Dear Folks,

Even though I am very old, yet still…

Sometimes, and not infrequently, I notice, or “feel”,  that younger women are “coming on” to me.

But, how can I be sure?

Are there any “sure” ways to tell?

I am the bashful type.

And, most Thai girls are bashful, too.

Sometimes, and very often, their overtures are just too subtle for words.

And so, I would not want to mistake “come on” signals for other signals, such as….

Some girl’s vague curiosity about why my fly has been left undone, and not fully zippered up.

I realize that most of the guys on TV are older than I, and so I am asking for advice.

More specifically, my question is how do old men know when young women are giving them “the eye”...???....

I mean, that…Come Hither Look….

During my younger years, just because I was worried about getting my signals crossed, I lost many good opportunities, and slept alone, as a result.

But now that I am very old, I worry that I might repeat the mistakes of my youth, and never sleep with anyone, ever again.

What I mean is that:  Sometimes, you just get the feeling that girls are looking at you, in the right way. And, you suspect that they might want to go to bed with you, too.

Crucially, in my case, I’m just asking:  How do you tell?  How can you be sure?

How can you be very sure BEFORE you open your mouth, or rest your hand on hers, and then quickly learn that you had made a total fool of yourself…just because…

You got your signals crossed.

And she is rolling on the floor with a mixture of laughter and disgust.

Any words of advice, or…

What is your technique?

How do you know, for sure?

Thank you.

Gamma

NOTE: My apologies, because I have no images, vids, nor music to accompany this Topic. This Topic puts me in a sort of somber mood, in fact.

NOTE2: Yet, this Topic reminds me, just a little bit, of the great film.....BABY DOLL.....

Baby Dolls....

Who would not want one....or two.....?

I have NOTHING against women who suck their thumbs.....

Do you?

Baby Doll.....!!!!

Just one of several good links: https://vk.com/video-68583631_456247875

Karl Malden is AMAZING.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited July 3Jul 3 by GammaGlobulin

By the time you finish explaining the question, she’s married someone else.

The biggest problem is thinking you made a fool of yourself when getting brushed off by a bashful female.

I say, hit on 10 or 20 girlies in a club for instance and it's bound to work out with one or two. Same in a non hooker bar.. People are far to self conscious and worried on the image they will project to others. That is your worst ennemy.

Go by the numbers pal, Hit and chat up shamelessly one girl at a time no matter how dull your conversation may be or not be.

If she brushes you away or makes you feel she is not interested or you don't feel confortable, politely turn your back and shamelessly hit on another one and so on. It will work out fine. How do you know she is not interested ? Simple, she just won't laugh or giggle at our stupid jokes.

This is a universal technique as girls remain girls all over the world.

The biggest concern however in Thailand that even in "normal" bars if any, you have strong chances to fall on a freelancer.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by Sigmund

We need to ensure that there are no avoidable Question-Mark emoji attached to this Topic.

And so, for clarification of the MEANING of this Topic, and, FOR SURE, there IS a meaning here, to this Topic....

Please refer to the following analysis, so that there is no ambiguity:

Analysis of Topic Discourse: Aging, Isolation, and Social Risk

1. Core Mechanism: The Demand for Zero Risk

The primary driver of the text is the author's search for a guaranteed method to measure romantic interest. The author aims to eliminate the risk of public embarrassment entirely before initiating contact. Evidence: The author repeatedly asks how to be "very sure BEFORE you open your mouth." He documents a history of inaction ("lost many good opportunities") caused by the fear of misinterpreting signals, such as confusing a stare directed at an unzipped garment with a romantic "Come Hither Look."

2. Complicating Factors: Age Disparity and Cultural Barriers

The author's advanced age and cross-cultural environment severely degrade his ability to read social cues accurately. Evidence: The author explicitly states he is "very old" and is attempting to decipher the behavior of "younger women" in Thailand. He classifies the local demographic as inherently "bashful." This combination creates a communication environment where baseline cultural politeness is easily confused with active romantic overtures.

3. Coping Mechanisms: Media Projection

The author utilizes familiar cultural artifacts to normalize his desires and manage his emotional discomfort regarding his isolation. Evidence: The postscript heavily references the 1956 film Baby Doll, a movie centered on age-disparate attraction. The author uses this reference to validate his feelings and artificially elevate the "somber mood" induced by his current reality.

