Just now, Summerinsiam said:

If he didn't want Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon then he should not have ripped up the Obama- era agreement, which was working, and which he did out of pure jealousy and spite. Netanyahu was saying in the early 1990s that they were weeks away ftom getting the bomb. He has been trying to get the US involved in this for decades. The 'stable' genius is the only one who has fallen for the scam.

The JCPOA was working for Iran, yes. It released billions of dollars to them, it lifted sanctions, and it allowed them to continue developing their intercontinental ballistic missile and nuclear programs. To say otherwise is to lie.

It was nice of Obama to let Iran have a CIA military drone in 2011 to help them and China with their military drone programs.

Why would Trump be jealous of Obama?

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Pentagon maintains a evolving portfolio of war plans. Pentagon has also briefed House and Senate that Iran pose no imminent threat to US. The Pentagon Iran war plan has a problem of divergence by Trump's instinct to attack Iran.

The Press is reporting the obvious incompetence and failures of the war progress. The same kind of reporting in failed past wars like Iraq and Vietnam. You just have prejudice against the Press and not the failures of Trump.

Trump poorly anticipated that it will be a short war with regime change and little impact of the economy. He mis-calculated big time and the economic catastrophe is on his watch and hands.

What is the obvious incompetence and what are the failures you are referring to?

Apparently, the US sank seven of Iran's navy vessels after Iran attacked the UAE and fired on a US ships.

Note the press calling them "small boats", when a week ago they were calling them the "half of the navy" that had not been destroyed.

Live Updates: U.S. sinks 7 small Iranian boats as Iran launches attacks on UAE and ships in Strait of Hormuz

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Apparently, the US sank seven of Iran's navy vessels after Iran attacked the UAE and fired on a US ships.

Note the press calling them "small boats", when a week ago they were calling them the "half of the navy" that had not been destroyed.

Live Updates: U.S. sinks 7 small Iranian boats as Iran launches attacks on UAE and ships in Strait of Hormuz

Come on Yellowtail you know exactly how big these fast patrol boats are you have seen enough of them on here.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

What is the obvious incompetence and what are the failures you are referring to?

All there in my post. This fish doesn’t bite.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Apparently, the US sank seven of Iran's navy vessels after Iran attacked the UAE and fired on a US ships.

Note the press calling them "small boats", when a week ago they were calling them the "half of the navy" that had not been destroyed.

Live Updates: U.S. sinks 7 small Iranian boats as Iran launches attacks on UAE and ships in Strait of Hormuz

Not the press, Sunshine but Trump in Truth Social.

Just now, Eric Loh said:

All there in my post. This fish doesn’t bite.

What was in your post was just regurgitated anti-Trump talking points, there was no evidence or examples.

But that's all you have, I get it.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Come on Yellowtail you know exactly how big these fast patrol boats are you have seen enough of them on here.

I know what they are, I was only pointing out hypocrisy of the press. The US destroyed ~200 ship, but 200 patrol boats were left, so they called it half the navy.

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Not the press, Sunshine but Trump in Truth Social.

The press said half the navy remained, when virtually every Iranian war ship was destroyed.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

The press said half the navy remained, when virtually every Iranian war ship was destroyed.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the same as the press. Don’t you ever check before posting inaccurate assertion?

If they have destroyed the Iranian navy why don't the American destroyers simply sail straight through the straits and release the trapped shipping. What are they frightened of as they keep bragging there the biggest and the best in the World.

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the same as the press. Don’t you ever check before posting inaccurate assertion?

Did you have a quote? No? I thought not.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

If they have destroyed the Iranian navy why don't the American destroyers simply sail straight through the straits and release the trapped shipping. What are they frightened of as they keep bragging there the biggest and the best in the World.

Because they have no sail boats?

Your dodging the questions Yellowtail tell us why American Warships are not sailing down the straits.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Did you have a quote? No? I thought not.

I was right about you not vetting what you post. You can’t be taken seriously. You just a troll.

As for Marco quote, go check March 26 cabinet meeting.

Just now, Emdog said:

Don't know if you cooked that up or stumbled on it, but totally love "Schrödinger's Strait".. it's both a war and peace, but won't know til the box is popped open

well known meme.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Your dodging the questions Yellowtail tell us why American Warships are not sailing down the straits.

