I am losing sleep over it. The whole world eats them. Some say, it's the only culinary contribution the US has given to the rest of the world.

Has it anything to do with the German city of Hamburg? Has it anything to do with Ham? Burger? In German, the word means "citizen". (Eating citizens)?

Seeking enlightenment, I called the White House. The answer was clear: "The Hamburger was invented by Donald J. Trump".

I found this answer less than satisfactory. But never mind, what comes from the oval office is the law.

Hamberger was invented in Thailand

Probably origins unknown or disputed.

But there is a town called Hamburg in New York, US.

19 minutes ago, swissie said:

I am losing sleep over it. The whole world eats them. Some say, it's the only culinary contribution the US has given to the rest of the world.

Has it anything to do with the German city of Hamburg? Has it anything to do with Ham? Burger? In German, the word means "citizen". (Eating citizens)?

Seeking enlightenment, I called the White House. The answer was clear: "The Hamburger was invented by Donald J. Trump".

I found this answer less than satisfactory. But never mind, what comes from the oval office is the law.

And President Trump gives you a big thumbs up to your assessment, good job.

German origins of which was just a boring slab of meat. Thanks to the great American ingenuity put the slab of meat between a couple of slices of bread and it is what is commonly known today as the hamburger.

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Hamberger was invented in Thailand

This is an "eye opener". I thought that the only invention coming from Thailand was "prostitution".😄

I actually looked into this years ago.

While travelling through Germany I gained access to a little-known archive beneath Hamburg Town Hall. After several hours of research, two steins of lager, and a misunderstanding involving a hot barmaid and a bratwurst, I uncovered the truth.

The hamburger was indeed named after Hamburg, but not for the reason most people think.

In the 14th century Hamburg was plagued by a man called Klaus Burger - a long distant relative of Johannes Christian Trump, a resident of the small German village of Kallstadt - the village idiot in the village from where all the idiots from the villages missing their idiot ended up.

Every time something went catastrophically wrong, the townsfolk would throw up their hands and shout: "Ach... Burger!"

A farmer marries his cousin only to discover she's already married to another cousin? The double Burger - yes, thats another origin.

Eventually local taverns began serving a cheap pile of minced meat between two slices of bread. It was messy, questionable, and usually regretted the following morning. Naturally, they named it after Klaus.

The "ham" part was added centuries later when an English tourist overheard "Hamburg Burger" after fourteen pints and assumed it contained ham. Nobody corrected him because Germany had already spent several hundred years trying, unsuccessfully, to explain things to the British and they didn't want to get head butted.

So that explains the Whitehouse link, the claim Trump's invented is only partially accuratel

And now, according to recently declassified documents, highlighting a generational link - he [Trump] did not invent the hamburger. He merely increased its diameter by 40%, renamed it the Freedom Burger, and insisted it was the greatest burger ever created, perhaps in human history, many people are saying it.

Then America gave the world the Smashed Burger - Historians remain divided on its origins, although some believe the name was inspired by a certain New York socialite who had spent many years becoming thoroughly acquainted with regularly getting on the receiving end of a good old fashioned 'smashing' before crossing paths with any future president - initially called the Melinda Burger - initially with added layers of brisket symbolising the labia majora - the beef-curtains... later adjusted to 'bacon' for that salty taste.

Later, following a highly successful labia majoraplasty, The next leap in culinary history is said to have been have pioneered - The Malinda Cream Pie was invented. According to rumour, the event was captured on a nanny-cam and subsequently locked away in the same archive as the Epstein files.

Shortly thereafter, the Cheeseburger entered the history books.

Sadly, most of the original records have disappeared. Some say they were destroyed in a fire. Others claim they are locked in a vault somewhere between the JFK files and Hunter Biden's laptop.

Either way, the official story has been flattened, repackaged and supersized beyond recognition, which, coincidentally, is also how Americans prefer their burgers and their political discourse.

The proper one with

grilled cheese

beetroot

fried egg

caramalised onions

pineapple

BBQ sauce.

...............

Australia.

Many historians seem to disagree about the origins of who invented the hamburger. Some claim the answer lies in female anatomy. Rotate the view ninety degrees and lunch starts making a lot more sense. So perhaps the hamburger was inspired by a woman, a side profile, and a very hungry observer.

3 minutes ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Many historians seem to disagree about the origins of who invented the hamburger. Some claim the answer lies in female anatomy. Rotate the view ninety degrees and lunch starts making a lot more sense. So perhaps the hamburger was inspired by a woman, a side profile, and a very hungry observer.

