1 minute ago, swissie said:

After WW2, the Germans did not talk about the lost war (the silent generation). But todays German generation want to know what their grandparents did during this time. Today, the many German Television stations feature a great number of documentaries that lay open what really happenened during this time. With no rose coloured glasses.

By asking their grandparents, one thing seems to become clear: What the "war/after war" generation of Germans regretted the most was the fact that they lost the war.

This can not come as a surprise, as 95% of Germans back then supported Hitler. Until the bitter end.

Europe was a very different place then, after hundreds of years of wars crossing borders, empires rising and falling, WWI, economic collapse and political violence. That helps explain how Hitler could take power and how the unacceptable gradually became acceptable. It does not excuse it.

But I would not be too comfortable thinking we are fundamentally different today. Look at how quickly people can accept talk about taking Greenland, threatening other countries, bombing abroad and even killing people at sea, as long as they believe their own side has a good reason. History does not have to repeat exactly to teach us something. People are still people.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

David Irving conceded he was wrong and that the gas chambers existed.

I call Bull <deleted>. Source or it didn't happen.
Should be easy since they are sooooo over represented in media

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

However, regarding the numbers there is of course still debate. In 2002, the left wing journalist Fritjof Meyer published a highly controversial article in the academic journal Osteuropa, where he claimed that approximately 510,000 people were murdered at Auschwitz. The main consenus places the figure much higher, at 1.1 million.

So it was 4M allegedly gassed at the beginning of the 1990s, later reduced *officially to 1.1M
BUT they still insist on the 6M total figure????
Can you see how people doubt this ?
Esp to anyone considering their expulsions from 109 nation states (pls don't tell me every time it was for nothing).??

Gotta admit (obvs unlkess your in on the scam) that the story is fishy AF to anyone with an honest bone in their bodies.

The man himself (AFTER the Vienna Trial).
Like it or not, many valid points are made in this... ALso interesting that Christopher Hitchens (a VERY clever man) considered Irving a 'Top Historian'

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Europe was a very different place then, after hundreds of years of wars crossing borders, empires rising and falling, WWI, economic collapse and political violence. That helps explain how Hitler could take power and how the unacceptable gradually became acceptable. It does not excuse it.

But I would not be too comfortable thinking we are fundamentally different today. Look at how quickly people can accept talk about taking Greenland, threatening other countries, bombing abroad and even killing people at sea, as long as they believe their own side has a good reason. History does not have to repeat exactly to teach us something. People are still people.

Thanks. That sums it up in a nutshell. Humans are capable of love as well as banging each others head in. Has been like this for 300 thousand years.

Both are part of human nature.

- After 250 years of "the age of reason" and all the scientific progress made, one thing we have not managed: HOW TO AVOID WARS.

We are still cavemen, equipped with smart phones.

18 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I would not be too comfortable thinking we are fundamentally different today. Look at how quickly people can accept talk about taking Greenland, threatening other countries, bombing abroad and even killing people at sea, as long as they believe their own side has a good reason. History does not have to repeat exactly to teach us something. People are still people.

Exactly. Look at what these Israeli bastards did to Gaza with US and British support.
Evil <deleted>.
Also note how the majority would have gleefully sent unquaccinated people to concerntration camps during the 2020-2022 panicdemic.

Whoever runs the biggest empire is usually the biggest bastard.
Americans have swallowed their own props but have been the BIGGEST bastards since at least 1946.
Never mind the Germans - Many of the occupying Americans were rapists and murderers - Russians raped and pillaged on a mass scale too.

Re: American & British bastardry in Germany after WW2:

"Eisenhower's Death Camps" from the Canadian magazine Saturday Night, September 1989

Full article: https://archive.org/details/EisenhowersDeathCamps_201502/mode/1up

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by Tourist2

3 minutes ago, swissie said:

After 250 years of "the age of reason" and all the scientific progress made, one thing we have not managed: HOW TO AVOID WARS.

All wars are bankers wars
- an excuse to print debt ($£ etc from thin air), then lent to governments (i.e. taxpayers) by private central banks / and their owners - and to be paid back (by taxpayers), with interest.

The pandemic/scamdemic was used in a similar way.
(An excuse to inflate our currency/savings away)

Interesting that none of the main players mentioned the Holly in their memoirs though isnt it?...

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6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Are you by any chance of white supremacist? Or a proud boy?

Neither - As I said earlier.

Sure you can thumbs down but why run away when asked to answer simple questions???
Scared of the truth?
The truth will never fear a debate. Only when there is something to hide, debate is avoided


There's also the case of David Cole, an American Jew who became a Holocaust denier/revisionist in the early 1990s.

