6 hours ago, Briggsy said:

It is unwise to equate money with class.

Totally agree, poor often stands out. Andrew learned that lesson.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This looks like Vichy water.....

It appears to move when you're not looking.

7 minutes ago, IsaanT said:

Strictly, no, but there are plenty of us who have paid for our properties to be built and now enjoy no monthly outgoings for accommodation (rent or mortgage).

basically there is little difference, purchasing requires paying an initial lump sum, for something that is not yours, whilst renting simply spreads the payments, its similar to a mortgage but obviously just like buying or building , you never own the property either,

4 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Last thing you need in these parts is for a Benidormy type to move in next door.

Heart goes out to tHE fRENCH guy.

🤣🤣🤣 excellent, you got the Benidorm bit in🤡

6 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

The top 4 crime hot spots for farangs are Phuket, Pattaya, Bangkok and KPN.

Where is KPN?

12 minutes ago, loong said:

Where is KPN?

Koh Pha Ngan. Island near Samui.

6 hours ago, PJ71 said:

Yes, i agree.

It often makes me laugh why mixed kids automatically go to intl schools as well, just coz they're mixed does not make them intelligent, which many seem to think.

Of course it doesn't,quite the opposite in fact I mean if it were true, the elite in the UK would abandon their favoured hallowed halls of education, and would be queuing up to send their spoilt offspring to inner city comprehensives to get the "benefit" of diversity

One side of the story.

I have personally come across many elderly drama queens that do nothing but complain about every thing and anything.

His complaints may be true but he may also be a fickle old gentleman that wants silence all day every day.

Who or what is "Pimjai" and who is the "influential" figure referred to in the OP ?

We only have a very small part of one side of the story, I wouldn't be too quick to judge

Even 85 yr old blokes are not always innocent helpless victims, and there is no smoke without fire

If what is written in the OP is true and is the full story then this should have been easily sorted out by the police a long time ago so I reckon there is a good reason or two why it has not been,

2 minutes ago, WHansen said:

One side of the story.

I have personally come across many elderly drama queens that do nothing but complain about every thing and anything.

His complaints may be true but he may also be a fickle old gentleman that wants silence all day every day.

there have been several reality tv series "my neighbour from hell" many of the worst offenders are stupid old men

Although, the article label, Pattaya, this isn't like it is in town in the tourist area!

This is Nong Pla Lai way outside of beach road, walking street, Soi Buakhao, where we general read this type of stuff.

This is the problem with some of these gated community or not where houses are build too close neighbors are butted right up against each other Thai developers do not set up even when they do not enforced governing rules so that owners and renter have the enjoyment of what they pay to get.

Then you got a 85 year old man and once again being rough shot by people who should really know better but at same time got to be more to the relationship even Brits know better LOL.

This type of behavior loud music usually are associated with Thai locals but even I've not seen bottles being throw to others people houses by Thai.

6 hours ago, BKKBike09 said:

I also think the Brit deserves a bottle throwing prize for being able to throw bottles and have them land upright and not break

No real Brit would drink that kind of pretentious wine, It hasn't even got a screw top how would one stop it going flat?

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This looks like Vichy water.....

Don't those photos look staged and that looks like the same bottle! I would be so impressed if I saw a drunk throw a bottle and land on a single flat stone in the middle of a garden, bounce over the house and land perfectly on the road outside without a single crack or chip! What a viral video that would make!!!!! Or maybe it's simply a grumpy old man who will be complaining about birds making a noise in the trees and poo ing in his garden just to any him, next week.....

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This looks like Vichy water.....

its rainwater its been raining

10 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Although, the article label, Pattaya, this isn't like it is in town in the tourist area!

This is Nong Pla Lai way outside of beach road, walking street, Soi Buakhao, where we general read this type of stuff.

This is the problem with some of these gated community or not where houses are build too close neighbors are butted right up against each other Thai developers do not set up even when they do not enforced governing rules so that owners and renter have the enjoyment of what they pay to get.

Then you got a 85 year old man and once again being rough shot by people who should really know better but at same time got to be more to the relationship even Brits know better LOL.

