7 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Some foreigners who relocate here get lonely, they find dogs heal their insecurities.

I'm lucky, got a big family and close friends here.

Maybe lucky to have close friends, but the big family is not so lucky. I've done the big-family life and am glad to see the back of it. Now it's only her father and sister, who works full time, and no kids.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

they don't look like golden retrievers or poodles.

that's all i need to know.

Well, that's what I would like to know. What breed are they?

6 hours ago, wil iam not said:

What do you mean by 'if any' when assessing the breed of the six, visible dogs?

They could be soi dogs or mongrels.

13 hours ago, Point Arguello said:

Today this guy is bringing along 6 big dogs along S. Jomtien beach. Public endangerment. Maybe 2or 3 at most but what the is this about?? If authority is permitting this outrage then surely shotguns should be also allowed.

They'lll be relieving themselves on the beach no doubt too. Hope he's bought his doggy plastic bags to clear the mess up.

I've seen a foreign guy bring his dog on a BTS bridge, no collar rope, just letting the big mongrel run around.

Can't stand them.

14 hours ago, Point Arguello said:

Most foreigners in their right mind have better options around here

I'd say the guy walking his dogs would prefer to be with his dogs all year round than a once of Christmas event.

6 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Maybe lucky to have close friends, but the big family is not so lucky. I've done the big-family life and am glad to see the back of it. Now it's only her father and sister, who works full time, and no kids.

Sorry to hear, sounds like you got the short straw in life.

I'm the luckiest guy on the planet.

5 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Well, that's what I would like to know. What breed are they?

They don't look like any kind of sophisticated breed.

Breed is a strong word.

They look like mutts.

But there is too much emphasis on the dog.

The emphasis should be "what kind of psychological issues compels someone to walk around with a small army of mutts?"

47 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

They don't look like any kind of sophisticated breed.

Breed is a strong word.

They look like mutts.

But there is too much emphasis on the dog.

The emphasis should be "what kind of psychological issues compels someone to walk around with a small army of mutts?"

Right . This and that pos

that threw acid on that poor girl. High time immigration cleans house around here. Round them up , revoke visas and send them back to bum ---- Egypt.

6 minutes ago, Point Arguello said:

Right . This and that pos

that threw acid on that poor girl. High time immigration cleans house around here. Round them up , revoke visas and send them back to bum ---- Egypt.

It's never going to happen.

You don't know who is a criminal until it's too late.

You can round them up, but the damage is done.

I rest my case. It can be done when puplic safety is valued more than some lowlifes civil rights ^^

Edited June 26Jun 26 by Point Arguello

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'd say the guy walking his dogs would prefer to be with his dogs all year round than a once of Christmas event.

Ain't talking bout xxxmas

14 hours ago, wil iam not said:

What do you mean by 'if any' when assessing the breed of the six, visible dogs?

Heinz breed or mutt.

24 minutes ago, Point Arguello said:

hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'd say the guy walking his dogs would prefer to be with his dogs all year round than a once of Christmas event.

Ain't talking bout xxxmas

The photo you posted is a Christmas event.

So, what are you talking about then?

1 hour ago, Point Arguello said:

I rest my case. It can be done when puplic safety is valued more than some lowlifes civil rights ^^

Yeah, but the girl is dead.

It's not like they will ever keep out all criminals.

I don't understand the Thai mentality. There are many who put masks on to avoid disease but think nothing of allowing any/every soi to be fouled by dogs. The fact that this owner is a farang clearly shows he's been in Thailand too long. This can happen; I am guilty of driving the Thai way after 20+ years on Thai roads. It's a matter of dog eat dog. (Pun intended.)

20 hours ago, Point Arguello said:

Today this guy is bringing along 6 big dogs along S. Jomtien beach. Public endangerment. Maybe 2or 3 at most but what the is this about?? If authority is permitting this outrage then surely shotguns should be also allowed.

That could be a picture of most beaches in Thailand, and the dog belong to no one.

How do you know they are his dogs?

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Heinz breed or mutt.

They Look like bitzas to me..

Even Stevie Wonder could see who they belonged to. Watched from way down beach. And I don't care if these dogs belong to the man in the moon. They are the problem**. So im done here replying to all these irellavant diversions/strawmans. ** As of course also this guy and his sh*tload of dogs

Edited June 27Jun 27 by Point Arguello

16 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The only problem with that is there are millions of loose dogs in Thailand, most of them without real owners, and the ones who are owned, also tend to run free. The government's job is to protect it's citizens, and the spay/neuter program that's available here works, but it needs to be increased tenfold all over the country, and paid for by the government. It's the only humane way to reduce the population.

