5 minutes ago, RayC said:

an individual would have to trace their bloodlines exclusively back to the indigenous tribes of England.

1360's good enough? That is about the limit of parish records.

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

1360's good enough? That is about the limit of parish records.

Afraid not. DNA showing 100% Brigante, Dumnonii, Catuvellauni, Trinovante, Corieltauvi, Cantiaci or Pict blood is necessary (a combination might be acceptable🤔).

More seriously, imo anyone who is English by birth or naturalisation, and identifies themself as English is English irrespective of their colour.

As I stated previously, the introduction of the use of the phrase, 'Ethnic English' just serves to drive a false divide between white and non-white Englishmen and is simply a pseudo-intellectual attempt to justify racism.

What about humus? Is that two things?

And what about wearing man dresses in Suvarnabhumi airport when you're flying back to West Asia?

That's three things.

I thought Muslims were supposed to be good at math* 📐

*after all you claim to have invented zero, but you didn't, people in the lost civilization called Indus Valley Civilization did

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Greens are not ‘far left’.

To an average person, the Green Party is considered to be far left.

4 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

To an average person, the Green Party is considered to be far left.

Or at least so you assert.

3 hours ago, crouchpeter said:

At 82, 3 marriages and many relationships later, I've come to the conclusion that if I'd grown up with Sharia law, I'd be richer and happier

if you are married to abbey clancy you should be happy

4 hours ago, novacova said:

Japanese have no interest in any of the debased abjects of the despicable filth way Arabs treat women.

17 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

Their population issue would be solved without even having to bring in immigrants.

The ignorance here is utterly astounding.

This happened to Rome too. The advanced people have become too advanced and forgot the point of living. Seems inevitable but all we have to do is take a step back and see what's working for muslims and not working for us. We don't have to go back to being uncivilized but we do have to reproduce and tge way to do that is put women back in tge place they belong which is usually the kitchen and out of sight of the enemy.

Progressives have run their course and all we need is a little bit of regressing to get back to equilibrium.

And yes I used Japan as an example because their gender war is currently worse than the western countries. SK too. They are like whites except on steroids. Too advanced for their own good and now committing civilizational suicide

21 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

The way they treat women is on point. Prove me wrong

Your post is proof enough of your wrong.

20 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

To clarify i don't agree with chopping anyone's hand off or bodily mutilation but just other than that seems rational

Sorry, but that didn’t help you a single bit.

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

70's, is that only because, that's how far your knowledge goes. As you seemed quite surprise when we mentioned we remember the 60's on another thread.

Mankind went partially wrong, when they started actually believing people pushing and trying to get extremely ignorant people to join a religion.

I believe in things I can see, hear or touch for myself. Not imaginary entities. I don't need to be told or taught how to treat people.

Have a nice day.

I think the time around the Vietnam war and removing tge gold standard were really what started the biggest issues today. Not sure what age you were, I'd say that was the when leadership was the worst, I think LBJ and nixon. And then after thay along came feminism. The dagger in the heart

Edited August 5Aug 5 by harvardgrad

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or at least so you assert.

I do assert. The greens are on the far left.

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52080-where-do-britons-see-politicians-parties-and-themselves-on-the-left-right-spectrum

It's strange that my original post about this was removed without any explanation.

Edited August 5Aug 5 by temuFarang

10 hours ago, Tidal wave said:

I have no problem with Islam. I am just against beheadings, stoning, marrying little girls, sexual slavery, taqiyya,slave trading, rape, jihad, burqas, child abuse, women abuse, animal abuse,multiple wives, murder, Sharia,terrorism, brainwashing, . Does that make me Islamophobic?

Multiple wives doesn't seem like it would hurt us much as long as it's people like you and me getting multiple wives while the feminized men you see polluting my thread with attempts to silence me only have to wonder why women don't like them. That's natural selection

9 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

Let me check Quran and authentic hadiths what they say.

Men are in charge of women (Quran 4:34).

A husband may discipline a disobedient wife, including physical correction after admonition and separation (same verse, classical tafsirs of Tabari, Qurtubi, Ibn Kathir).

Women inherit half of what men inherit in most cases (4:11).

In financial testimony, two women equal one man (2:282).

Polygyny is allowed for men (up to four), not for women (4:3).

A woman’s primary role is obedience and guarding the husband’s property and lineage in his absence (4:34 again).

EU and many other western countries have accepted all of the above. For those who have difficulty coping with this here's some help: https://islamic-sharia.org/therapy

All of that's not as much of an issue of what western countries have done to make women and men hate each other. Muslim women think they want what we have but then guess what they would be more miserable anyway.