I thought that was a badly packed kebab.

28 minutes ago, novacova said:

German origins of which was just a boring slab of meat. Thanks to the great American ingenuity put the slab of meat between a couple of slices of bread and it is what is commonly known today as the hamburger.

Or a Sandwich, invented well before the hamburger in 1762.

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I actually looked into this years ago.

While travelling through Germany I gained access to a little-known archive beneath Hamburg Town Hall. After several hours of research, two steins of lager, and a misunderstanding involving a hot barmaid and a bratwurst, I uncovered the truth.

The hamburger was indeed named after Hamburg, but not for the reason most people think.

In the 14th century Hamburg was plagued by a man called Klaus Burger - a long distant relative of Johannes Christian Trump, a resident of the small German village of Kallstadt - the village idiot in the village from where all the idiots from the villages missing their idiot ended up.

Every time something went catastrophically wrong, the townsfolk would throw up their hands and shout: "Ach... Burger!"

A farmer marries his cousin only to discover she's already married to another cousin? The double Burger - yes, thats another origin.

Eventually local taverns began serving a cheap pile of minced meat between two slices of bread. It was messy, questionable, and usually regretted the following morning. Naturally, they named it after Klaus.

The "ham" part was added centuries later when an English tourist overheard "Hamburg Burger" after fourteen pints and assumed it contained ham. Nobody corrected him because Germany had already spent several hundred years trying, unsuccessfully, to explain things to the British and they didn't want to get head butted.

So that explains the Whitehouse link, the claim Trump's invented is only partially accuratel

And now, according to recently declassified documents, highlighting a generational link - he [Trump] did not invent the hamburger. He merely increased its diameter by 40%, renamed it the Freedom Burger, and insisted it was the greatest burger ever created, perhaps in human history, many people are saying it.

Then America gave the world the Smashed Burger - Historians remain divided on its origins, although some believe the name was inspired by a certain New York socialite who had spent many years becoming thoroughly acquainted with regularly getting on the receiving end of a good old fashioned 'smashing' before crossing paths with any future president - initially called the Melinda Burger - initially with added layers of brisket symbolising the labia majora - the beef-curtains... later adjusted to 'bacon' for that salty taste.

Later, following a highly successful labia majoraplasty, The next leap in culinary history is said to have been have pioneered - The Malinda Cream Pie was invented. According to rumour, the event was captured on a nanny-cam and subsequently locked away in the same archive as the Epstein files.

Shortly thereafter, the Cheeseburger entered the history books.

Sadly, most of the original records have disappeared. Some say they were destroyed in a fire. Others claim they are locked in a vault somewhere between the JFK files and Hunter Biden's laptop.

Either way, the official story has been flattened, repackaged and supersized beyond recognition, which, coincidentally, is also how Americans prefer their burgers and their political discourse.

Instructive and hilarious at the same time. Very rare. Thanks.

9 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Or a Sandwich, invented well before the hamburger in 1762.

Yes, by Lord Sandwich. During a garden party, he had some meat served between 2 slices of bread. Everybody loved it. The birth of the "Sandwich". But still not something that would eventually emerge as a Hamburger.

The Pulled Pork Sandwich – first recorded in 1987 when legendary chubby chaser Tommy Tallywhacker enjoyed a romantic weekend with Mavis Jiggleflanks, fresh from industrial grade orthodontic treatment, and Brenda Bumperchops, winner of the previous years Horse and Hound Pie-Eating Invitational. What followed was described in court documents as "a mechanical misunderstanding". By sunrise, something had been pulled, something had been shredded, and the sandwich entered culinary folklore.

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

I thought that was a badly packed kebab.

Kebabs actually have a lot in common with burgers of the female variety. They’re both usually go pretty good, no matter how they might appear when you unwrap them, just as long as neither are too dry.

Here are the main contenders for who created it first:

• **Charlie Nagreen (1885): Known as "Hamburger Charlie," this 15-year-old was selling meatballs at a county fair in Seymour, Wisconsin. Realizing people wanted to eat while they walked, he flattened the meatball and stuck it between two slices of bread.

• Frank and Charles Menches (1885): These brothers ran out of pork sausage for their sandwich stand at a fair in Hamburg, New York. They substituted ground beef and named the creation after the town.

22 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Here are the main contenders for who created it first:

• **Charlie Nagreen (1885): Known as "Hamburger Charlie," this 15-year-old was selling meatballs at a county fair in Seymour, Wisconsin. Realizing people wanted to eat while they walked, he flattened the meatball and stuck it between two slices of bread.