Putting leash laws into action would help, but without microchips there's no way to tell who owns them. Like my subdivision did when we were incorporated into the city, animals weren't allowed to roam anymore, and it helped quite a bit, even including many cats.

"The only problem with that is there are millions of loose dogs in Thailand, most of them without real owners, and the ones who are owned, also tend to run free."
Actually most farang who don't socialize closely with the Thai community really don't have a clue. Speaking as something who lives in a Thai village in Northern Thailand, there are millions of loose dogs in Thailand, most of them have real owners who let them run and virtual every Thai in your normal village are perfectly Ok with that. People like me who keep all of their dogs (I've had upwards of 10) behind a fence, although not a rarity, are a minority.

"Putting leash laws into action would help, but without microchips there's no way to tell who owns them."

They might actually pass laws in big cities requiring leashes and microchips as the "leaders" of those communities tend to love to be viewed as Westernized, but reality is that leashes and keeping dogs fenced would be unenforceable and requiring microchips would be an economic hardship on most rural Thais and again unenforceable. What farangs who think this is a solution don't understand is how thin policing is in you average rural Thai community, and if police are available, farangs don't grasp what the priorities of those police are. I can tell you what their priorities are not, and that is engaging in the petty nanny-state type of enforcement that so many farangs seem to love so much. One of my reasons for leaving the West was to get away from the Nanny-state. I can deal with dogs running free, and in my neighborhood I can tell you who the dogs belong to and which dogs are truly feral as most of the dogs I own were Buddhist temple drop-offs or the pups of actual feral bitches.

If Thailand really wanted to address its dog problem they would put significant funds behind making free spay & neuter clinic available in every Tambon and Moobaan. But in Thailand today, if your Moobaan has a yearly rabids vaccination drive then they are way ahead of the curve. It is not a priority to the Thai government.

Thai dog culture is part of Thai society. Most Western Farangs can't grasp that especially if they choose not to tightly integrate into Thai society. So they get on their favorite Farang Forum and howl at the moon about "Thailand’s Dog Problem. 🌙 🐕 <hong hong hong>

6 minutes ago, connda said:

"The only problem with that is there are millions of loose dogs in Thailand, most of them without real owners, and the ones who are owned, also tend to run free."
Actually most farang who don't socialize closely with the Thai community really don't have a clue. Speaking as something who lives in a Thai village in Northern Thailand, there are millions of loose dogs in Thailand, most of them have real owners who let them run and virtual every Thai in your normal village are perfectly Ok with that. People like me who keep all of their dogs (I've had upwards of 10) behind a fence, although not a rarity, are a minority.

"Putting leash laws into action would help, but without microchips there's no way to tell who owns them."

They might actually pass laws in big cities requiring leashes and microchips as the "leaders" of those communities tend to love to be viewed as Westernized, but reality is that leashes and keeping dogs fenced would be unenforceable and requiring microchips would be an economic hardship on most rural Thais and again unenforceable. What farangs who think this is a solution don't understand is how thin policing is in you average rural Thai community, and if police are available, farangs don't grasp what the priorities of those police are. I can tell you what their priorities are not, and that is engaging in the petty nanny-state type of enforcement that so many farangs seem to love so much. One of my reasons for leaving the West was to get away from the Nanny-state. I can deal with dogs running free, and in my neighborhood I can tell you who the dogs belong to and which dogs are truly feral as most of the dogs I own were Buddhist temple drop-offs or the pups of actual feral bitches.

If Thailand really wanted to address its dog problem they would put significant funds behind making free spay & neuter clinic available in every Tambon and Moobaan. But in Thailand today, if your Moobaan has a yearly rabids vaccination drive then they are way ahead of the curve. It is not a priority to the Thai government.

Thai dog culture is part of Thai society. Most Western Farangs can't grasp that especially if they choose not to tightly integrate into Thai society. So they get on their favorite Farang Forum and howl at the moon about "Thailand’s Dog Problem. 🌙 🐕 <hong hong hong>

I've taken over at least 12 dogs, some of which have been poisoned by some weirdo, because they weren't being fed, or pet, by their "owners". I live in a village also, and see loose dogs everywhere, many of which are the temple dogs and some just roam. Yes, some are "owned" by people, who feed them when they come around, but it's nowhere near like what happens in the west, where your dogs come back every day, even those in the country where roaming is allowed. No dogs here are kept behind a fence, although some do stay close to their yards.