Thai women thay grew up in Thailand don't really like it much outside their country either, even if the west is more comfortable for them. Maybe generalizing a bit but I don't think so

9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Unfortunately, western Liberal women suffering from toxic empathy are finding out about the dangers of befriending/dating Muslim men.

Jamey Carney is a recent example.

It seems that the bizarre alliance between Liberal progressives and conservative Muslims is starting to unravel. Which is a shame.

Starting to unravel maybe for those affected but the majority of women are still voting for this to happen and will continue to until the leadership wakes up and goes back to the founding principles which are that men created civilizations are are the only ones that can keep them going. Or collapse

7 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Muslims get little right. However, Islamists teaming up with the left is not without precedent and that's how they took over Iran from the Shah, then once power was gained they disposed of the liberals in a predictably dark and sinister way so their fantasy Islam country could be pure, look it up if you don't know your history.

Seems like the same thing is slowly being dished out in Europe too... for example, the far-left Greens (lead by someone of Jewish heritage) teaming up with radical hardcore Islamists in the UK, which are strange bedfellows to say the least. What could go wrong?

Im not sure if I see it that way. I don't think they are teaming up. The west is just allowing them inside

6 hours ago, Presnock said:

Having lived in a fundamentalist Muslim city for a couple of years living with terrorist threats regularly, having several friends/co-workers shot at a stop light right behind me and my wife, and seeing how they treat women is hard to believe that any thinking person would agree that all women should be treated as slaves is ridiculous IMHO. When I first arrived there, driving from the airport late evening, going by numerous coffee houses, at first wondered what the strange scenes were then recalled yeah not one female at the coffee houses but lots of men hanging all over each other no exaggeration either.

Yeah they don't do allot right in those countries I just think that what we have done with women is far worse than what they do with theirs. Their civilizations are still going while ours is declining. That's what happens when you allow them positions of leadership

21 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

The way they treat women is on point. Prove me wrong

Ive nothing to prove you wrong, infact I agree 100%.

they step out, publicly stone em to death.... win win.

Edited August 5Aug 5 by Ralf001

5 hours ago, connda said:

Why not complain about Amish women and their choice of dress?

When Westerners complain about "women's rights" regarding conservative dress, the will almost always point to Iran and scream - "SEE! EVIL IRANIANS." Yet Saudi Arabia is much worse, but because the KSA is a "US ally" and "American's friend," Americans are blind to the forced dress codes for women in Saudi Arabia - AND - they fail to realize that Iran has loosened up their conservative dress codes as Gen Z Persian women come of age and push back.

My wife dresses conservatively from a society where many females in her generation don't. Im not sure if thay has something to do with the way she was raised but there are a lot of single and also some married women who dress like they are still seeking more options with the way they present themselves. Im fortunate thay mine has chosen to settle for her kids and not go for more but the ugly reality is that most women should just not be given the choice. It's really destructive to our society. Arabs have this covered where we will need to take note at some point why this works for them

21 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

The way they treat women is on point. Prove me wrong

Does this statement come from "Harvard" graduated even?❓🤡🤡🤡🍾🎉🙀🙃

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I would like to make complaint about the Amish woman's clothes . So old fashioned and George O,Dowdy

I don't see any of those. I think those places, like rural Idaho and Utah and such...those places are not in decline like everywhere else here

5 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

White guy for civility in discourse. No, you are not free to incite hate and this is not a public forum.

Yes it is. I think the place you are looking for is reddit

5 hours ago, Keeenok Powell said:

I don’t think burying you up to your shoulders then having rocks thrown at your head until you die (for adultery) would be an enjoyable experience .

Adultery doesn't happen there for that reason. It's not enjoyable but neither is it for us. Except they will still have a society and we wont

5 hours ago, Wingate said:

My two previous posts in your silly Incel-ish thread have kind of held up a mirror to weak men like you and those who agree with your misogynistic view of women.

Your failure with women is solely the fault of the guy in your bathroom mirror....and no, I don't mean Lindsey Graham when he stands behind you.

The only failure is having a woman do something for you that you could've done better yourself. Took too long to realize that. I avoid women owned businesses now

5 hours ago, crouchpeter said:

I think you missed the joke.

At 82, 3 marriages and many relationships later, I've come to the conclusion that if I'd grown up with Sharia law, I'd be richer and happier.

Sharia law not necessary just for gender roles to be enforced. Perhaps by law if necessary

3 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I handle opposing views just fine, but ignorant ones are not worth my time.

No one forced you into this thread.

Note everyone wishing to shut discussion down as this thread has nothing to do with trump. Keep this forum boring and devoid of original thought

5 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

They're also very wary of jews / see through their BS so that's at least 2 things.

PS. Imagine if this subject was about the grabblers instead of Muzzies - would be shut down in 2 seconds.

