22 minutes ago, jas007 said:

In other words, you can point to no peer reviewed source to support your assertion that the merger of galaxies necessarily destroys all life forms in the merged galaxy.

Come back when you can do that. Otherwise, you're just trying to deflect from the issue at hand.

And now you are asking me to sort of prove a negative?

How many semesters of Astronomy have you completed at a decent uni, such as one of the top 10 in the world?

One does not even need to attend some top uni, because you might try Northwestern, which is cheap, yet rather decent, I have heard.

18 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

And now you are asking me to sort of prove a negative?

How many semesters of Astronomy have you completed at a decent uni, such as one of the top 10 in the world?

One does not even need to attend some top uni, because you might try Northwestern, which is cheap, yet rather decent, I have heard.

You're playing the credentials game of deflection. You cannot support your absurd assertions, so you deflect from the issues at hand be attempting to assert your great "wisdom" derived from taking a few astronomy courses.

My guess is that you might actually get away with that with some people. Well, I'm calling your bluff. Show us your cards.

What are you really up to? Several possibilities:

A. You're trolling the forum trying to stir things while knowing full well there is no support for your assertions, and so you have provided none. Instead, you deflect.

B. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of something you supposedly learned in school. That's always a possibility.

C. You were taught the nonsense by someone with a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work and you never bothered to independently verify what you were taught.

So I ask again: Please provide some support for your assertion that when two black holes merge, the resulting radiation will kill every life form in the merged galaxy. Surely, such an event would be front page news in astronomy circles. After all, we can read all about supernova explosions and the so-called "zone of death." Is there a "zone of death" that accompanies the merger of two black holes? Or is the resulting energy mostly in the form of a distortion of space/time?

Alternatively, you could just admit that you are wrong and leave it at that. We all make mistakes.

16 minutes ago, jas007 said:

My guess is that you might actually get away with that with some people.

I see.

Well then, I am very interested to know what makes you so special, just in case you might wish to share.

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

I see.

Well then, I am very interested to know what makes you so special, just in case you might wish to share.

Another non-answer from you. Obviously, you can't support your assertions.

When there's something I don't really know about or understand, I don't pretend that I do. On the other hand, in this instance I wasn't the one making the absurd assertion. You were. Fine. Show us. Support your case.

Enlighten those of us in the Peanut Gallery.

17 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Alternatively, you could just admit that you are wrong and leave it at that. We all make mistakes.

I am not wrong.

As I have tried to explain to you, though you seem unable to listen and process, is the fact that a merger of the two galaxies in question will vastly change the environment of both galaxies, following the merger.

You seem to believe that all places in our galaxy are equally conducive to Life, but this is NOT the case.

In fact, many variables will change radically following the merger of the two galaxies.

And, it is questionable whether or not the establishment of life absolutely requires very tight tolerances, which are unique to our unique placement on our own galaxy, and also dependent upon other finely tuned variables.

I do not expect you to understand this fine point, judging by your scribblings, to date.

25 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I am not wrong.

As I have tried to explain to you, though you seem unable to listen and process, is the fact that a merger of the two galaxies in question will vastly change the environment of both galaxies, following the merger.

You seem to believe that all places in our galaxy are equally conducive to Life, but this is NOT the case.

In fact, many variables will change radically following the merger of the two galaxies.

And, it is questionable whether or not the establishment of life absolutely requires very tight tolerances, which are unique to our unique placement on our own galaxy, and also dependent upon other finely tuned variables.

I do not expect you to understand this fine point, judging by your scribblings, to date.

Early on in this debate, you made a simple assertion. You asserted that the merger of two galaxies and their black holes would extinguish all life in the merged galaxy. I disagreed, and you said "False, False, False."

Fine. I'm willing to stand corrected. But you cannot support your assertion, although you've been given ample opportunities to do so. Instead, you want to move the goal post around and engage in an ad hominem attack in a futile attempt to refrain from supporting an assertion that has no basis.

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Early on in this debate, you made a simple assertion. You asserted that the merger of two galaxies and their black holes would extinguish all life in the merged galaxy. I disagreed, and you said "False, False, False."

Fine. I'm willing to stand corrected. But you cannot support your assertion, although you've been given ample opportunities to do so. Instead, you want to move the goal post around and engage in an ad hominem attack in a futile attempt to refrain from supporting an assertion that has no basis.

A. This is NOT a debate.

B. The merger of the two galaxies in question will spell the end of any life in both galaxies.

C. We can predict this outcome based on unique conditions for life, life similar to what we see on our own planet, and radically changing variables during and following a merger of the two galaxies.

