11 hours ago, JAG said:

"hand shandy Andy"

In case moderators are unaware, a hand shandy is a British euphemism for mastrubation.

I believe I used shandy Andy because of an interview he made saying he loves shandy..not hand shandy Andy, that was someone else but since the topic name has been changed we will never know 👍

9 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Hard to beat an incumbent popular Mayor in a dyed in the wool Labour electorate.

Give it time.

You’ll get over it.

Give it time.

9 hours ago, emptypockets said:

They never talk about the, now previous, incumbent labour MP who they crucified to allow the bye election to take place.

It is ALWAYS about the party, the country and people come last.

The right wing have been baying for Starmer’s blood, the rightwing media campaign against him started on his first day in o office.

Some rightwing members on this forum do little else but rant about Starmer.

The Labour Party were elected to Government, they are preparing to change the MP.

The rightwing aren’t happy that Labour are choosing a very popular replacement for Starmer.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The right wing have been baying for Starmer’s blood, the rightwing media campaign against him started on his first day in o office.

Some rightwing members on this forum do little else but rant about Starmer.

The Labour Party were elected to Government, they are preparing to change the MP.

The rightwing aren’t happy that Labour are choosing a very popular replacement for Starmer.

With or without Starmer' they still have a far' far' left' back bench so your kidding yourself it's just more of the same different name with Lord Alli's Coutes card.

Remember Starmer's downfall followed the pensioners mugging in the first weeks of his pathetic tenure Burnham will no doubt follow a similar path.

3 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

With or without Starmer' they still have a far' far' left' back bench so your kidding yourself it's just more of the same different name with Lord Alli's Coutes card.

Remember Starmer's downfall followed the pensioners mugging in the first weeks of his pathetic tenure Burnham will no doubt follow a similar path.

It seems voters wanted Andy Burnham as their MP, perhaps with hopes of him becoming PM, do try to come to terms with that.

I’ve posted a link above to likely Burnham policies, feel free to comment on what you like/don’t like.

Edited June 20Jun 20 by Chomper Higgot

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It seems voters wanted Andy Burnham as their MP, perhaps with hopes of him becoming PM, do try to come to terms with that.

I’ve posted a link above to likely Burnham policies, feel free to comment on what you like/don’t like.

It's not about his policies' is it! they have a manifesto' the whole wrenched shower were elected on or have you again forgotten the detail as usual.

3 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

It's not about his policies' is it! they have a manifesto' the whole wrenched shower were elected on or have you again forgotten the detail as usual.

The Labour Government were elected on their manifesto.

Or is that something you’ve forgotten?

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

I believe I used shandy Andy because of an interview he made saying he loves shandy..not hand shandy Andy, that was someone else but since the topic name has been changed we will never know 👍

You weren't, but perhaps not one or two others?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Labour Government were elected on their manifesto.

Or is that something you’ve forgotten?

Not Burnhams policies' is it. Your making things up again.

2 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

Not Burnhams policies' is it. Your making things up again.

Burnham’s policies align with the manifesto, they differ only in method.

Had you read both you would not know that.

13 hours ago, JAG said:

"hand shandy Andy"

In case moderators are unaware, a hand shandy is a British euphemism for mastrubation.

OK, after some reflection, I will admit that this was an unwise post.

Edited June 20Jun 20 by JAG

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I was in the UK February and March, staying in cities, towns and villages.

I even made it to Lowe’s constituency, though it wasn’t a highlight so I went up the coast away to stay in Blakeney at the Blakeney Hotel (superb) and dinner at The Moorings (sublime cold water seafood).

Try not to miss these if you’re ever out that way.

It was a wonderful trip, I can’t wait to go back, perhaps next summer.

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I was in the UK February and March, staying in cities, towns and villages.

I even made it to Lowe’s constituency, though it wasn’t a highlight so I went up the coast away to stay in Blakeney at the Blakeney Hotel (superb) and dinner at The Moorings (sublime cold water seafood).

Try not to miss these if you’re ever out that way.

It was a wonderful trip, I can’t wait to go back, perhaps next summer.

Mind you would have been unlikely to have met Rupert Lowe as he actually lives near Cheltenham.

Taking a leaf from Mr Farage's book, despite aspiring to be his nemesis...

20 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

it's obvious why I ended up here.

Yep, not difficult to guess

7 hours ago, nexus7 said:

Doesn't seem to matter who gets in nowadays, Conservative or Labour. Once in, they just ignore their manifesto promises of 'stopping the boats' etc and just carry on the globalist agenda of open borders and mass immigration.

Maybe a more optimistic way to look at it particularly as you've chosen to live in Thailand is that you've already voted with your feet.

Thailand didn't spend decades arguing about "stopping the boats" while doing very little. When the Rohingya boat crisis arrived on its doorstep, it dealt with it in a manner that many Western democracies would regard as unacceptably harsh. The boats stopped but whether one approves of the methods is another matter entirely.

At the same time, Thailand continues to enjoy the economic benefits of large numbers of low-wage migrant workers, whether as gardeners, cleaners, construction workers, domestic staff or in countless other roles that keep the economy ticking over.So perhaps take the win. You've chosen to live in a country whose approach to immigration, borders and labour markets appears considerably closer to your own preferences than that of modern Britain. Let Britain sort out Britain's problems.

