39 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

People need to be asking who the puppeteers are, who actually made the decisions, and why, to confer all this on such an utterly unremarkable man. Hence the above video.

Get to the point can't you? No need for video clips and whodunnit games. It's the deep state wef soros thing isn't it?

18 minutes ago, nauseus said:

There has been no countrywide vote in favour of Burnham. The "people" have yet to speak on this.

The last GE was a rejection of the Conservatives far more than any endorsement of Starmer (33.7%).

Burnham was not even standing for Parliament.

We've just been shunted from Two-Tier Kier over to Back Door Burnham.

So, with that in mind, I think we're probably be in even deeper poo!

The only British who actually vote for the Prime Minister are the ones on the electoral roll of his constituency. It's always been that way. Saying anything otherwise and bleating about any of them having "no mandate" or "no popular support" is just hot air, with most of that emanating from Nigel's arse.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s have a link to support your claim Burnham refused to have an inquiry into grooming gangs.

....crickets

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

The only British who actually vote for the Prime Minister are the ones on the electoral roll of his constituency. It's always been that way. Saying anything otherwise and bleating about any of them having "no mandate" or "no popular support" is just hot air, with most of that emanating from Nigel's arse.

Cobblers. Most GE's will run with the party leaders (and policies) known in advance. GE votes can be won by the popular candidate, party, or both.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There was a vote at the general election.

The people have spoken.

I'm torn on this one.

The Conservatives didn't call an election after Liz Truss resigned and Rishi Sunak became Prime Minister. So what's good for the Goose etc.

However, Burnham is pushing such a drastically different agenda to the manifesto of Kier Starmer, that perhaps a General Election should be called.

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Cobblers. Most GE's will run with the party leaders (and policies) known in advance. GE votes can be won by the popular candidate, party, or both.

It isn't cobblers. Your argument is that all British voters should have a say in who becomes the PM. They do not, never have and never will. Pay attention to the reality of the British electoral processes and not the desperate honking of the unelectable right wing cohort.

1 hour ago, phetphet said:

However, Burnham is pushing such a drastically different agenda to the manifesto of Kier Starmer, that perhaps a General Election should be called.

I thought the big concern was that Burnham's agenda, like his cabinet selection, is largely the stuff of media rumour and speculation. So how do you know if anything is going to be 'drastically different'?

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There was a vote at the general election.

The people have spoken.

About a different candidate for Prime Minister. About a different programme for government.

Come on Chomper, you know better than to hide behind such "Bagehotian" glibness!

Yours was amongst the loudest voices calling for Johnson, Truss and Sunak to face the electorate.

34 minutes ago, JAG said:

About a different candidate for Prime Minister. About a different programme for government.

Come on Chomper, you know better than to hide behind such "Bagehotian" glibness!

Yours was amongst the loudest voices calling for Johnson, Truss and Sunak to face the electorate.

I never called for Johnson, Truss or Sunak to call an election.

Never interrupt an enemy while they are making a mistake.

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

Cobblers. Most GE's will run with the party leaders (and policies) known in advance. GE votes can be won by the popular candidate, party, or both.

Apart from the last Conservative administrations which had 3 leaders with 3 distinct sets of policies

5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I thought the big concern was that Burnham's agenda, like his cabinet selection, is largely the stuff of media rumour and speculation. So how do you know if anything is going to be 'drastically different'?

...crickets

15 hours ago, nauseus said:

There has been no countrywide vote in favour of Burnham. The "people" have yet to speak on this.

The last GE was a rejection of the Conservatives far more than any endorsement of Starmer (33.7%).

Burnham was not even standing for Parliament.

We've just been shunted from Two-Tier Kier over to Back Door Burnham.

So, with that in mind, I think we're probably be in even deeper poo!

The next GE election is due in about 3 years.

18 hours ago, NanLaew said:

It isn't cobblers. Your argument is that all British voters should have a say in who becomes the PM. They do not, never have and never will. Pay attention to the reality of the British electoral processes and not the desperate honking of the unelectable right wing cohort.

I thought the big concern was that Burnham's agenda, like his cabinet selection, is largely the stuff of media rumour and speculation. So how do you know if anything is going to be 'drastically different'?

Oooh yes it is. I was referring to the way the majority of elections happen and the important information about candidates and party leaders normally being known to all before a GE. This applies to all "wings", even chicken wings.

14 hours ago, RayC said:

Apart from the last Conservative administrations which had 3 leaders with 3 distinct sets of policies

Yes, that is true. A good example of the need for a change in the system.

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The next GE election is due in about 3 years.

No chit!

22 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Who are you referring to?

Starmer

he has form

The country chooses the party, the party chooses their leader.

The only people who should stand to be re-elected are those that cross the floor or those caught accepting huge, undeclared donations.

On 7/19/2026 at 1:14 PM, VocalNeal said:

I believe in a UK election citizens vote for their local MP. The party with the most MP's in parliament then forms a government. The leader of that party is de facto Prime Minister. If he/she/it dies or resigns then the party chooses another leader.