If the government actually cared about their citizens, they would pay for that spay/neuter program. If this happened, there wouldn't be so many dogs roaming around making puppies, which would help the citizens also. Enforcement of laws is lax here and therein lies the problem. Yes, Thais don't have much spare money, so their dogs should be neutered and spayed so they aren't as much of a problem. Dogs here aren't loved like they are in the west. They love the puppies and take them in, but rarely fix them, get them shots, or even care for them once they're adult dogs, hence the roaming. Responsibility does cost money, so if you don't have the money, don't have as many dogs, or get them fixed.

I've been here over 8 years and knew of this problem long before I moved here. It's the same as with the children, who are shuffled off to grandma over 40% of the time, ride on top of school buses, sit three on a scooter passing policemen , under aged, with no helmets. Taking selfies with the kids then they're pushed aside, much like the dogs, as they get older. The girls here are looked at as inferior, second class, and hoped they'll become men in reincarnation. That's the thinking.

If you're going to own a pet, take care of it, or don't have them. Dogs and cats here are poisoned by the thousands because many hate having them around. I see them kicked all the time, because they are "in the way". There are countless dogs at village schools who live there, with no owners. My daughter's school has at least 7, and one had puppies, which will make it 11 at that school looking for handouts and causing problems wandering looking for food in the village. Hopefully not biting any children, as dogs that aren't trained, or fixed, are aggressive animals. This is a problem that the government should be spending money on, instead of wasting it on projects that aren't helping the citizens directly.

I like dogs, and take care and feed 6 here that aren't really mine, exactly for those reasons.

Edited June 27Jun 27 by fredwiggy

Thais like having a dog protecting their property but not the responsibility that comes with owning a dog.

Responsibilities include feeding it, taking care of it's health and preventing it from biting the public.

Leaving it outside while treating it sometimes works well security-wise and exonerates them of the above..........

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, some are "owned" by people, who feed them when they come around, but it's nowhere near like what happens in the west, where your dogs come back every day, even those in the country where roaming is allowed. No dogs here are kept behind a fence, although some do stay close to their yards.

If you insist. But dogs are territorial. Most of those "dogs running free" have a limited range which centers at their owners house and spreads outwards until it intersects with another dog's territory. That holds except when some bitch goes into heat, then dogs go wherever their is hot pussy. The other exception to that rule is when the temple's dogs follow the monks on alms rounds. When I was a monk, we'd have upwards of 7 or more of the temple's dogs following us in the morning. We could manage all of the minor dog-vs-dog dust-ups we encountered.
In our village, I'd estimate that perhaps 2%+ keep their dogs fenced. I do. My neighbor to the South fence theirs. My neighbor to the North does not. Many of my wife's friends fence their dogs. It's for two reasons: it keeps the dogs safe from getting hit by a car, and their primary job is to protect the house. My dogs take care of security against humans and critters like cobras, or any other things we need to be alerted to (toads, lizards, preying mantis, etc).
And if villagers want to let their dogs roam? I'm fine with it. I can get along with the vast majority of the dogs I come across while walking. I have in the past come across rare aggressive dogs. I can handle those too, and given time, befriend them.

Here's my take on the difference between you and I.
You - you like the Nanny-State and you want the police and government to take care of all the things you don't like, such as dogs roaming.
Me - I can't stand the Nanny-State and I want the police and government bureaucracy to mind their own business and I'll mind my own business.

Of course some farang is going to say, "I bet you want the police around if someone invades your home!"
My thoughts on that: "Just like in the West, when seconds count, the police are minutes away. Here in Thailand more like 20 or 30 minutes.

26 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

If the government actually cared about their citizens, they would pay for that spay/neuter program. If this happened, there wouldn't be so many dogs roaming around making puppies, which would help the citizens also.

Here we agree 100%. The government could actually solve dog over-population with a cost-effective spay/neuter program if they put one in place. But? After living here almost 20 years, I know that ain't ever going to happen - unfortunately. However, our Tambon has both a rabies vaccination program and about once a year they will spay/neuter dogs and cats that belong to the local temples. I wish they would expand that program to include villagers. It would take care of a pet over-population social problem.

But back to this:

I see a guy walking on a beach and some dogs walking on the beach. I don't assume that the guy owns the dogs.