This type of behavior loud music usually are associated with Thai locals but even I've not seen bottles being throw to others people houses by Thai.

there was an influential figure mentioned in the OP I can not imagine him being anything other than Thai more to this than meets the eye

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

no, it's not hilarious actually.

poor choice of words.

this is the problem when you own property. if you rent, it's much easier to eff off if you have a crazy neighbor. he has no choice but to move far away now.

how have you arrived at the conclusion he needs to move? you have have heard half of one side of a story with no suggestion as to how it ended if it even has ended?

More and more often I see people posting and suggesting visa cancelation / deportation / black listing as the "solution" Be careful what you wish for, because once this becomes the accepted "no charges, no trial' method it will be impossible to get that genie back in the bottle. (And guess who will be first in line and screaming at the top of their lungs then???) I completely support arrest, trial, THEN consequences, but not this cry for "vigilante justice" we see so often on this site. Do you really want a system (supported by foreigners) that allows anyone with a bone to pick, to dial up the police and get you tossed out of Thailand??

1 minute ago, JustinTyme said:

More and more often I see people posting and suggesting visa cancelation / deportation / black listing as the "solution" Be careful what you wish for, because once this becomes the accepted "no charges, no trial' method it will be impossible to get that genie back in the bottle. (And guess who will be first in line and screaming at the top of their lungs then???) I completely support arrest, trial, THEN consequences, but not this cry for "vigilante justice" we see so often on this site. Do you really want a system (supported by foreigners) that allows anyone with a bone to pick, to dial up the police and get you tossed out of Thailand??

The hang em high brigade on here can't see any further than the end of there noses. Malicious accusations will become a very common way of getting rid of people if all this comes to pass. Don't be too quick to put your faith in the "arrest and trial" justice system, especially the courts , as I think their conviction rate is around 98% so if you ever end up in court its game over

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

there was an influential figure mentioned in the OP I can not imagine him being anything other than Thai more to this than meets the eye

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

there was an influential figure mentioned in the OP I can not imagine him being anything other than Thai more to this than meets the eye

It was boosted one of the four young men foreigner or Thai not mentioned!

Nevertheless, I never take anything likely but here Ive heard this boosting for years.

Years ago guy said you can never live here?

He was mafia, not I'm no expert but I've never met a gangster wearing flip flops, I've even heard I know police guys rides up in a old ass motorbike.

In the end I've never seen any Thai throwing bottles into another person home and I live with all Thai in my village outside of Pattaya tourist area and I've seen some stupid ass partying.

10 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Years ago guy said you can never live here?

He was mafia, not I'm no expert but I've never met a gangster wearing flip flops,

Nor me......... at least he wasn't wearing Crocs..........

I am about to move and retire to Thailand in July in a new house I have had built in Buriram. One of the main requirements for the house was that there are no farang neighbours. Fortunately my neighbour will be a Thai doctor and no farangs anywhere in sight.

Not only that, I intend to steer well clear of all farangs. Happy to socialize with my Thai wife and our kids and her family but I want nothing to do with any farangs wherever they are. Wasn’t very interested in farangs anyway but reading the comments on articles in this publication over a period of months, has put me off even more.

3 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

A secondary consideration was the mumbo jumbo superstitious nonsense taught at Thai schools and a third consideration was the fact that Thai education is so Thai centric with little or no attention paid to the world outside the country.

yeah, this is fair comment tbf.

12 minutes ago, Andrew Banks said:

I am about to move and retire to Thailand in July in a new house I have had built in Buriram. One of the main requirements for the house was that there are no farang neighbours. Fortunately my neighbour will be a Thai doctor and no farangs anywhere in sight.

Not only that, I intend to steer well clear of all farangs. Happy to socialize with my Thai wife and our kids and her family but I want nothing to do with any farangs wherever they are. Wasn’t very interested in farangs anyway but reading the comments on articles in this publication over a period of months, has put me off even more.

There's a contradiction at the heart of this worth pointing out.

You've chosen to live in a country where you are the foreigner, presumably expecting to be judged as an individual rather than lumped in with every other expat who has ever behaved badly. Yet you're applying the exact opposite logic to others who share your status. You want the grace of individual assessment for yourself while refusing it to an entire group based on nationality.