5 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

A. This is NOT a debate.

B. The merger of the two galaxies in question will spell the end of any life in both galaxies.

C. We can predict this outcome based on unique conditions for life, life similar to what we see on our own planet, and radically changing variables during and following a merger of the two galaxies.

There's no proof merging two galaxies would mean the end of all life in them, as we have no proof of any other life besides ours anyway. Also, space is so huge, most of it empty, there isn't much chance of planets colliding with each other. If it happened at all, there would need to be life on that planet where any high radiation or coming close to a galactic center might end it. Highly unlikely to have that specific planet with life doing this.

Edited July 30Jul 30 by fredwiggy

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Also, space is so huge, most of it empty, there isn't much chance of planets colliding with each other.

Our galaxy is mostly "space", of course, and so your statement is correct.

However, this was not my point.

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Here is my point, or one of my points, which is crucial:

29 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There's no proof merging two galaxies would mean the end of all life in them, as we have no proof of any other life besides ours anyway. Also, space is so huge, most of it empty, there isn't much chance of planets colliding with each other. If it happened at all, there would need to be life on that planet where any high radiation or coming close to a galactic center might end it. Highly unlikely to have that specific planet with life doing this.

Well, I agree that one must extrapolate beyond the old Drake Equation, just to have a better understanding of the probability that life could form or exist during the merger of the two galaxies in question.

This was my original thinking.

Life exists here on Earth due to Goldilocks conditions for life.

Any merger between two galaxies would radically change all (most variables).

And, it seems to me that the "DEBATER" here, posting his comments, neglects to consider these important variables, which are many.

I would also like to know more about the frequency of supernovae occurrence, when a galaxy suddenly doubles in both mass and density...

Important considerations, such as these...

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Well, I agree that one must extrapolate beyond the old Drake Equation, just to have a better understanding of the probability that life could form or exist during the merger of the two galaxies in question.

This was my original thinking.

Life exists here on Earth due to Goldilocks conditions for life.

Any merger between two galaxies would radically change all (most variables).

And, it seems to me that the "DEBATER" here, posting his comments, neglects to consider these important variables, which are many.

I would also like to know more about the frequency of supernovae occurrence, when a galaxy suddenly doubles in both mass and density...

Important considerations, such as these...

The universe is so vast that supernova supposedly occur somewhere in the known universe 30 to 100 times every second. In our Milky Way, it is estimated that three or four supernova have occurred since Kepler's Supernova in 1604. None near enough to Earth to cause any damage.

As for black holes? There is supposedly a black hole merger once every 15 to 30 minutes in the known universe. And the vast majority of the energy emitted from such a merger is in the form of gravitational waves. Mere ripples in the cosmos except for those too close.

So far, no "proof" has been produced to suggest otherwise.

Yes, life on Earth occurred because of Goldilocks conditions. As for the gibberish posted above? Proves nothing about the extinction of all life in a merged galaxy. As I've said before, pretty much all large galaxies are merged galaxies. And they most certainly contain life. To think Earth is the only place in the Universe to contain life is too silly to believe. We aren't that important.

57 minutes ago, jas007 said:

The universe is so vast that supernova supposedly occur somewhere in the known universe 30 to 100 times every second.

This is NOT the point.

You should really take a few courses in astrophysics, or something.

The POINT I was making is that the distance between supernovae events might significantly diminish after merger of two galaxies.

And, this could be very significant for formation of life, and for sustainability of life on any single planet.

Go take a few courses, maybe at Northwestern, and then enjoy your readings.

6 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This is NOT the point.

You should really take a few courses in astrophysics, or something.

The POINT I was making is that the distance between supernovae events might significantly diminish after merger of two galaxies.

And, this could be very significant for formation of life, and for sustainability of life on any single planet.

Go take a few courses, maybe at Northwestern, and then enjoy your readings.

I found this on YouTube. Just posted, for what it's worth. Yes, according to this guy, the physics of a merger can result in a structure within which the frequency of supernova can increase under the more likely scenario. He paints a dim picture for the likelihood of biological life surviving in a more violent type of galaxy, but importantly, he doesn't asset that all life will necessarily be extinguished, although that's always a possibility, given the right circumstances.

Anyway, none of us will be around to find out how it turns out.

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

I found this on YouTube. Just posted, for what it's worth. Yes, according to this guy, the physics of a merger can result in a structure within which the frequency of supernova can increase under the more likely scenario. He paints a dim picture for the likelihood of biological life surviving in a more violent type of galaxy, but importantly, he doesn't asset that all life will necessarily be extinguished, although that's always a possibility, given the right circumstances.

Anyway, none of us will be around to find out how it turns out.

