are supposed to stop, or lessen the effects of, are not diseases the white-coats would have us believe. They are the body trying to get back into balance after an insult.

I long walk in the Black Forest would do you the world of good Gamby Sir. Get with nature. It will enlighten you.

Rip Van Stiddle is a better name for you. Been asleep through decades of hard work by the researchers. You're as flexible in thinking as a marble statue. And your 'research' is confined to strictly confirming nonsense.

Wake up... it's the 21st Century... not the 19th. Koch's gold standard is no longer shiny and a full assay reveals iron pyrite instead.

Edited June 30Jun 30 by gamb00ler

On 6/30/2026 at 2:09 PM, gamb00ler said:

Rip Van Stiddle is a better name for you. Been asleep through decades of hard work by the researchers. You're as flexible in thinking as a marble statue. And your 'research' is confined to strictly confirming nonsense.

Wake up... it's the 21st Century... not the 19th. Koch's gold standard is no longer shiny and a full assay reveals iron pyrite instead.

As far as vaccines and those elusive viruses are concerned, there has been nothing honest about any hard work at all. Just hood-winking, duping and hurting babes. toddlers, children and adults for $£$.

Koch's postulates are, and so they should be in any honest lab trial, the gold standard. If one is to do experimentation on a specific entity, the first step is to isolate and and purify that entity. Not assume this or pretend that. No science in that in any era.

Anyone with half a working brain can easily see, virology, along with immunology, vaccinology and others, should come under the general banner of 'medical fraudology'. There is simply no evidence for what these ologists claim. It's all a money-making industry; getting people ill and keeping them that way.

Nature has the answers we seek.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Stiddle Mump

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Koch's postulates are, and so they should be in any honest lab trial, the gold standard. If one is to do experimentation on a specific entity, the first step is to isolate and and purify that entity.

I've asked you before... do you believe in electrons? It's important that science understand them. Have they been isolated and tested? Of course not without extremely expensive and complicated equipment.

Koch had insufficient technology to assist him..... so he failed! Time to update your standards to something no older than last century.

How do we know how/what/when do viruses work? Scientists are so much smarter than you... they've figured out how to prove how the world works.... especially the cause of so many diseases..... viruses.

Edited 4 minutes ago4 min by gamb00ler