Selecting neighbours by ethnicity or passport rather than character isn't preference, it's prejudice. The fact that it's aimed at fellow foreigners rather than Thais doesn't make it something else. Reverse snobbery is still snobbery of a kind.

The practical case doesn't hold up either. Neighbourly disputes in Thailand are genuinely common and can escalate seriously, as any regular reader of local news will know.

A Thai neighbour is not automatically a harmonious one, and a foreign neighbour is not automatically a difficult one. Character, compatibility, and circumstance determine that, not nationality.

It's also worth questioning the source of this philosophy. Basing a sweeping social policy on comment sections in forums such as this is about as reliable as diagnosing an entire country from its tabloid headlines.

Comment sections select for the loud, the aggrieved, and the bored. They're not a representative sample of expats, or anyone else - for example, one of the closest friends I have to today is a neighbour along side whom I lived in my earlier years here.

You may well find the quiet life you're after in Buriram, and genuinely hope you do. But the reasoning here reads less like a considered philosophy and more like generalisation that you'd rightly object to if it were applied to you.

15 minutes ago, Andrew Banks said:

I am about to move and retire to Thailand in July in a new house I have had built in Buriram. One of the main requirements for the house was that there are no farang neighbours. Fortunately my neighbour will be a Thai doctor and no farangs anywhere in sight.

Not only that, I intend to steer well clear of all farangs. Happy to socialize with my Thai wife and our kids and her family but I want nothing to do with any farangs wherever they are. Wasn’t very interested in farangs anyway but reading the comments on articles in this publication over a period of months, has put me off even more.

I'm not sure that this forum is a fair representation or paints a true picture of the foreigners living in Thailand..............

16 minutes ago, Off Piste said:

I'm not sure that this forum is a fair representation or paints a true picture of the foreigners living in Thailand..............

Very true - just like anywhere else - there are many excellent people on this forum... and there are many excellent people in Thailand, both Thai's and non-Thai's - this forum is far from a realistic representation of a cross section of non-Thai / Westerner society.

Its just that the forum itself provides a pedestal and amplifies the loudest most obnoxious or controversial voices.

Added to which - anyone who actively goes out of their way to 'avoid' other foreigners is going to be somewhat of an oddball anyway, perhaps - its odd behavior to start with.

11 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Pattata attracts low class people.

Low class is an understatement and an offense to the word low. It just does not getting any worse than the clientele who visit and occupy Pattaya. Pattaya is a dystopia, an imagined world and society in which people lead wretched, dehumanized, fearful lives. It is an imagined place in which everything is unpleasant or bad, typically a totalitarian or environmentally degraded one.

5 hours ago, Legal Lifeline said:

Indeed- I have represented many multi millionaires in the past- who had no class at all

Some even become Presidents.😆

Can be quite a nightmare to have a rowdy Brit drunk as a neighbour. No offense to my decent Brit friends please.

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

The hang em high brigade on here can't see any further than the end of there noses. Malicious accusations will become a very common way of getting rid of people if all this comes to pass. Don't be too quick to put your faith in the "arrest and trial" justice system, especially the courts , as I think their conviction rate is around 98% so if you ever end up in court its game over

Appreciate your reply. Thanks. It is not so much "faith in the arrest and trial justice system" it is more of support of anything that looks like a "written down" system. It all goes back the the chill that went down my spine years ago when I got in an argument with my Thai neighbor whose insane dog tried to bite me. She was an English teacher, so there was no mistaking when she said "I am going to have you deported." It stopped me in my tracks because I realized we were in a "An (educated, higher social rank teacher) Thai person's word against a Foreigner." I got very quite, quickly, and calmed the situation. So my thing is , "How about foreigners on what is one of the only places Thai People can read what we say ... NOT go on about "Deport us every time we make a mistake." Thanks for your input, have a good day!

7 hours ago, BritScot said:

Don't those photos look staged and that looks like the same bottle! I would be so impressed if I saw a drunk throw a bottle and land on a single flat stone in the middle of a garden, bounce over the house and land perfectly on the road outside without a single crack or chip! What a viral video that would make!!!!! Or maybe it's simply a grumpy old man who will be complaining about birds making a noise in the trees and poo ing in his garden just to any him, next week.....

To me I thought the first was actually set into the concrete, not just sitting there. Very strange.