45 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

At first I asked some of my Indian friends is there a huge prevalence of gay men in India? They laughed and said no it's just that since we can't show affection to women we just end up showing affection to our buddies, it's not a gay thing it's just a human thing.

I once had a discussion with a coworker from India. He reached out and held my hand, which felt strange.

1 hour ago, harvardgrad said:

The immigrants are fine if done the way US is doing it. The Latinos who have done it the right way are actually more pleasant to be around than tge whites now. More grounded to reality. work harder. More appreciative of the opportunity to integrate and live here

What europe is doing is not the same

(For the purposes of this discussion, I'll define Europe as the EU and UK).

You don't spell out what you think is wrong with Europe's immigration system. Wrt the labour market, the EU functions in almost exactly the same way as the US. Someone from, say, California wants to work in New York. They have two choices, either find a job before they set off or go to NYC and seek work as soon as they arrive. Unless you tell me otherwise, it is pretty much as simple as that. Same thing for, say, a Bulgarian looking to work in Madrid. Sort it out before setting off or sort it out when they get there.

Unfortunately, since Brexit we UK nationals are no longer able to take advantage of this system which limits opportunities for both workers and employers.

13 minutes ago, RayC said:

You don't spell out what you think is wrong with Europe's immigration system

They aren't vetting these people. Just a free flow of invaders. It's been spelled out here day in and day out you just don't want to hear

15 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

They aren't vetting these people. Just a free flow of invaders. It's been spelled out here day in and day out you just don't want to hear

They are ILLEGAL, not legal, immigrants. I am not denying that illegal immigration is a problem

You still don't spell out what you claim to be a problem with Europe's immigration policies or what your solutions might be.

2 minutes ago, RayC said:

They are ILLEGAL, not legal, immigrants. I am not denying that illegal immigration is a problem

You still don't spell out what you claim to be a problem with Europe's immigration policies or what your solutions might be.

Trump worked for us. Elect one of those

13 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

Trump worked for us. Elect one of those

Europe has 'been there, done it' when it comes to starting unnecessary wars overseas and causing economic chaos so we'll leave you to 'enjoy' Trump and his legacy.

Edited August 5Aug 5 by RayC

20 hours ago, RayC said:

All of the current England squad - black and white - are English by birth (expect for Guehi who is English by naturalisation). They are all English no matter how hard you try to wish otherwise.

They are not ethnically English.

Ask Anthony Joshua, who openly and enthusiastically celebrates his Nigerian heritage. He knows what he is, even if you don't. He literally wraps himself in the Nigerian flag.

Fighter Anthony Joshua Reps the Nigerian Flag | Jake vs. Joshua | Netflix

VIDEO: Anthony Joshua Brags About his Nigerian Heritage While Speaking at Commonwealth Day Service

"I am proudly Nigerian" - Anthony Joshua.

How come he is "English" but Dave Paulden is "Jewish"? Riddle me that..

19 hours ago, RayC said:

As I stated previously, the introduction of the use of the phrase, 'Ethnic English' just serves to drive a false divide between white and non-white Englishmen and is simply a pseudo-intellectual attempt to justify racism.

Does a Black American create a false division between white and Black Americans through a pseudo-intellectual attempt to justify racism when he describes himself as African American? No; he is merely describing his heritage accurately, just as Anthony Joshua and I do. Yet, you claim to know better than he does, insisting he is ethnically English and simply unaware of it. 😄

This seems to be another of your rules that applies exclusively to white people. Once again, you proudly differentiate between the two through your 'positive' DEI discrimination

The sole reason you perceive the statement of these facts as racist is your underlying belief that distinguishing between someone of Nigerian ethnicity and someone of English ethnicity is an insult. Because you view ethnic Nigerians as inferior to ethnic English individuals, you assume that making this distinction is inherently insulting. This demonstrates, once again, your own prejudice toward Black people and reflects the bigotry of low expectations frequently held by the political left.

Because of your inherent racism, you believe that accurately identifying a Black person's heritage constitutes an insult, when it is actually nothing more than the statement of an empirical fact.

You are projecting your own negative associations or internal biases onto a neutral descriptor.

Sorry to break the bad news Raymond, you're the racist here.

15 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

They aren't vetting these people. Just a free flow of invaders. It's been spelled out here day in and day out you just don't want to hear

Who knew Saudi Arabians could have such strong feelings on European immigration!

On 8/5/2026 at 5:03 PM, crouchpeter said:

What a ridiculous comparison. Like all lefties, your thinking and logic is limited by your parochial and uneducated beliefs.

Don't be too hard on him, he's trying to impress by mentioning Venn diagrams - remember those from primary school?