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Iran Closes Strait of Hormuz, Blames US and Israel

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4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Iran will monetise the SoH but legally. Oman will probably be part of it.

I don't think they will. They're just putting cards on the table for the Geneva negotiations.

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8 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Iran will monetise the SoH but legally. Oman will probably be part of it.

What ever happens to the SoH it is a big mess going to cost a lot of money !! and price rise all thanks to one man !!

15 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't think they will. They're just putting cards on the table for the Geneva negotiations.

I think the USA will take the view the Iranians can charge for legal services rendered.

Those services will be mandatory.

When the tail wags the dog it's time to cut the tail off.

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

And where do you get lobbying from ?? giving money to congress members and others is not lobbying its called corruption !

Give it a rest will you?

2 minutes ago, Front Row said:

Give it a rest will you?

Off topic post the topic is " Iran Closes Strait of Hormuz, Blames US and Israel" not each other

15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Change the word Iran to Israel and we’re in agreement.

Deal was Israel would withdraw from Lebanon, America has not honored it’s commitments in the agreement.

It's always the Jews fault for your ilk.

I'm not interested in your antisemitism.

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's always the Jews fault for your ilk.

I'm not interested in your antisemitism.

In this instance it its Israels Fault! They should have withdrawn from Lebanon as per the MoU And the word is ISRAEL NOT JEWS ISRAEL should honor the agreement, there is No antisemitism in honoring an agreement

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

In this instance it its Israels Fault! They should have withdrawn from Lebanon as per the MoU And the word is ISRAEL NOT JEWS ISRAEL should honor the agreement, there is No antisemitism in honoring an agreement

Sounds like someone saying he doesn't hate blacks he just hates Africans.

We know what you mean.

well latest from CNN Vance, says he is making progress, but Trump Has threatened the delegation that they will not go back to Iran, if they dont make a Deal, he will resume bombing and the US will take over the SoH, and charge a toll of 20% of the oil, this is some deal making !!!!

Trump has just lost it now he is saying in an interview the Iran delegation wont have a counrty to go back to if they dont open the SoH

11 hours ago, Front Row said:

I merely stated a fact. I made no judgement about AIPAC. Trump wouldn’t be able to go against their lobbying power.

He has and he will. AIPAC is not the powerful entity it is made out to be. What it is good at is the building of alliances between groups that might otherwise disagree with each other. It can bring them together in common cause to take on local district candidates. AIPAC is punching well above its weight and encourages the image of its clout because it suits its purpose. However, it has far less influence than many assume it does.

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10 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He has and he will. AIPAC is not the powerful entity it is made out to be. What it is good at is the building of alliances between groups that might otherwise disagree with each other. It can bring them together in common cause to take on local district candidates. AIPAC is punching well above its weight and encourages the image of its clout because it suits its purpose. However, it has far less influence than many assume it does.

AIPAC and the other similar groups are just "legalized corruption"

13 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

AIPAC and the other similar groups are just "legalized corruption"

And there are millions of contributors and supporters of PACS who disagree with you. Two of the largest are Democrat Party and "Progressive" Pacs. I support campaign financing contribution caps. As long as there are no caps and limits, the potential for abuse will remain for all political interests. Sen. John McCain tried to implement these reforms. he was blocked by multiple interests.

Another really big global humiliation for America and their military hardware industry that is totally helpless against the swarms of cheap homemade drones and willy know how from the iranian regime.

3 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And there are millions of contributors and supporters of PACS who disagree with you. Two of the largest are Democrat Party and "Progressive" Pacs. I support campaign financing contribution caps. As long as there are no caps and limits, the potential for abuse will remain for all political interests. Sen. John McCain tried to implement these reforms. he was blocked by multiple interests.

The Citizens United decision by SCOTUS didn't help with the "legal" bribery that corrupts the legislative process. It just made the corruption much, much worse.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And there are millions of contributors and supporters of PACS who disagree with you. Two of the largest are Democrat Party and "Progressive" Pacs. I support campaign financing contribution caps. As long as there are no caps and limits, the potential for abuse will remain for all political interests. Sen. John McCain tried to implement these reforms. he was blocked by multiple interests.

You maybe right about millions of contributors and supporters, But it is "corruption" which is Offering, giving, or receiving something of value (money, gifts, or services) to influence an official's or decision-maker's actions, And you are correct it should be caps and limits and without it the whole government is open to corruption

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