As my other topic about a girl and her phone began shifting more toward a topic of gym culture and fitness, I thought I’d share these thoughts on personal positivity.

This guy on the link below is nearly 60 years old, and he’s jacked. He’s not huge, but because he’s built a solid amount of very lean muscle, it helps make him appear even bigger than he actually is. Sure, he’s probably had a little help from Vitamin T, but that’s not his secret. The secret is far less thrilling and it's mainly about consistency, above all else. He’s now enjoying the rewards of years of discipline and sacrifice. There are no shortcuts, no magic, and nobody handed him a free ride. He’s earned every bit of it through hard work, but the truth is that the same is achievable for everyone.

I follow multiple people like him online who are in exceptional shape into their 50s, 60s, and even 70s because watching their success inspires me. If we want to live strong, healthy lives with good functional strength, these are the people we should be paying attention to. Don’t focus on the other 98 percent of people in those age groups who are out of shape. If all you ever look at are people making poor choices, you’ll unconsciously normalize those choices. But if you constantly expose yourself to people who are winning the game, you’re far more likely to adopt their habits and move closer to their results instead of ending up like the other 98 percent.

And I don’t just mean fitness. Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there. You’ll be surprised how much your own results quickly improve when you stop paying attention to average and start focusing on excellence. It’s a simple formula, and it’s a shame more people simply don’t follow it.

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Edited June 29Jun 29 by 123Stodg

8 minutes ago, 123Stodg said:

He’s now enjoying the rewards of years of discipline and sacrifice. There are no shortcuts, no magic, and nobody handed him a free ride

What rewards does he get? He looks like a roid rat.

11 minutes ago, 123Stodg said:

Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there. You’ll be surprised how much your own results quickly improve when you stop paying attention to average and start focusing on excellence

All dreamy stuff. We can't all win the US Masters. Better to enjoy life than copy roid rats or guys who run 200km. I read the book of David Goggins but all he does is exercise. What a boring life.

1 hour ago, 123Stodg said:

As my other topic about a girl and her phone began shifting more toward a topic of gym culture and fitness, I thought I’d share these thoughts on personal positivity.

This guy on the link below is nearly 60 years old, and he’s jacked. He’s not huge, but because he’s built a solid amount of very lean muscle, it helps make him appear even bigger than he actually is. Sure, he’s probably had a little help from Vitamin T, but that’s not his secret. The secret is far less thrilling and it's mainly about consistency, above all else. He’s now enjoying the rewards of years of discipline and sacrifice. There are no shortcuts, no magic, and nobody handed him a free ride. He’s earned every bit of it through hard work, but the truth is that the same is achievable for everyone.

I follow multiple people like him online who are in exceptional shape into their 50s, 60s, and even 70s because watching their success inspires me. If we want to live strong, healthy lives with good functional strength, these are the people we should be paying attention to. Don’t focus on the other 98 percent of people in those age groups who are out of shape. If all you ever look at are people making poor choices, you’ll unconsciously normalize those choices. But if you constantly expose yourself to people who are winning the game, you’re far more likely to adopt their habits and move closer to their results instead of ending up like the other 98 percent.

And I don’t just mean fitness. Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there. You’ll be surprised how much your own results quickly improve when you stop paying attention to average and start focusing on excellence. It’s a simple formula, and it’s a shame more people simply don’t follow it.

"That's actually a better question than most people realize, because 'game' isn't something you can measure in percentages or levels. Enough game is simply having enough confidence, awareness, and social intelligence to create opportunities without pretending to be someone you're not. The internet tends to portray game as some mystical ability where you can talk anyone into liking you. Reality is much less dramatic.

A guy with too little game struggles to start conversations, reads every interaction as life or death, and often comes across as nervous because he's trying so hard not to fail. A guy with too much 'game'—or at least what people think is game—often ends up sounding rehearsed. Every conversation becomes a performance. Every compliment is calculated. Every joke is strategic. Ironically, people usually sense that. Authenticity is a lot harder to fake than confidence.

The sweet spot is when you don't need every interaction to end in success. You can flirt without forcing it. You can handle rejection without taking it personally. You know when someone is interested and when they're not, and you don't try to negotiate attraction. The funny thing is, people who actually have game rarely talk about having game. They aren't constantly looking for the perfect line because they understand the line isn't what matters. It's the comfort behind it. Two people can say the exact same sentence, and one comes off charming while the other comes off awkward. The difference isn't the words—it's whether the person saying them believes they belong in the conversation.

So how much game is enough? Enough that you don't need tricks anymore. Enough that you're comfortable being yourself, willing to take a chance, able to accept a 'no,' and confident enough to move on without your ego getting bruised. Beyond that, you're no longer improving your game—you're just polishing your personality.