4. Peer Review: Rejection of the Zero-Risk Model

The forum respondents wholly dismiss the author's core premise. They establish that guaranteed certainty is impossible and advocate for action-oriented, risk-tolerant methodologies.

• Nemises (Time Limitation Strategy): Time spent analyzing signals results in missed opportunities. The physical window for action closes while the mental analysis occurs.

• Sigmund (Statistical Volume Strategy): Rejection is an inevitable variable and must be accepted. The functional solution is high-volume, trial-and-error interaction ("hit on 10 or 20 girlies"). Sigmund correctly identifies the author's self-consciousness, rather than the women's subtlety, as the actual barrier to operational success.

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Gemini seems to say that I am unable to read cross-cultural cues.

But, this is only true for cultures which I DO NOT PREFER.....

What about you?

Have you watched this great film, Baby Doll?

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Concerning me, I guess Gemini nailed it here:

The author utilizes familiar cultural artifacts to normalize his desires and manage his emotional discomfort regarding his isolation. Evidence: The postscript heavily references the 1956 film Baby Doll, a movie centered on age-disparate attraction. The author uses this reference to validate his feelings and artificially elevate the "somber mood" induced by his current reality.

Sometimes, one just cannot hide from an AI......apparently....

Edited July 3Jul 3 by GammaGlobulin

3 hours ago, Sigmund said:

The biggest problem is thinking you made a fool of yourself when getting brushed off by a bashful female.

I say, hit on 10 or 20 girlies in a club for instance and it's bound to work out with one or two. Same in a non hooker bar.. People are far to self conscious and worried on the image they will project to others. That is your worst ennemy.

Go by the numbers pal, Hit and chat up shamelessly one girl at a time no matter how dull your conversation may be or not be.

If she brushes you away or makes you feel she is not interested or you don't feel confortable, politely turn your back and shamelessly hit on another one and so on. It will work out fine. How do you know she is not interested ? Simple, she just won't laugh or giggle at our stupid jokes.

This is a universal technique as girls remain girls all over the world.

The biggest concern however in Thailand that even in "normal" bars if any, you have strong chances to fall on a freelancer.

Pretty much what a good friend did back when I lived in New Jersey. Very obnoxious man, but outgoing and would ask girls out all day long. Most wouldn't bother talking to him, let alone accept a date, but by the numbers he got dates, and a couple would sleep with him. No fear whatsoever talking as he knew by percentages he would win.

I'm of course referring to situations in the west, and not in bars. Here, finding a woman to sleep with, along with the websites they didn't have back then, has the percentages higher in your favor, with a large majority here looking for someone with possible future money. Finding a woman other than a bar girl, freelancer or loose, you'll have to dig deeper into the culture and wait longer.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by fredwiggy

If one hasn't figured that out before age 20, then that explains P4P for so many.

I experienced this situation when teaching in Laos and Myanmar, both rather conservative countries. At the end of the school day I would perhaps be alone in an empty classroom, all the students and other local teachers having left to go home. But unexplainably, a very pretty, young, local female teacher would suddenly appear in the classroom.... smiling at me and asking if I needed anything!

I'm sure it was a subtle come-on, but more fool me for not recognising the signs at the time :)

7 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I experienced this situation when teaching in Laos and Myanmar, both rather conservative countries. At the end of the school day I would perhaps be alone in an empty classroom, all the students and other local teachers having left to go home. But unexplainably, a very pretty, young, local female teacher would suddenly appear in the classroom.... smiling at me and asking if I needed anything!

I'm sure it was a subtle come-on, but more fool me for not recognising the signs at the time :)

Just kiss her@

6 minutes ago, simon43 said:

I experienced this situation when teaching in Laos and Myanmar, both rather conservative countries. At the end of the school day I would perhaps be alone in an empty classroom, all the students and other local teachers having left to go home. But unexplainably, a very pretty, young, local female teacher would suddenly appear in the classroom.... smiling at me and asking if I needed anything!

I'm sure it was a subtle come-on, but more fool me for not recognising the signs at the time :)

If only you had had a few traditional chalkboard erasers which needed clapping....