History

So the electorate do not directly vote for a Prime Minister.

Like so many things in our uncodified constitutional settlement it is really driven by convention.

By convention, the person who leads the party in the General Election becomes the Prime Minister. Technically one votes for ones constituency candidate, in practice that decision is heavily influenced if not determined by the electorate's views on the party leader as Prime Minister.

In recent years several Prime Ministers ascended to the role through party reshuffles, all were dogged by accusations of political illegitamacy until or unless they called a General Election. That said, at least they had been on the platform during the previous General Election. Burnham wasn't.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by JAG

On 7/19/2026 at 6:49 AM, BritManToo said:

Burnham didn't stand in the general election.

Would you be OK with Hitler being appointed PM by the Labour party as PM?

Might be a good way to get an unelectable person as PM.

Why not Khan for PM?

Kerching Godwin's Law on the third post - that's gotta be some kind of record.

On 7/19/2026 at 8:41 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s have a link to support your claim Burnham refused to have an inquiry into grooming gangs.

There is a social media clip on X where some self-professed "citizen journalist" aka some gob-<deleted>e with a iPhone and a gimbal intercepts Our T'Andy on the Makerfield election walking an accuses him of such which Andy counteracts and moves on. This then becomes evidence as said gob_sh!te blatherers into the wind and this clip is then probably shared by Torah Tomeee Ten-names as "evidence" . That's how it works.

Our new PM five weeks ago wasn't even an MP. The only way he could enter Parliment was via a visitors day pass. Labour party timed it so Burnham wouldn't have to face Farage and Co in PMQs. Nigel and Kemi would rip him to pieces at the ballot box. As for Burnham grasping the problem of Grooming gangs in Manchester beuitifulthailand listen to Maggie Oliver and rethink who blocked Enquiry's into grooming gangs while Burnham was Mayor.

On 7/19/2026 at 12:49 PM, BritManToo said:

Burnham didn't stand in the general election.

People vote for a party not a person at a general election. There is none of that Presidential nonsense. Deal with it, 3 years still left on the mandate already voted. As for the op, its based on ONE news paper that is right wing so no surprises there.

Presumably now that their beloved leftie fraudster Rayner is back in charge of housing(oh the irony!🤣), team woke will stop obsessing over Farage's donations?

It would have been even funnier if the lass that is only photographed drinking booze, puffing on vapes or looking rough as a badgers rearend was made health minister.

Loving the clown show so far

2 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

People vote for a party not a person at a general election. There is none of that Presidential nonsense. Deal with it, 3 years still left on the mandate already voted. As for the op, its based on ONE news paper that is right wing so no surprises there.

Campaigns& Elections

I always voted for Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour party.

Didn't care who he appointed as his local representative.

They got my vote.

Edited July 21Jul 21 by BritManToo

On 7/19/2026 at 11:19 AM, BritManToo said:

Burnham didn't stand in the general election.

Would you be OK with Hitler being appointed PM by the Labour party as PM?

Might be a good way to get an unelectable person as PM.

Why not Khan for PM?

OMG. Fingers crossed this isn't another Trump. The world has already sat through that sequel once... or still sitting on...

Maybe your fledgling democracy should first finally get a Constitution if you want to nail down Presidential terms beyond mere whims...?

Baby steps. 😄

On 7/20/2026 at 6:49 AM, nauseus said:

Oooh yes it is. I was referring to the way the majority of elections happen and the important information about candidates and party leaders normally being known to all before a GE. This applies to all "wings", even chicken wings.

The majority of UK elections fall on, or about their due date as prescribed in our wonderfully unwritten constitution. At that time, the eligible but typically apathetic voters can have their say, regardless of them understanding or ever having read any parties manifesto. Lemmings.

When the lemmings get sufficiently upset to stir up the back-benchers, factions and party malcontents, the incumbents rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic and have their in-house leadership change. As prescribed in the same wonderfully unwritten constitution, this practice doesn't need the involvement of the lemmings. Never has

Now, if a seated government stubs their toe sufficiently enough to earn and lose a parliamentary vote of no confidence, then the lemmings can have their say, but someone needs to wake them up first.

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

The majority of UK elections fall on, or about their due date as prescribed in our wonderfully unwritten constitution.

Wow, you sound very smart

You must read a lot of unwritten books 🥁

1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Wow, you sound very smart

You must read a lot of unwritten books 🥁

There is no constitutional mechanism for voters to trigger a general election.

But thanks for playing.

27 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

There is no constitutional mechanism for voters to trigger a general election.

Campaigns& Elections

But thanks for playing.

There are no constitution cod piece.

England is not cod-ified.

codified

To codify means to organize and arrange rules, laws, or procedures into a systematic, formal code. Something that is codified has been formally written down, classified, and published so that it is clear, uniform, and easily accessible to the public

Edited July 21Jul 21 by SiSePuede419
No written constitution