So, anyway....

As I originally stated, at the outset.....

THIS IS THE END......

Desperately.....

Edited July 30Jul 30 by GammaGlobulin

And....

All the children.....

Are INSANE........

The WEST is the BEST.....

Edited July 30Jul 30 by GammaGlobulin

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

I found this on YouTube. Just posted, for what it's worth. Yes, according to this guy, the physics of a merger can result in a structure within which the frequency of supernova can increase under the more likely scenario. He paints a dim picture for the likelihood of biological life surviving in a more violent type of galaxy, but importantly, he doesn't asset that all life will necessarily be extinguished, although that's always a possibility, given the right circumstances.

Anyway, none of us will be around to find out how it turns out.

Seriously, are you watching these videos from start to end ? I gave it one minute ,,,,,

27 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Seriously, are you watching these videos from start to end ? I gave it one minute ,,,,,

Seriously, if you gave the vid even more than five seconds, then you would be doing yourself a great disservice.

Why?

The video you mention is posted by some nitwit YouTube channel, called COSMICUS......HAHA.....

Also, HUMMIN, if you wish to know more about......BIGFOOT....then....

Please watch here:

https://youtu.be/ufS11jHguC8

You will find COMPELLING EVIDENCE for BIG-FOOT....if you are willing to spend the time.

Apparently, Bigfoot could be a Fallen Angel...

SERIOUSLY....!!!!!

Note: Many years ago, we had the Enquirer to provide us with similar important news.....

But, the Philadelphia Enquirer was better written, IMHO.....

Edited July 30Jul 30 by GammaGlobulin

Here is how to discriminate between Big-Foot and a Fallen Angel:

https://youtu.be/ufS11jHguC8

Edited July 30Jul 30 by GammaGlobulin

How can we tell fact from fiction?

Dear Folks,

This Topic, according to Gemini, has progressed quite well.

If you wish to read Gemini's analysis of your comments in this Topic, then please continue reading what follows.

Gemini mentions you, BY NAME, with a thought or two about what you have written, thus far, and I hope this might be enjoyable for you:

Systemic Overview of Forum Discourse

The provided forum thread operates as a bifurcated discourse system. The initial stimulus—a cosmological projection regarding the merger of the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies—functions as a catalyst that splinters the discussion into two distinct analytical pathways.

1. Cosmological Determinism: A debate regarding the mechanics of galactic mergers and their physical threat to biological life.

2. Sociological Engineering: A divergent analysis of mid-20th-century counterculture, triggered by a passing reference to the musical group The Doors.

The thread demonstrates narrative degradation. As empirical consensus fails to materialize in either pathway, the discourse devolves into satirical noise.

Pathway 1: Cosmological Mechanics and Existential Threat

This subsystem focuses on the physical variables of the galactic merger. Contributors dispute the lethality of the event.

• GammaGlobulin (Author): Initiates the primary thesis. Asserts that the galactic merger will result in the total sterilization of life due to immense gravitational forces, increased supernovae frequency, and lethal radiation (gamma rays and X-rays). Employs external AI-generated text and visual aids, specifically referencing the file image_af24f4.png to demonstrate the mechanics of global radiation output during a merger.

• jas007: Functions as the primary antagonist to GammaGlobulin. Argues the gradualist perspective. Cites the immense volume of interstellar space to conclude that planetary collisions are statistically negligible and that the merger poses no immediate threat to existing solar systems. Demands peer-reviewed empirical evidence.

• fredwiggy: Supports the gradualist framework established by jas007. Reasserts that the density of matter in space is too low to guarantee planetary destruction.

• Hummin: Rejects absolute cosmological fatalism. Introduces the concept of panspermia, suggesting biological building blocks transit through space via asteroids. Challenges GammaGlobulin's rigid interpretations and demands critical abstract thinking.

• Photoguy21: Asserts that human empirical knowledge of the universe is insufficient to form absolute conclusions. Notes that life will likely persist in galaxies outside the local merger zone.

• mordothailand: Introduces a terminal chronological variable. Notes that the expansion of the local Sun into a red giant will incinerate Earth prior to the completion of the galactic merger, rendering the collision debate irrelevant for human survival.

Pathway 2: Sociological Engineering and Counterculture

Triggered by GammaGlobulin's opening reference to The Doors, a secondary subsystem emerges analyzing the artificial construction of popular culture.

• Tourist2: Introduces a complex sociological conspiracy framework. Posits that the 1960s counterculture was a deliberate psychological operation engineered by the military-industrial complex and financial elites (Tavistock Institute, Rothschilds, London School of Economics). Connects the Gulf of Tonkin false flag operation to the father of Jim Morrison. Identifies figures like Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page as elite operatives utilizing occult practices (Aleister Crowley) to degrade social cohesion and increase population control.