She might have helped you out.

And then, you could have clapped them together.

You have gotten to "know" each other.

Still, maybe its a good thing.....

If you had had the erasers, there is no telling if someone might have come down with the clap.....

Just saying.

just ask her how much

Gamma , I think it's called dreaming ....

regards worgeordie

Give it a try.

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

If one hasn't figured that out before age 20, then that explains P4P for so many.

Different here (in Asia), I always found they will initiate a conversation, and then start touching me.

Next step back to my room (or a ST hotel) to bang 'em.

Which never really worked in the west.

Same deal with sex workers or respectable virgins.

I never approach women.

Edited July 4Jul 4 by BritManToo

I guess it's partly intuitive and partly just the physical aspect of the whole thing. As far as dating Thai women and approaching strangers it is very easy. If you have some game, if you have a great sense of humor, and are able to make them laugh and feel relaxed, if you are decent looking, and dress decently, and are well groomed, it can be quite easy here.

Generally, Thai woman are very comfortable with their femininity, with flirting, and open to talking with someone who approaches them, very unlike women in the West, these days. Of course, it also depends on who you pursue. If you are going after wealthy women, who are wearing $3,500 outfits, you will likely get turned down. Either that or you're in for some very deep expenses!

If you are in your 30's, Thailand is your oyster. Even older men can have all kinds of soccess here. There are hundreds of thousands of good looking, younger Thai women who are open to being with a foreigner, as long as he is financially stable. 98% of women want that stability. You simply need to be very assertive, have some game, hopefully have a minimal amount of bling, and a great sense of humor. If you can get them to laugh within a few moments of striking up a conversation with them, you are on your way. I would look within greater Pattaya, Bangkok, and even small towns. Gals who work in hotels, restaurants, retail stores, etc. Stay away from the beach areas, and you will be fine finding a real civilian.

Step up to the plate often, and just approach as many strangers are you can. Make a sport of it.

6 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Geriatrically Speaking: How do you know when a girl “comes on” to you?

When she says yes.

27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Different here (in Asia), I always found they will initiate a conversation, and then start touching me.

Next step back to my room (or a ST hotel) to bang 'em.

Which never really worked in the west.

Same deal with sex workers or respectable virgins.

I never approach women.

If I'm out on the prowl (venue serves alcohol) or just knocking around town, pretty easy to tell if I initiate, or position myself so she can, initiate a conversation, once past 'hello', pretty easy to tell if she's 'like minded', and on the prowl herself, or open to some smiles.

If not, nice to have a chit chat with a stranger, or be ignored right away, so not to waste either's time.

How do you know when a girl “comes on” to you?

She opens her handbag and flashes

a large bottle of Listerine cool mint to you.

At our ages, "younger women" is a a relative term. But usually it's a lock after she assures you that it's "฿1500 long-time, anything goes." I tend to stay away from the hotties with deep voices tho'.

6 minutes ago, rocketboy2 said:

She opens her handbag and flashes

a large bottle of Listerine cool mint to you.

...and a bag of condoms and some generic "knock-off" Tadalafil.

I always like the gals in Olongapo's PI approach.

"My name is Suzie ****job,
I give you ****job,
You be my boyfriend."

Sure sign she is "coming on to you."

8 hours ago, Sigmund said:

This is a universal technique as girls remain girls all over the world.

And since girls remain girls all over the world, when they go to the restroom, they freely discuss with other girls the guy who relentlessly hits on them and every other girl in the club.

"Who him?"

"Yeah, that creep."

1 hour ago, novacova said:

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Geriatrically Speaking: How do you know when a girl “comes on” to you?

When she says yes.

Personally, I have found that when she's licking your tonsils, that's a good sign.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Geriatrically Speaking: How do you know when a girl “comes on” to you?

But, how can I be sure?

You've come to the right place, ask our many knowledgeable members.

Most here are constantly having, beautiful, young woman coming on to them.

Just ask them, it's the guy sat in a soi Buakhou bar, these guys are the sexiest. 😂

Edited July 4Jul 4 by SAFETY FIRST

47 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You've come to the right place, ask our many knowledgeable members.

