13 hours ago, Hummin said:

No Time to Die was okay, much like the rest of the Bond films. Some good stunts, but nothing truly spectacular.

I stopped watching those films a long time ago.

They're all the same.

How many sequels can you watch?

Watch something else.

It is Time to Die, for this franchise to die.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Excellent actress she may be, but as the boss of Bond she was about as convincing as a Nigerian Prince asking for your bank account number. Or a Bond with a Nokia.

Yes, clearly it is fiction, but there has to be some believability, and the novels clearly were well written and believable to the extent that generations of men did model themselves on Bond. To this day parts of the manosphere tell you to act like Bond. When he's now as believable as Peter Rabbit.

Judi Dench is one of the better actresses of our time. If you look at the leaders before her, they weren't calling Bond out, which should have been a no brainer for his actions, but before, Bond was supposed to be a player, which was what they had in mind before, a hero to some , jerk to others.

Only a misogynist would model themselves after Bond, as he's the worse type of "man" we have. This is why they wrote a stronger actress in with Dench. Manosphere aren't men but little boys who were never taught respect for women, and see them as objects.

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

The Bond franchise happens to be fiction, right from the start. Get it? Fiction, not reality.

Yes, dear, we all get that Bond is fiction, however, fiction, at least good fiction, has to be believable. Unfortunately, Bond now has become as a believable as your posts, ie not very much. A Nokia phone. I mean really.

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

but it broadened the films' appeal to a wider audience, especially women

Well, Thunderball still made more money when adjusted for inflation, but clearly women were short-changed with Daniel Craig. As stated, his looks and cold fish persona, hardly made for good sex scenes.

In the final analysis the makers of Bond have sold out Bond to Nokia, Vaio, BMW and all the other companies they beg product placement money from. And of course literally as Bond was actually sold to Amazon. They have pandered to the woke, PC brigade, like yourself, and yes, that has put that crowd on the seats in the short term, but it will surely spell the end of Bond, as a believable character in the long term. He's become ludicrous now.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Cameroni

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I stopped watching those films a long time ago.

They're all the same.

How many sequels can you watch?

Watch something else.

It is Time to Die, for this franchise to die.

There is that of course, it's a stale formula done to death. Hard to flog that same dead horse over and over again and still come out tops. They give it a good go, but clearly the edges are fraying.

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Only the Craig Bond movies were interesting. The earlier ones were really too silly to take seriously, especially after Goldfinger. Hard to believe the franchise lasted as long as it did.

I find Goldfinger much more believable than Skyfall. Judi Dench as Bond's boss? A Nokia phone? A guy hacking into MI6 whilst imprisoned? I mean Skyfall is ludicrous.

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

No Time To Die was OK.

The Woke nonsense has even infected the game now though. 007 First Light has a rude/bossy Asian woman as M, a rude/bossy black woman as Moneypenny and Bond's Drill instructor is rude, patronizing and black. In the cut scenes they all sneer at Bond like he is some type of retard. All the old silly stuffy characters are white. Obviously.

Hardly a white face in the Q-lab. Maybe 90% non white at a guess.

It's worse than the adverts on ITV. 😄

I thought there was supposed to be equal representation of races? Not almost complete erasure of white people. 😄

Looking forward to a black Lesbian Bond and her furry trans partner to finish off the franchise for good. 😄

The films are passable light entertainment, but really the PC thuggery rammed down your throat, the product placement shamelessness, it's all a bit much. They try too hard.

What is odd, is all the black people in Bond, when the UK has far more Indians and Pakistanis and East Europeans? Where are the Indians and East Europeans in Bond? Looking at the films they don't exist. Clearly, putting in black people is a much surer bet to assuage your PC cravings.

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The Woke nonsense has even infected the game now though. 007 First Light has a rude/bossy Asian woman as M, a rude/bossy black woman as Moneypenny and Bond's Drill instructor is rude, patronizing and black. In the cut scenes they all sneer at Bond like he is some type of retard. All the old silly stuffy characters are white. Obviously.

Who cares what all these fictional human beings are doing?

I always found most of these background characters annoying and these silly subplots just distracting from the main action.

Was a perfect time to go take a dump when these useless characters were on screen.

Don't let them brainwash you.

Just enjoy the action.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Who cares what all these fictional human beings are doing?

I always found most of these background characters annoying and these silly subplots just distracting from the main action.

Was a perfect time to go take a dump when these useless characters were on screen.

Don't let them brainwash you.

Just enjoy the action.

True. It's like looking up to a real character like the Kardashians and seeing them as heroes also.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by fredwiggy

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Manosphere aren't men but little boys who were never taught respect for women, and see them as objects.

Have you been binge watching chick flicks again?

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

Have you been binge watching chick flicks again?

I watch all good movies. Having respect for women is what a man's supposed to have ingrained since birth.

47 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I watch all good movies. Having respect for women is what a man's supposed to have ingrained since birth.

Since birth? Then he sees Bonnie Blue I guess.