Lookup two names: Phuketwan and Major General Paween Pongsirin.

Phuketwan's journalists found themselves prosecuted after reporting allegations concerning the treatment of Rohingya migrants and the involvement of elements within the Thai authorities. They were eventually acquitted, but the prosecution itself spoke volumes.

Then there is Paween Pongsirin, the senior police investigator who led the human-trafficking investigation that uncovered mass graves and trafficking camps along the Thai-Malaysian border. His reward for following the evidence was to leave Thailand and seek asylum in Australia after claiming his investigation had reached individuals too powerful to touch.

Thailand solved the problem in its own way, under its own political system, and with methods that would never survive scrutiny in a Western liberal democracy.

Which brings us back to Britain. If you genuinely prefer Thailand's approach, congratulations you've already found the country that matches your views. Why spend your retirement getting angry about a political system and electorate you've chosen to leave behind? Britain will make its own choices, for better or worse, just as Thailand has made hers as have you.

But as I said to my nephew that was gushing about Thailand when he spent 3 months post-graduation on his SE Asian trip and how cheap it all was I said just remember there's no reverse equivalent of Thai students backpacking in Europe and that's why it cheap ...for you.

4 hours ago, JAG said:

Mind you would have been unlikely to have met Rupert Lowe as he actually lives near Cheltenham.

Taking a leaf from Mr Farage's book, despite aspiring to be his nemesis...

It's quite beautiful seeing Farage being harried by someone he previously dumped on. There is only room for one Lion King in Reform Ltd.

I suspect the party will unravel fairly quickly if the momentum starts to reverse, particularly now that it has attracted a fair number of sharp-elbowed senior Tories who jumped ship for power rather than principle.

If Farage can't break through, or if enough tactical voters continue to view him as politically toxic, two things are likely to follow. First, he won't win an election. Second, the senior cohort around him will eventually turn on him.

Farage has never shown much appetite for the trench warfare and spadework required to build and maintain a political party over the long term. What he clearly enjoys is the money, the profile, and the grandstanding that come with being the insurgent outsider. Those are very different skills from leading a disciplined movement capable of taking and holding power.

Hopefully Musk can find legal ways to bung Restore as much dosh as he can and help him out in the algo to keep up the pressure. BTW Kemi Badenoch gave him one of the Tory seats on a select committee so he can have a pulpit to preach from. Smart move !

Edited June 20Jun 20 by beautifulthailand99

20 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Maybe a more optimistic way to look at it particularly as you've chosen to live in Thailand is that you've already voted with your feet.

Thailand didn't spend decades arguing about "stopping the boats" while doing very little. When the Rohingya boat crisis arrived on its doorstep, it dealt with it in a manner that many Western democracies would regard as unacceptably harsh. The boats stopped but whether one approves of the methods is another matter entirely.

At the same time, Thailand continues to enjoy the economic benefits of large numbers of low-wage migrant workers, whether as gardeners, cleaners, construction workers, domestic staff or in countless other roles that keep the economy ticking over.So perhaps take the win. You've chosen to live in a country whose approach to immigration, borders and labour markets appears considerably closer to your own preferences than that of modern Britain. Let Britain sort out Britain's problems.

Lookup two names: Phuketwan and Major General Paween Pongsirin.

Phuketwan's journalists found themselves prosecuted after reporting allegations concerning the treatment of Rohingya migrants and the involvement of elements within the Thai authorities. They were eventually acquitted, but the prosecution itself spoke volumes.

Then there is Paween Pongsirin, the senior police investigator who led the human-trafficking investigation that uncovered mass graves and trafficking camps along the Thai-Malaysian border. His reward for following the evidence was to leave Thailand and seek asylum in Australia after claiming his investigation had reached individuals too powerful to touch.

Thailand solved the problem in its own way, under its own political system, and with methods that would never survive scrutiny in a Western liberal democracy.

Which brings us back to Britain. If you genuinely prefer Thailand's approach, congratulations you've already found the country that matches your views. Why spend your retirement getting angry about a political system and electorate you've chosen to leave behind? Britain will make its own choices, for better or worse, just as Thailand has made hers as have you.

But as I said to my nephew that was gushing about Thailand when he spent 3 months post-graduation on his SE Asian trip and how cheap it all was I said just remember there's no reverse equivalent of Thai students backpacking in Europe and that's why it cheap ...for you.

Fool. I don't live in Thailand.

21 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Yep, not difficult to guess

Ok then, go on, tell me what you know about me and why I ended up here.

16 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

Fool. I don't live in Thailand.

Well hopefully you will in the future - once Britain has fallen to the migrant hordes - get your bags packed !

32 minutes ago, nexus7 said:

Fool. I don't live in Thailand.

16 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well hopefully you will in the future - once Britain has fallen to the migrant hordes - get your bags packed !

Maybe he doesn't live in Thailand cos he could afford NOT to - or could afford to return home.