Most here are constantly having, beautiful, young woman coming on to them.

Just ask them, it's the guy sat in a soi Buakhou bar, these guys are the sexiest. 😂

That's not entirely true,

Thai relationships are a total poop show, nearly all my wifes pals (mid 40s) are single moms, completely broke and fishing around for their kids Government schools fees (5kbht x2 a year). No need to go in a bar to find them.

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You've come to the right place, ask our many knowledgeable members.

Most here are constantly having, beautiful, young woman coming on to them.

Just ask them, it's the guy sat in a soi Buakhou bar, these guys are the sexiest. 😂

I maybe in my 60s but can easily pass for 45. The ladies adore me.

I read in a book — long time ago — that when a man passes the 40-years age limit, he converts to 'the payment class'...

A benefit in Thailand is, when reaching the age level and older, that if you look like you can be an excellent provider — and I'm not talking about flashing 1,000-baht notes in a go-go- or ladybar — you increase the interest from young females looking for a 'a good man'. There seems to be numerous of women, and many of them also seems to be quite attractive.

What might increase the interest — so, you're looking like both driving Mercedes-class or higher and having savings enough — is how you dress, how proper and respectable you look, and your attitude of being a polite gentleman. Rich people often dress casual — but with style — and don't need to flash brands and money; they already have all that stuff. Also, a smile might make a huge difference.

So, OP @GammaGlobulin , dress right, behave and get out in the more hi-so levelled places — there you might have a huge chance of meeting females interested in 'good men' over 40 — however, be aware out there, it's also the hunting field for gold diggers...

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

I maybe in my 60s but can easily pass for 45. The ladies adore me.

Wow, That's exactly what Georgie boy told me 👌

20 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

That's not entirely true,

Thai relationships are a total poop show, nearly all my wifes pals (mid 40s) are single moms, completely broke and fishing around for their kids Government schools fees (5kbht x2 a year). No need to go in a bar to find them.

I can't disagree with what you said, I know a few like that

Edited July 4Jul 4 by SAFETY FIRST

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Wow, That's exactly what Georgie boy told me 👌

He's quite dashing as well.

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

He's quite dashing as well.

That's what he said also 😂

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Personally, I have found that when she's licking your tonsils, that's a good sign.

When did you ever find that she licked my tonsils?

10 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

Even though I am very old, yet still…

Sometimes, and not infrequently, I notice, or “feel”,  that younger women are “coming on” to me.

But, how can I be sure?

Are there any “sure” ways to tell?

I am the bashful type.

And, most Thai girls are bashful, too.

Sometimes, and very often, their overtures are just too subtle for words.

And so, I would not want to mistake “come on” signals for other signals, such as….

Some girl’s vague curiosity about why my fly has been left undone, and not fully zippered up.

I realize that most of the guys on TV are older than I, and so I am asking for advice.

More specifically, my question is how do old men know when young women are giving them “the eye”...???....

I mean, that…Come Hither Look….

During my younger years, just because I was worried about getting my signals crossed, I lost many good opportunities, and slept alone, as a result.

But now that I am very old, I worry that I might repeat the mistakes of my youth, and never sleep with anyone, ever again.

What I mean is that:  Sometimes, you just get the feeling that girls are looking at you, in the right way. And, you suspect that they might want to go to bed with you, too.

Crucially, in my case, I’m just asking:  How do you tell?  How can you be sure?

How can you be very sure BEFORE you open your mouth, or rest your hand on hers, and then quickly learn that you had made a total fool of yourself…just because…

You got your signals crossed.

And she is rolling on the floor with a mixture of laughter and disgust.

Any words of advice, or…

What is your technique?

How do you know, for sure?

Thank you.

Gamma

NOTE: My apologies, because I have no images, vids, nor music to accompany this Topic. This Topic puts me in a sort of somber mood, in fact.

NOTE2: Yet, this Topic reminds me, just a little bit, of the great film.....BABY DOLL.....

Baby Dolls....

Who would not want one....or two.....?

I have NOTHING against women who suck their thumbs.....

Do you?

Baby Doll.....!!!!

Just one of several good links: https://vk.com/video-68583631_456247875

Karl Malden is AMAZING.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You could try Trump's technique. But no means no!