At the end of the day, game doesn't create attraction out of thin air. It simply allows attraction, when it's already possible, to develop naturally. That's all it was ever supposed to do."

1 hour ago, 123Stodg said:

As my other topic about a girl and her phone began shifting more toward a topic of gym culture and fitness, I thought I’d share these thoughts on personal positivity.

This guy on the link below is nearly 60 years old, and he’s jacked. He’s not huge, but because he’s built a solid amount of very lean muscle, it helps make him appear even bigger than he actually is. Sure, he’s probably had a little help from Vitamin T, but that’s not his secret. The secret is far less thrilling and it's mainly about consistency, above all else. He’s now enjoying the rewards of years of discipline and sacrifice. There are no shortcuts, no magic, and nobody handed him a free ride. He’s earned every bit of it through hard work, but the truth is that the same is achievable for everyone.

I follow multiple people like him online who are in exceptional shape into their 50s, 60s, and even 70s because watching their success inspires me. If we want to live strong, healthy lives with good functional strength, these are the people we should be paying attention to. Don’t focus on the other 98 percent of people in those age groups who are out of shape. If all you ever look at are people making poor choices, you’ll unconsciously normalize those choices. But if you constantly expose yourself to people who are winning the game, you’re far more likely to adopt their habits and move closer to their results instead of ending up like the other 98 percent.

And I don’t just mean fitness. Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there. You’ll be surprised how much your own results quickly improve when you stop paying attention to average and start focusing on excellence. It’s a simple formula, and it’s a shame more people simply don’t follow it.

Roids and looks unhealthy. I wonder if he could even run 1 mile?

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

Roids and looks unhealthy. I wonder if he could even run 1 mile?

Honestly, he could probably easily run a few miles.

He was muscular before, just overweight, then he lost about 20 kg over a two year period. Before he lost the weight, I don’t think many people would have assumed he was using steroids. He basically got himself down to about 8.5% body fat. If you weight train consistently and get that lean, that’s how you can look. It isn’t all about drugs.

He’s probably doing a bit of hormone replacement therapy because of his age, meaning a small amount of testosterone each week to keep his levels in the low normal range rather than below it. A lot of men his age do the same and look completely normal, like they don’t even weight train. So it isn’t the testosterone replacement that makes him look like that, it’s the years of weight training combined with getting very lean.

At his age, a lot of people’s natural testosterone has already dropped below normal. That’s the mistake a lot of people make when they don’t understand this side of things. They see someone who’s lean and hard and immediately assume they’re on large amounts of steroids.

The reality is he’s too old to be running high doses of steroids. The risks, especially things like heart attacks, high blood pressure, and an enlarged prostate, become much higher at that age. I’d be surprised if his testosterone levels, even with the small amount he’s probably taking, were much above the low end of the normal range rather than at supraphysiological levels. My own testosterone is naturally at the high end of the normal range and is probably higher than that of many people who are taking low dose testosterone replacement therapy.

He also doesn’t look like that when he gets out of bed in the morning. The photos he posts on social media are after an hour of hard training, once he’s got a pump. If you saw him walking down the street, he’d probably just look like a fairly normal guy and you wouldn’t immediately think he was on steroids. He only weighs 75 kg. When he was 95 kg, he looked nothing like that.

That’s why I say that when you lose weight, you often end up looking bigger rather than smaller if you’re weight training, because the muscle becomes much more visible.

I know this stuff because I’ve been around gyms for years and I’ve seen plenty of transformations like his. A lot of them involved no drugs at all. People who haven’t seen what can be achieved naturally through getting lean while training consistently often underestimate what’s possible.

What impresses me most about him, and other guys like him, isn’t even the physique. It’s the consistency. They have the discipline, even at that age, to stick to the same routine day after day with their eating, sleeping, and training. That’s 95% of the game, and 95% of people simply don’t have that level of discipline.

5 minutes ago, 123Stodg said:

Honestly, he could probably easily run a few miles.

Running is about cardio fitness.

3 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

What rewards does he get? He looks like a roid rat.

Exactly.

These fake influencers are encouraging people to take steroids, and possibly a bunch of peptides which are not even approved by the FDA. And also to overtrain in the gym and injure themselves.

Ronaldo has a body physique that people should aspire to -- lean and toned. You don't need massive muscles anyway, since it doesn't improve lifespan. Bodybuilding is mostly vanity.

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4 minutes ago, TedG said:

Running is about cardio fitness.

Yes, that's true. I agree. But I don't do regular cardio fitness training and I could still run a few miles at an average pace at any given moment myself. So the consistent weight training does also help to maintain a certain level of overall fitness that would still allow you to run a few miles, but obviously not a marathon.

Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there.

Utter hogwash..........how many people do this and fail?....about 999,999 out of a million.

It is not about copying and studying.......it's about about being in the right place, at the right time, with the "right' idea.

I'm not wealthy, but I do know three millionaires....and they all made it due to pure, unadulterated luck.

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

These fake influencers are encouraging people to take steroids, and possibly a bunch of peptides which are not even approved by the FDA.

As I explained in my post above, his testosterone levels are probably no different from yours, assuming your levels are still within the normal range. What makes him look the way he does is everything else, especially his training and diet.

There are plenty of people who are not using steroids but look like they are once they get their body fat to under 10%, just as there are plenty of people who use steroids but do not look like they do because their body fat percentage is much higher. It ultimately comes down to consistent training and nutrition. The drugs are secondary. People who have never lived that lifestyle day in and day out often do not realize how much those factors matter.

8 minutes ago, 123Stodg said:

There are plenty of people who are not using steroids but look like they are once they get their body fat to under 10%, just as there are plenty of people who use steroids but do not look like they do because their body fat percentage is much higher. It ultimately comes down to consistent training and nutrition.

That guy looks like he's on steroids.

Or there's all sorts of peptides on the market these days.

Expecting everyone to be a bodybuilder is not feasible. Nor is it necessary to have huge muscles. It will not prolong your lifespan.

And the risk of injury trying to get huge muscles after 50 is high. I've met a bunch of guys in the gym with bad injuries.

This is a body type people should aspire to. He is lean and toned and athletic, can run -- and you don't need heavy lifting in a gym.

But you do need consistency and being very strict with diet -- which is hard.

(uploading the pic is very slow -- look up Ronaldo)

16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That guy looks like he's on steroids.

Or there's all sorts of peptides on the market these days.

Expecting everyone to be a bodybuilder is not feasible. Nor is it necessary to have huge muscles. It will not prolong your lifespan.

And the risk of injury trying to get huge muscles after 50 is high. I've met a bunch of guys in the gym with bad injuries.

This is a body type people should aspire to. He is lean and toned and athletic, can run -- and you don't need heavy lifting in a gym.

But you do need consistency and being very strict with diet -- which is hard.

(uploading the pic is very slow -- look up Ronaldo)

This guy that I used as an example looks that way because his body fat percentage is around 8.5 percent. That’s not because of drugs. It’s the result of years of disciplined training and diet.

Whether you want big muscles or not is a matter of personal preference. Whether you think a certain physique looks good is also subjective. There is no right or wrong. If you prefer one person’s physique over another’s, that’s perfectly fine. Different people have different goals.

You are right about the risk of injury though. It’s a very real risk, especially after the age of 40. I’ve had plenty of injuries myself, so I know what it’s like. Ironically, I have far fewer aches and injuries now than I did when I was younger because I’ve learned how to train smarter. A lot of injuries at any age can be prevented with just 10 minutes of proper warm up and mobility work before lifting weights, but many people underestimate how important that is.

Ronaldo is an elite athlete, and he looks like one. However, many people can achieve an athletic looking physique without having his level of athletic ability through consistent training, diet, and discipline. To be honest, he probably takes some performance enhancing drugs as well, but he doesn't look like it because he doesn't focus on bodybuilding and weight training.

1 hour ago, 123Stodg said:

Honestly, he could probably easily run a few miles.

He was muscular before, just overweight, then he lost about 20 kg over a two year period. Before he lost the weight, I don’t think many people would have assumed he was using steroids. He basically got himself down to about 8.5% body fat. If you weight train consistently and get that lean, that’s how you can look. It isn’t all about drugs.

He’s probably doing a bit of hormone replacement therapy because of his age, meaning a small amount of testosterone each week to keep his levels in the low normal range rather than below it. A lot of men his age do the same and look completely normal, like they don’t even weight train. So it isn’t the testosterone replacement that makes him look like that, it’s the years of weight training combined with getting very lean.

At his age, a lot of people’s natural testosterone has already dropped below normal. That’s the mistake a lot of people make when they don’t understand this side of things. They see someone who’s lean and hard and immediately assume they’re on large amounts of steroids.

The reality is he’s too old to be running high doses of steroids. The risks, especially things like heart attacks, high blood pressure, and an enlarged prostate, become much higher at that age. I’d be surprised if his testosterone levels, even with the small amount he’s probably taking, were much above the low end of the normal range rather than at supraphysiological levels. My own testosterone is naturally at the high end of the normal range and is probably higher than that of many people who are taking low dose testosterone replacement therapy.