6 minutes ago, connda said:

If you insist. But dogs are territorial. Most of those "dogs running free" have a limited range which centers at their owners house and spreads outwards until it intersects with another dog's territory. That holds except when some bitch goes into heat, then dogs go wherever their is hot pussy. The other exception to that rule is when the temple's dogs follow the monks on alms rounds. When I was a monk, we'd have upwards of 7 or more of the temple's dogs following us in the morning. We could manage all of the minor dog-vs-dog dust-ups we encountered.
In our village, I'd estimate that perhaps 2%+ keep their dogs fenced. I do. My neighbor to the South fence theirs. My neighbor to the North does not. Many of my wife's friends fence their dogs. It's for two reasons: it keeps the dogs safe from getting hit by a car, and their primary job is to protect the house. My dogs take care of security against humans and critters like cobras, or any other things we need to be alerted to (toads, lizards, preying mantis, etc).
And if villagers want to let their dogs roam? I'm fine with it. I can get along with the vast majority of the dogs I come across while walking. I have in the past come across rare aggressive dogs. I can handle those too, and given time, befriend them.

Here's my take on the difference between you and I.
You - you like the Nanny-State and you want the police and government to take care of all the things you don't like, such as dogs roaming.
Me - I can't stand the Nanny-State and I want the police and government bureaucracy to mind their own business and I'll mind my own business.

Of course some farang is going to say, "I bet you want the police around if someone invades your home!"
My thoughts on that: "Just like in the West, when seconds count, the police are minutes away. Here in Thailand more like 20 or 30 minutes.

Here we agree 100%. The government could actually solve dog over-population with a cost-effective spay/neuter program if they put one in place. But? After living here almost 20 years, I know that ain't ever going to happen - unfortunately. However, our Tambon has both a rabies vaccination program and about once a year they will spay/neuter dogs and cats that belong to the local temples. I wish they would expand that program to include villagers. It would take care of a pet over-population social problem.

Yes, it's all about the over population of the dogs, who the locals haven't the funds for to fix.

I live in the country now, and they really don't bother me too much besides the barking and female chasing, which is fights and a danger to humans who come close.

We'll be moving back to the country area of Texas soon enough, where dogs allowed to roam are shot to protect other animals, so people try and curb their dogs. Subdivisions don't allow roaming, which is a good idea. Dogs kept close and fixed are healthier and live longer.

When I walk my daughter to school here, about a kilo each way, my dogs, 4 to 6, walk with us right to the school as I can't keep them at the house. They encounter many other dogs and some fights occur, although short lived with me around.

I really don't want police around, and neither does anyone else here, as there aren't many problems besides teens driving fast and those dog poisoners, but it would help the whole country if the government did what it could to lower the dog population.

On 6/26/2026 at 1:17 PM, Point Arguello said:

Today this guy is bringing along 6 big dogs along S. Jomtien beach. Public endangerment. Maybe 2or 3 at most but what the is this about?? If authority is permitting this outrage then surely shotguns should be also allowed.

The solution to every problem - guns! Killing!

Edited June 27Jun 27 by JAG

Some falangs in Thailand are a plague as their bring in their addictions, and mainly their ego issues with them here.

22 hours ago, wil iam not said:

And those which kill their owners, children or neighbours before they have been trained?

Dogs that have harmed or killed their owners are almost always animals that have been badly treated by those same owners. Chained up, caged up, beaten and generally not cared for.

Not socialized as the term goes. And that same theme has shown up time and again in the cases that have been reported on this forum.

You do not have to train a dog not to be aggressive. You simply treat it with lots of TLC and it will treat you in a like manner.

5 hours ago, connda said:

But back to this:

I see a guy walking on a beach and some dogs walking on the beach. I don't assume that the guy owns the dogs.

That was my first thought. Not unusual to see a few dogs on a beach. Not unusual to see people walking on a beach.

It is unusual, to the point of paranoia, to link the two based on a blurry photo.

Is there any evidence, such as a leash or voice commands, to support the view that he is the owner?

Seems to be another lame attempt at Thai bashing.

If you want western standards go to a western country to live.

To suggest that Thailand should adopt your standards is ludicrous.

Do you support 'refugees' trying to change your home country's culture?

37 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Is there any evidence, such as a leash or voice commands, to support the view that he is the owner?

I never heard any voice commands in the still photo. 5-5-5

I'm trying to figure out what brought most of the men (?) who commented in this thread to Pattaya in the first place. Most of us came to get away from the hand wringers and pearl clutchers who are ever seeking to restrict the lives of others in order to feel safe. Thank God you're as powerless here as you feel, lest you ruin things for the rest of us. Blow your ra pe whistles and carry pepper spray in your man purses laddies.