In September 1992, Cole went to Auschwitz and filmed himself taking a tour, deliberately presenting himself as a Jewish visitor. He subsequently produced videos arguing that the evidence for mass gassing at Auschwitz was fraudulent.

The particularly well-known film was David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, in which Cole interviewed the then-curator of the Auschwitz State Museum (available on Rumble IF you have an interest in sanity checking your beliefs).

The chronology is roughly this:

Cole became a prominent Holocaust revisionist/denier in the early 1990s and made his Auschwitz film after visiting the camp in 1992.

By 1994–95, he appears to have become convinced by some documentary evidence concerning gas chambers, particularly evidence concerning the gas chamber at Natzweiler-Struthof.
There are accounts that he worked with French historian Jean-Claude Pressac and found that evidence persuasive.

But in 1997–98, Cole received death threats from the Jewish Defense League, including a reported $25,000 bounty. He then issued a public recantation and disappeared under the name David Stein.

Crucially, Cole later said that the 1998 recantation was false — that he made it to protect himself. In 2013 he told The Guardian: “I haven't changed my views.” He still expressed doubts about the Auschwitz gas-chamber evidence, although his position had become considerably more qualified than his early claims.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/03/david-stein-cole-holocaust-revisionist

4 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history.
Funny how famously jewish hollywood stays silent on Yagoda's murder of millions of white christians though isn't it?
(see cartoon above).

I don't want to get in between you or mikes german taxpayer funded h0locAust surver rapper rations but come on - can you guys ever lose the perma victim BS. Esp. in the light of what your people have done / are doing in Gaza - an actual genuine, properly documented genocide?

Quote: "For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history".

I am shaking in my boots: We have a frequent and cherished member on AN that goes by "Yagoda". 😟 Heaven help us.

44 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Also note how the majority would have gleefully sent unquaccinated people to concerntration camps during the 2020-2022 panicdemic.

Your beef with the world might better be focused on the globalists causing this, like soros rather than this simplistic "us vs them" mentality. Unless you enjoy just wasting your time trolling here. Twitter and YouTube aren't legitimate sources. I'd rather read Wikipedia to be honest

3 minutes ago, swissie said:

Quote: "For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history".

I am shaking in my boots: We have a frequent and cherished member on AN that goes by "Yagoda". 😟 Heaven help us.

Do some freaking research you moron

1 hour ago, harvardgrad said:

Do some freaking research you moron

Next to a "yagoda" we also have a guy here that goes by "harvardgrad" = harvard graduate. I have reason to believe that "harvardgrad" never came near to Harvard.

Harvard graduates do not need to make their point by using insulting language and foul language.

You called me a moron, I call you a highly emotional imposter that can not channel his views into acceptabele civilised conversation.

Harvard is far away from the east end of London and far away from the east coast of America. But AN is very near, isen't it ?

9 hours ago, swissie said:

Quote: "For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history".

I am shaking in my boots: We have a frequent and cherished member on AN that goes by "Yagoda". 😟 Heaven help us.

Yep, the one on here is also a jew and is indicating that he's very sick in the head by choosing that user name.
Interesting that it's allowed when you think about it.

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8 hours ago, swissie said:

Next to a "yagoda" we also have a guy here that goes by "harvardgrad" = harvard graduate. I have reason to believe that "harvardgrad" never came near to Harvard.

Harvard graduates do not need to make their point by using insulting language and foul language.

You called me a moron, I call you a highly emotional imposter that can not channel his views into acceptabele civilised conversation.

Harvard is far away from the east end of London and far away from the east coast of America. But AN is very near, isen't it ?

Botha are sick puppies but TBF, most on here are best put on ignore.

Adults trapped in kids bodies who can't handle their worldviews being questioned.
Pussies.

9 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

Do some freaking research you moron

Compared to many of the other nutters on here hg has a moderate post count, so it could be worse.

10 hours ago, swissie said:

Quote: "For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history".

I am shaking in my boots: We have a frequent and cherished member on AN that goes by "Yagoda". 😟 Heaven help us.

Do you believe they are related?

11 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

Exactly. Look at what these Israeli bastards did to Gaza with US and British support.
Evil <deleted>.
Also note how the majority would have gleefully sent unquaccinated people to concerntration camps during the 2020-2022 panicdemic.