He also doesn’t look like that when he gets out of bed in the morning. The photos he posts on social media are after an hour of hard training, once he’s got a pump. If you saw him walking down the street, he’d probably just look like a fairly normal guy and you wouldn’t immediately think he was on steroids. He only weighs 75 kg. When he was 95 kg, he looked nothing like that.

That’s why I say that when you lose weight, you often end up looking bigger rather than smaller if you’re weight training, because the muscle becomes much more visible.

I know this stuff because I’ve been around gyms for years and I’ve seen plenty of transformations like his. A lot of them involved no drugs at all. People who haven’t seen what can be achieved naturally through getting lean while training consistently often underestimate what’s possible.

What impresses me most about him, and other guys like him, isn’t even the physique. It’s the consistency. They have the discipline, even at that age, to stick to the same routine day after day with their eating, sleeping, and training. That’s 95% of the game, and 95% of people simply don’t have that level of discipline.

I get your perspective but I think he looks awful on the video and that is what I based my opinion on. Just because testosterone supplementation is dangerous as you suggested, doesn't stop his type. IMO, he is doing more than testosterone and is not healthy. Wish we could look at his blood work, insulin numbers and blood pressure. I do think many people find his look attractive for what that is worth :)

50 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

That guy looks like he's on steroids.

Or there's all sorts of peptides on the market these days.

Expecting everyone to be a bodybuilder is not feasible. Nor is it necessary to have huge muscles. It will not prolong your lifespan.

And the risk of injury trying to get huge muscles after 50 is high. I've met a bunch of guys in the gym with bad injuries.

This is a body type people should aspire to. He is lean and toned and athletic, can run -- and you don't need heavy lifting in a gym.

But you do need consistency and being very strict with diet -- which is hard.

(uploading the pic is very slow -- look up Ronaldo)

He is :) Not 100% sure but 99.9%. Dropping huge weight while pumping topterone into your system and countless of hard lifting sessions creates that exact build. He chose to sacrifice his health to get that look. Might be worth it?

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I get your perspective but I think he looks awful on the video and that is what I based my opinion on. Just because testosterone supplementation is dangerous as you suggested, doesn't stop his type. IMO, he is doing more than testosterone and is not healthy. Wish we could look at his blood work, insulin numbers and blood pressure. I do think many people find his look attractive for what that is worth :)

All fair points. Personally, I admire him more for his focus and discipline at his age than for his aesthetic. It's so much easier to just sit on the couch and do nothing than to get up every morning and maintain the same consistency. And if he were 25 years younger with the same level of physicality and a little less vascularity, you might find him more visually appealing.

Anyway, I have no idea what drugs he’s on, nor do I think it’s particularly important. For me, it’s more about the outcome than the means. And if he’s happy with how he looks, then that’s ultimately what matters.

As for the health side of things, I don’t think it’s possible to draw many conclusions simply because he’s extremely lean and vascular. His blood pressure and hormone levels could all be perfectly normal, and considering he lost around 20 kg of body fat, he’s probably in much better health now than he was two years ago when he looked like a bulky, overweight guy. So I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on judging his health based solely on his appearance. Plenty of people look healthy but aren’t, and vice versa.

The main point is his hard work and discipline. His ability to commit to a routine, set a goal, and achieve it deserves credit.

As for his overall look, yes, plenty of people probably like that aesthetic, while many others don’t. It ultimately comes down to personal preference. What I can say is that he appears to have a good level of functional strength and still maintains excellent mobility. Those are qualities that all of us should aspire to at any age, regardless of appearance.

1 hour ago, MIke B Bad said:

I'm not wealthy, but I do know three millionaires....and they all made it due to pure, unadulterated luck.

Saving and investing for 40 years is not pure luck.

9 hours ago, 123Stodg said:

As my other topic about a girl and her phone began shifting more toward a topic of gym culture and fitness, I thought I’d share these thoughts on personal positivity.

This guy on the link below is nearly 60 years old, and he’s jacked. He’s not huge, but because he’s built a solid amount of very lean muscle, it helps make him appear even bigger than he actually is. Sure, he’s probably had a little help from Vitamin T, but that’s not his secret. The secret is far less thrilling and it's mainly about consistency, above all else. He’s now enjoying the rewards of years of discipline and sacrifice. There are no shortcuts, no magic, and nobody handed him a free ride. He’s earned every bit of it through hard work, but the truth is that the same is achievable for everyone.