Iran has small boats, mines and missiles. two

Per CBS (the link above) two USN destroyers went through the strait, as did two commercial vessels. yesterday.

Maersk confirmed their ship made it through.

But yes, the American left, Europe and much of the world want this to be a failure for Trump, and a victory for Iran.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Iran has small boats, mines and missiles. two

Per CBS (the link above) two USN destroyers went through the strait, as did two commercial vessels. yesterday.

Maersk confirmed their ship made it through.

But yes, the American left, Europe and much of the world want this to be a failure for Trump, and a victory for Iran.

So you think now the USA is at war with most of the world? Except your non-terrorist buddies in North Korea.

No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it.

-Clausewitz

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Per CBS (the link above) two USN destroyers went through the strait, as did two commercial vessels. yesterday.

Not only one, but two! Wow! 😃

Just now, Roadsternut said:

So you think now the USA is at war with most of the world? Except your non-terrorist buddies in North Korea.

No, I don't think that, why would you think that?

Is it any wonder Iran doesn't want to sit down with the Yanks and discuss ceasefire deals when Trump comes out with his latest Statement " We will blow Iran's face off the face of the Earth if any American ships are Attacked ".

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Is it any wonder Iran doesn't want to sit down with the Yanks and discuss ceasefire deals when Trump comes out with his latest Statement " We will blow Iran's face off the face of the Earth if any American ships are Attacked ".

While Iran does not want to meet, why do you assume they do not want to talk? Did they not just send a "new" 14-point peace proposal?

Iran is losing $400M a day in lost revenue, and they do not control the strait, and they just lost (per CBS) seven more navy vessels, yet per the media, Iran has the US on the ropes.

All the Democrats care about is the midterms,

Why can't you take it in that you don't talk to someone that threatens you. Is there realy any point trying to have a thread with you if you den'y anything and wont listen to basic facts, and just blame posters that don't subscribe to your beliefs that Trump is a wonderfull leader. If the Iranians wanted to dicuss ceasefire talks last time in Pakistan why or should i say what was the reason no Iranian delegates wanted to talk to the UK delegation, give us the real reason for the postponent and don't blame Iran.

Fine but the mess and humiliation in Afghanistan, not to mention the others, that were handled by the Dems...was there any plan ?

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Why can't you take it in that you don't talk to someone that threatens you. Is there realy any point trying to have a thread with you if you den'y anything and wont listen to basic facts, and just blame posters that don't subscribe to your beliefs that Trump is a wonderfull leader. If the Iranians wanted to dicuss ceasefire talks last time in Pakistan why or should i say what was the reason no Iranian delegates wanted to talk to the UK delegation, give us the real reason for the postponent and don't blame Iran.

What am I denying, I said they refused to meet, yes?

But clearly, they are communicating, yes?

Iran submitted a new peace proposal, yes?

Iran is demanding the strait be opened to resume talks, after which they will delay and delay and delay. Opening the strait (that all the Trump-haters said Iran controls) prior to a solid agreement (not another JCPOA) would be a huge mistake.

And why do you have to go to the "I think Trump can do no wrong" nonsense? Trump does plenty wrong, and I hate the rhetoric he spews, and I will he would STFU. He's like a cat and on a laser pointer.

Just now, Sigmund said:

Fine but the mess and humiliation in Afghanistan, not to mention the others, that were handled by the Dems...was there any plan ?

Ask W what the plan was as he "initiated" it.

President George W. Bush initiated the invasion of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, launching Operation Enduring Freedom. Following the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. and coalition forces targeted Al-Qaeda and the ruling Taliban regime that was harboring Osama bin Laden, beginning the 20-year war

Just now, pomchop said:

Ask W what the plan was as he "initiated" it.

President George W. Bush initiated the invasion of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, launching Operation Enduring Freedom. Following the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. and coalition forces targeted Al-Qaeda and the ruling Taliban regime that was harboring Osama bin Laden, beginning the 20-year war

And Afghanistan was largely a success until the shameful withdrawal.

17 hours ago, Sigmund said:

Fine but the mess and humiliation in Afghanistan, not to mention the others, that were handled by the Dems...was there any plan ?

whats this got to do with this thread, the world wasn't in a financial crisis with food and oil loss or fuel problems this idiots left us with now.