• save the frogs: Validates the sociological engineering hypothesis. Discusses the Laurel Canyon phenomenon as evidence of military-intelligence involvement in music. Observes that the promotion of rock music acts as a mechanism to induce destructive drug consumption in the target demographic.

• bannork: Provides structural analysis of The Doors' musical composition. Attributes their success to unique instrumental synergy while acknowledging the self-destructive, Dionysian behavior of the vocalist.

• Rockyroad: Rejects complex sociological analysis of the band. Concludes the vocalist was simply a biological organism engaging in fatal toxic behavior.

Pathway 3: Apathy and Anthropocentric Resignation

A tertiary group of contributors bypasses both the cosmological and sociological debates, responding to the initial stimulus with expressions of short-term anthropocentric focus or complete apathy.

• Gsxrnz: Contrasts the vast 5-billion-year cosmological timeline with immediate political events, emphasizing the irrelevance of the former.

• KhunHeineken: Asserts that human behavior will render the planet uninhabitable prior to any cosmological event.

• StreetCowboy: Questions the human mechanism of environmental destruction, referencing the burning of the "Garden of Eden."

• HappyExpat57: Utilizes external video media (Neil deGrasse Tyson) to support arguments regarding human insignificance and environmental decay.

• spidermike007: Rejects long-term cosmological concern. Refocuses on immediate temporal events and dismisses the motivations of technology figures like Elon Musk.

• Nick Carter icp: Observes the historical cycle of mass extinctions, treating the cessation of human life as a standard biological reset.

• Celsius: Expresses existential detachment, noting that biological incarnation is involuntary and suggesting superior planetary systems exist.

• uncletiger: Contradicts Celsius. Asserts a metaphysical framework where biological entities consciously choose their incarnation parameters.

• MarkT63: Quotes popular music lyrics to signify complete apathy toward the apocalyptic scenario.

• Bday Prang: Provides literal, empirical corrections regarding the current mortality status of specific musicians.

• connda: Mocks the author's geographic and political variables regarding relocation.

• SiSePuede419: Dismisses the entire discourse system as the product of narcotic consumption.

Mechanism of Narrative Collapse

When empirical consensus fails in the primary cosmological debate, the system degrades. The author, GammaGlobulin, abandons rigorous argumentation and introduces satirical noise to flood the system. This collapse is executed via the injection of unrelated, absurd visual data. The author uploads image_af2891.jpg (depicting oral pharmaceutical consumption), image_af2839.jpg (a historical newspaper clipping regarding military deployment), and image_af27f7.jpg (a tabloid cover featuring a cryptid). These artifacts terminate the analytical function of the thread, transforming it into a display of structural chaos.

==================

Not all is merely Satrical Noise, I would say.

Thank you, Gemini....!!!

On 7/30/2026 at 11:46 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

Seriously, if you gave the vid even more than five seconds, then you would be doing yourself a great disservice.

Why?

The video you mention is posted by some nitwit YouTube channel, called COSMICUS......HAHA.....

Also, HUMMIN, if you wish to know more about......BIGFOOT....then....

Please watch here:

https://youtu.be/ufS11jHguC8

You will find COMPELLING EVIDENCE for BIG-FOOT....if you are willing to spend the time.

Apparently, Bigfoot could be a Fallen Angel...

SERIOUSLY....!!!!!

Note: Many years ago, we had the Enquirer to provide us with similar important news.....

But, the Philadelphia Enquirer was better written, IMHO.....

On 7/30/2026 at 11:46 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

Seriously, if you gave the vid even more than five seconds, then you would be doing yourself a great disservice.

Why?

The video you mention is posted by some nitwit YouTube channel, called COSMICUS......HAHA.....

Also, HUMMIN, if you wish to know more about......BIGFOOT....then....

Please watch here:

https://youtu.be/ufS11jHguC8

You will find COMPELLING EVIDENCE for BIG-FOOT....if you are willing to spend the time.

Apparently, Bigfoot could be a Fallen Angel...

SERIOUSLY....!!!!!

Note: Many years ago, we had the Enquirer to provide us with similar important news.....

But, the Philadelphia Enquirer was better written, IMHO.....

On 7/30/2026 at 10:01 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

So, anyway....

As I originally stated, at the outset.....

THIS IS THE END......

Desperately.....

Just out of curiosity, what does this guy, in the first five seconds, say that is so repulsive that you wouldn't continue to watch? Where is your video?