I follow multiple people like him online who are in exceptional shape into their 50s, 60s, and even 70s because watching their success inspires me. If we want to live strong, healthy lives with good functional strength, these are the people we should be paying attention to. Don’t focus on the other 98 percent of people in those age groups who are out of shape. If all you ever look at are people making poor choices, you’ll unconsciously normalize those choices. But if you constantly expose yourself to people who are winning the game, you’re far more likely to adopt their habits and move closer to their results instead of ending up like the other 98 percent.

And I don’t just mean fitness. Whatever you want to achieve in life, spend your time studying people who have already achieved the goals you’re chasing. Watch what they do, learn how they think, and model the habits that got them there. You’ll be surprised how much your own results quickly improve when you stop paying attention to average and start focusing on excellence. It’s a simple formula, and it’s a shame more people simply don’t follow it.

He is on a bit more than just vitamin T.

5 hours ago, 123Stodg said:

This guy that I used as an example looks that way because his body fat percentage is around 8.5 percent. That’s not because of drugs. It’s the result of years of disciplined training and diet.

But to what end, though? He could be perfectly healthy with 15% body fat and 100 times less time and effort. So what is he doing it for? Probably for personal reasons and if he is happy, then great, but is he an example to follow? No. I wouldn't want to look like that, and I certainly don't want to spend hundreds of hours at the gym, I have much better things to do with my time and energy.

20 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

But to what end, though? He could be perfectly healthy with 15% body fat and 100 times less time and effort. So what is he doing it for? Probably for personal reasons and if he is happy, then great, but is he an example to follow? No. I wouldn't want to look like that, and I certainly don't want to spend hundreds of hours at the gym, I have much better things to do with my time and energy.

10 hours a week in in the gym is great for any man + some physical work. Healthy diet and lifestyle in general.

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

10 hours a week in in the gym is great for any man + some physical work. Healthy diet and lifestyle in general.

Sleep enough, drink enough water, eat reasonably well (no need to be too excessive/restrictive), avoid stress first and foremost. A couple of hours of exercise per week is just fine.
(This works for me and I appreciate it may differ for others).

10 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

What rewards does he get? He looks like a roid rat.

Of course you’re jealous of him Susie as you are a 25 stone gal who looks like she was born with a beer bottle in her hand, and we all know that’s never going to change.

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Exactly.

These fake influencers are encouraging people to take steroids, and possibly a bunch of peptides which are not even approved by the FDA. And also to overtrain in the gym and injure themselves.

Ronaldo has a body physique that people should aspire to -- lean and toned. You don't need massive muscles anyway, since it doesn't improve lifespan. Bodybuilding is mostly vanity.

Imagine spending 6 days a week in a gym on roids, eating 5% carbs, no beer.

Where is the fun in that? Waste of time.

40 minutes ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Of course you’re jealous of him Susie as you are a 25 stone gal who looks like she was born with a beer bottle in her hand, and we all know that’s never going to change.

I exercise 5 to 6 days a week but not all gym. I'd say you are gay. Your obsession with a name on computer is very strange. No wonder you have never been married and don't have a girlfriend. A total weirdo.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

Sleep enough, drink enough water, eat reasonably well (no need to be too excessive/restrictive), avoid stress first and foremost. A couple of hours of exercise per week is just fine.
(This works for me and I appreciate it may differ for others).

Studies have found 2,3,4 physical activities bring more happiness than 1. Movement is movement. Gardening can be great exercise.

All you really need is a big d.

7 hours ago, 123Stodg said:

Personally, I admire him more for his focus and discipline at his age than for his aesthetic.

I admire Buddy Guy and Clint Eastwood. Perfected their craft. Brought joy to the world.

Patts would have a 500 roid boys. None of them bring joy to the world and most women don't like the roid look.

10 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Sleep enough, drink enough water, eat reasonably well (no need to be too excessive/restrictive), avoid stress first and foremost. A couple of hours of exercise per week is just fine.
(This works for me and I appreciate it may differ for others).

Enough exercise during the week is essential for your mental health, physical health, and not least your gut health, which depends on movement. All of this together helps your happy hormones and body chemistry, builds discipline, and for some also gives goals to stretch for, creating more positive and happy days wherever you are.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Enough exercise during the week is essential for your mental health, physical health, and not least your gut health, which depends on movement. All of this together helps your happy hormones and body chemistry, builds discipline, and for some also gives goals to stretch for, creating more positive and happy days wherever you are.

No argument from me there, but we are all built differently and if you are in tune with yourself, you know whether or not you are doing well. Whether that takes 1 or 10 hours on an exercise contraption (combined with various other factors) depends on the individual, which is why I am always wary of those who preach what works for them as if it were some universal rule.

11 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

most women don't like the roid look.

Indeed, and they don't like men who behave like women, constantly posing for the cameras and acting narcissistic.