You are just as bot/NPC like as the leftists. You provide no meaningful discussion per the norm

2 hours ago, RayC said:

Jonny, you introduced this concept of 'ethnic English' in a futile attempt to justify your own racism.

I did NOT say that if you are born in England you are ethnically English. What I said was to be ethnically English, an individual would have to trace their bloodlines exclusively back to the indigenous tribes of England. Black English players cannot do that, therefore, they are NOT ethnically English.

However, given that England has been invaded by Saxons, Romans, Vikings and Normans, and that immigrants have been arriving constantly in England for centuries, it is extremely unlikely that any of the white English players can trace their bloodlines exclusively back to the indigenous tribes, therefore they are NOT ethnically English either.

All of the current England squad - black and white - are English by birth (expect for Guehi who is English by naturalisation). They are all English no matter how hard you try to wish otherwise.

Again, as I have stated previously, 'Ethnic English' when applied to Englishmen who are alive today is little more than a theoretical concept unless you try - as you have done - to redefine 'Ethnic English' to include immigrant groups such as Romans and Normans. Unfortunately for you, this begs the question if these white immigrant groups are 'Ethnically English', why can't black immigrant groups also be considered 'Ethnically English'?

Hope that this helps and that you now understand.

No need to apologise for your error and misrepresentation of my position.

The immigrants are fine if done the way US is doing it. The Latinos who have done it the right way are actually more pleasant to be around than tge whites now. More grounded to reality. work harder. More appreciative of the opportunity to integrate and live here

What europe is doing is not the same

Edited August 5Aug 5 by harvardgrad

31 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

Yes it is. I think the place you are looking for is reddit

That would be incorrect.

14 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

Note everyone wishing to shut discussion down as this thread has nothing to do with trump. Keep this forum boring and devoid of original thought

Would you like to try that again in English?

7 hours ago, Presnock said:

Having lived in a fundamentalist Muslim city for a couple of years living with terrorist threats regularly, having several friends/co-workers shot at a stop light right behind me and my wife, and seeing how they treat women is hard to believe that any thinking person would agree that all women should be treated as slaves is ridiculous IMHO. When I first arrived there, driving from the airport late evening, going by numerous coffee houses, at first wondered what the strange scenes were then recalled yeah not one female at the coffee houses but lots of men hanging all over each other no exaggeration either.

Kind of similar to what I experienced in India when I lived and worked there more than 30 years ago. Because public demonstrations of affection were absolutely forbidden between men and women, the men sat with their arms around each other in movie theaters and walked down the street holding hands. At first I asked some of my Indian friends is there a huge prevalence of gay men in India? They laughed and said no it's just that since we can't show affection to women we just end up showing affection to our buddies, it's not a gay thing it's just a human thing.

1 hour ago, harvardgrad said:

This happened to Rome too. The advanced people have become too advanced and forgot the point of living. Seems inevitable but all we have to do is take a step back and see what's working for muslims and not working for us. We don't have to go back to being uncivilized but we do have to reproduce and tge way to do that is put women back in tge place they belong which is usually the kitchen and out of sight of the enemy.

Progressives have run their course and all we need is a little bit of regressing to get back to equilibrium.

And yes I used Japan as an example because their gender war is currently worse than the western countries. SK too. They are like whites except on steroids. Too advanced for their own good and now committing civilizational suicide

I’m going to go with Susan has mum issues.

1 hour ago, harvardgrad said:

I don't see any of those. I think those places, like rural Idaho and Utah and such...those places are not in decline like everywhere else her. e

You will find the Amish mostly in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and to some extent in Virginia. I've seen horse-drawn buggies in Ohio off the beaten path, and I've encountered the Amish at rest stops along the highways. If you ever get the chance, you should visit Northern Ohio and Western Pennsylvania. It's beautiful country.

7 hours ago, Wingate said:

The way a man thinks of women reveals a lot about his socio economic class, like common laborers or truck drivers. Lower class guys tend to think guys should lord over females. They are unable to accept women might be smart, skilled and successful, perhaps because their experience has been other “trailer park” types, or else first cousins or sisters. Most likely these men are insecure and know deep down they cannot compete fairly with women. Rather they require the anachronism of “male privilege”.

 

Men from higher socio economic levels of society have seen the skills and talents women bring to the table and do not view females as manipulative money grubbers better kept barefoot and pregnant. The higher up a man’s socio economic standing is, the more he tends to respect women and treat them as the equals they are. The women in his social class seek a man for a loving relationship, not for money. She earns her own. She wants a man who is her intellectual and economic equal, and who gives her the respect she deserves.

 

It’s clear from this thread who the lower class unaccomplished males are.

You must live an insular life.  You need to meet people outside of your bubble.