• Frank and Charles Menches (1885): These brothers ran out of pork sausage for their sandwich stand at a fair in Hamburg, New York. They substituted ground beef and named the creation after the town.

Another installment of Raquel Google's copy and paste information service drawn directly from publicly available search results. Very helpful for the thousands of members on AN who are completely incapable of using a search engine.

Louis Lunch counter in New Haven, Connecticut. ✅

The original recipe brought over by German immigrants is so stupid it's highly believable

minced beef "Rinderhackfleisch"

flattened into a party and cooked "Frikadellen"

served on plain bread...?!

No wonder they just called it

"what people in Ham-burg eat"

Gimme a Ham-burg-er they cried 😆

9 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Louis Lunch counter in New Haven, Connecticut. ✅

The original recipe brought over by German immigrants is so stupid it's highly believable

minced beef "Rinderhackfleisch"

flattened into a party and cooked "Frikadellen"

served on plain bread...?!

No wonder they just called it

"what people in Ham-burg eat"

Gimme a Ham-burg-er they cried 😆

You are correct. The word Hamburger is originally a German word that means anyone or anything originating from Hamburg. During the nineteenth century, the city became famous for its Hamburger Rundstück, a traditional hot pork sandwich, and its high quality minced beef.

5 minutes ago, Kyoto Kyle said:

You are correct. The word Hamburger is originally a German word that means anyone or anything originating from Hamburg. During the nineteenth century, the city became famous for its Hamburger Rundstück, a traditional hot pork sandwich, and its high quality minced beef.

Germans didn't quite get the concept of a "sandwich"

It's something you can eat with your hands

The rundstück warm is a hot dish consisting of a slice of warm roast beef or pork served between the slices of a halved round wheat roll, which is then doused with hot gravy.

Americans wisely understand why pouring hot gravy over something is a stupid idea.

That's why the Hamburger was invented in America, in New Haven Connecticut, not Hamburg Germany.

In fact, you can eat Hamburgers all around the world. Nobody and I mean nobody puts hot gravy on Hamburgers.

I doubt you could do the same for "Hamburger Rundstück" so-called "sandwich" because it's such a stupid idea, Klaus. ❌

Edited June 21Jun 21 by SiSePuede419

13 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

The proper one with

grilled cheese

beetroot

fried egg

caramalised onions

pineapple

BBQ sauce.

...............

Australia.

Why would any sane person put beetroot on a burger?

I always thought is was the fella from the Popeye cartoons? Wimpey

Edited June 21Jun 21 by roo860

51 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why would any sane person put beetroot on a burger?

Because the like beetroot.

What's great about hamburgers is that there's so many different ways to put one together, and many are delicious. Not sure about beetroot but to each their own. I like Swiss, Cheddar, Plain American, and Bleu Cheese (not at the same time), Raw sweet onions or cooked. Lettuce and sliced tomato, with a tad of ketchup. Sometimes mushrooms, cooked. I've used all types of beef, Australian, Texas, or Japanese Wagyu, Chuck mixed with Sirloin usually 80/20.

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

What's great about hamburgers is that there's so many different ways to put one together, and many are delicious. Not sure about beetroot but to each their own. I like Swiss, Cheddar, Plain American, and Bleu Cheese (not at the same time), Raw sweet onions or cooked. Lettuce and sliced tomato, with a tad of ketchup. Sometimes mushrooms, cooked. I've used all types of beef, Australian, Texas, or Japanese Wagyu, Chuck mixed with Sirloin usually 80/20.

Same with pizzas. You can design your own.

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why would any sane person put beetroot on a burger?

Because it is lush.

Beetroot goes great on toast too.

16 hours ago, novacova said:

German origins of which was just a boring slab of meat. Thanks to the great American ingenuity put the slab of meat between a couple of slices of bread and it is what is commonly known today as the hamburger.

A Hamburger is made from ground/minced beef. A 'slab' of beef on bread is a steak sandwich.

The beef paaty was first eaten in Hamburg, Germany, without the bread, and then Ronald, or was it Wendy, came along, slapped it in a bun, and hey, Burger King was here.

20 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Some claim the answer lies in female anatomy

Always heard the term "taco" for that 😜

8 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Why would any sane person put beetroot on a burger?

Australia @brewsterbudgen , Australia...

Hakkebuf was cooked in in Denmark in 15th century as patties of beef with salt, pepper dill and other spice and sailors took the recipe to Hamburg where it spread around Germany and german immigrants took it to the USA