A lot of people seem to belieeve its the pinnacle but its funny how no one with really serious money chooses to live in Thailand

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

Maybe he doesn't live in Thailand cos he could afford NOT to - or could afford to return home.

A lot of people seem to belieeve its the pinnacle but its funny how no one with really serious money chooses to live in Thailand

We should all count our blessing.

Many folk can’t even afford a holiday in Thailand.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We should all count our blessing.

Many folk can’t even afford a holiday in Thailand.

Dunno about that - most people seem to have been to Tahiland at least once.
The spell remains for many since they visited in winter time when the weather in Thailand is bearable.

On 6/19/2026 at 10:14 AM, Bday Prang said:

Indeed, and whilst the miserable lefties who hate the UK and its traditions appear to have achieved a small victory here . you should make the most of it, as, going forward, there will be few more opportunities for you leftists to celebrate.

Us fascists on the extreme right are not unduly worried, this result pretty much guarantees the departure of Starmer , and who ever succeeds him be it Burnham , Streeting , Miliband or even Raynor will be dealt with by the electorate at the next general election. Just wait and see

That's if we can wait that long before we get overrun by the migrants

2 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

Maybe he doesn't live in Thailand cos he could afford NOT to - or could afford to return home.

A lot of people seem to belieeve its the pinnacle but its funny how no one with really serious money chooses to live in Thailand

Farage's £5m gift giving billionaire lives here.

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Farage's £5m gift giving billionaire lives here.

6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Farage's £5m gift giving billionaire lives here.

Dunno who that is but even if it's true the exception that proves the rule.

Thailand's sweetspot is for people who can't afford a decent house, heating bills, a girlfriend etc. in their home countries
That's why Pattaya etc is full of them.

If you had proper money there are a million better places to be - including your home country.

If your just vanilla poor, or have never had female attention, Thailand can seem a better option - at least in the short term.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Labour Government were elected on their manifesto.

Or is that something you’ve forgotten?

The Labour government was elected on anyone but the bloody Tories again. Their manifesto, unread by the majority of voters, had little to do with it. It certainly didn't say there would be mandatory leadership charisma, so I can't see why the great unwashed are so upset.

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

Dunno who that is but even if it's true the exception that proves the rule.

Thailand's sweetspot is for people who can't afford a decent house, heating bills, a girlfriend etc. in their home countries
That's why Pattaya etc is full of them.

If you had proper money there are a million better places to be - including your home country.

If your just vanilla poor, or have never had female attention, Thailand can seem a better option - at least in the short term.

I was right. We should count our blessings.

You have my sympathy.

Post deleted due to forum issues.

Edited June 20Jun 20 by JonnyF

On 6/20/2026 at 5:39 PM, NanLaew said:

The Labour government was elected on anyone but the bloody Tories again. Their manifesto, unread by the majority of voters, had little to do with it. It certainly didn't say there would be mandatory leadership charisma, so I can't see why the great unwashed are so upset.

its irrelevant whether their manifesto was read or unread or even etched into stone tablets, for public review, Until these manifestos become legally binding in some way they are totally meaningless Its notable that digital id was not mentioned for example, how might that have affected the vote ?

Am I missing something here? , people can only vote for someone on the basis of what that person says they will do for them. How can it be permissible for aspiring politicians to lie? or withhold the truth?

The end result is that nobody knows what they might be voting for these days, and as we can't believe their promises, the only thing people can do with any degree of confidence is vote on the basis of the past governments invariably poor performance, The promises of the wannabees are worthless Its not a case of who one likes its a case of who one dislikes the least , All very negative

On 6/20/2026 at 8:19 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

The Labour Government were elected on their manifesto.

Or is that something you’ve forgotten?

No they were elected as a protest against the incumbent unpopular government at the time and they have subsequently become much more unpopular They were not elected on the basis of any non-binding manifesto which people understandably didn't bother reading, why would they , it was all lies You read it though didn't you? what page was the bit about ID cards on ?

In view of the proposed restrictions to their social media access , which were not included in "the manifesto " I wonder which way the affected 16 year olds would vote now , in the event that labour reduce the age limit for voting, and indeed in the future?

14 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

its irrelevant whether their manifesto was read or unread or even etched into stone tablets, for public review, Until these manifestos become legally binding in some way they are totally meaningless Its notable that digital id was not mentioned for example, how might that have affected the vote ?

Am I missing something here? , people can only vote for someone on the basis of what that person says they will do for them. How can it be permissible for aspiring politicians to lie? or withhold the truth?

The end result is that nobody knows what they might be voting for these days, and as we can't believe their promises, the only thing people can do with any degree of confidence is vote on the basis of the past governments invariably poor performance, The promises of the wannabees are worthless Its not a case of who one likes its a case of who one dislikes the least , All very negative

Except of course those voting for Reform UK Ltd and Restore UK believe they know what they are cork voting for.

Parties not in power have the privilege of making promises that don’t get tested against the necessary wheeling and dealing that is a feature of Governmening.

Budget constraints are the best example of where ‘political deals’ are forced on a Government while not impacting parties not in power.

Regardless, manifesto commitments are absolutely significant, they are what Governments are elected on and they play an important role in the democratic process, refer ‘Salisbury Convention’.