Whoever runs the biggest empire is usually the biggest bastard.
Americans have swallowed their own props but have been the BIGGEST bastards since at least 1946.
Never mind the Germans - Many of the occupying Americans were rapists and murderers - Russians raped and pillaged on a mass scale too.

Re: American & British bastardry in Germany after WW2:

"Eisenhower's Death Camps" from the Canadian magazine Saturday Night, September 1989

Full article: https://archive.org/details/EisenhowersDeathCamps_201502/mode/1up

You are mixing real Allied crimes with claims that are much harder to support. Yes, American and Soviet soldiers committed rape, murder and abuse. No argument there. But that does not make the Eisenhower death camp theory true.

Given the chaos after the war, shortages of food, medicine and resources, and the mental state of soldiers who had just come through years of brutal war, my best guess is those camps were no Sunday schools either.

On 8/16/2026 at 10:07 AM, harvardgrad said:

Germany and Japan are very strange now, two countries peaceful on the surface but a fierce war between the sexes.

And now look at this current war between the nationalist countries, US Israel Russia vs the globalist western countries that are all accepting Chinese hegemony.

Imagine how strange these globalist countries will be in the future when things go to <deleted> like the last time. It will be like Germany and Japan now except with open borders. Germany by the way being one of those countries, so they will be hit with a double whammy. Japanese men have managed to keep their women safe but they themselves can't even deal with their own women anyways so they're not much better off atm in terms of continuing their civilization

There is a “war between the sexes”

False. Exaggeration.

“Fierce” war--Unsupported.

Total distraction from a mysogenist society...Saudi women need a man's permission to do almost anything.

Adult women in Germany and Japan do not. 👈

Divorce rights, child custody rights, no separation right, no right to escape an abusive family situation, no legal autonomy within marriage, no right to

challenge gender discrimination through activism, etc etc

The Jolly rancher here is very much enjoying your Caveman Who Was Rich Enough to Buy His Way Into an American Ivy League School school of artistic expression.

There is something wonderfully primordial about it: civilisation briefly encountered, examined, and rejected in favour of shouting across the cave.

It has all the intellectual refinement of a man who discovered “meritocracy” twelve minutes ago and now wields it as a blunt instrument.

One particularly admires the juxtaposition of inherited SA privilege and performative self-reliance—the aristocratic survivalist who outsourced both hunting and gathering.

Impressed. 👈

And, purely in the spirit of anthropological inquiry: Do you beat your wife often, or is that reserved for visiting faculty? 😄

2 hours ago, nick supreme said:

Do you believe they are related?

The jewish guy on here got his user name from the jewish mass murderer of Russian Christians.
Whould be the equiv of u selecting the username 'Hitler'

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Yes, American and Soviet soldiers committed rape, murder and abuse. No argument there. But that does not make the Eisenhower death camp theory true.

Doesn't make it false - Read & DYOR rather than kneejek 'mY teAm g00d' / The g00D gUyS won'.

"We fought the wrong enemy. In 50 years I fear there will be corruption and degeneracy everywhere" - General Patton ✅

"if Germany loses this war, Europe will not even last 100 years" - AH ✅

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Given the chaos after the war, shortages of food, medicine and resources, and the mental state of soldiers who had just come through years of brutal war, my best guess is those camps were no Sunday schools either.

There is plenty of evidence of the US/British atrocities.
If they weren't up to no good, why did the bastard Eisenhower create a new category for surrendered ('Disarmed Enemy Forces (DEFs') instead of Prisoners of War (POWs)?

They should have been given protection under the 1929 Geneva Convention as POWs but instead were treated like <deleted> and starved to death under the new classifcation. The British did the same reclassification BS to circumvent the rules / allow starvation.

A lot of other other people (inc jews) probably starved to death too since fighting a 2 front war doesn't allow much time or resource for gassing millions of people (as claimed) - Let's not forget that cremation requires a LOT of fuel / energy so gassing and burning millions is a huuuuuge claim - esp with no hard evidence.

So much BS floating around brainwashed boomer brains re: WW2.
Luckily younger generations are looking at the claims with a more sceptical eye and are actively 'j holly spell-breaking' in the light of the Gaza genocide and access to data sources which have previously been hidden or lost (eg, the Montel clip below).

jewsih guy Devid Cole questioning the numbers - can you or anyone make the 6M number make sense?:

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by Tourist2

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8 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Doesn't make it false - Read & DYOR rather than kneejek 'mY teAm g00d'

There is plenty of evidence of the US/British atrocities.
If they weren't up to no good, why did the bastard Eisenhower create a new category for surrendered ('Disarmed Enemy Forces (DEFs') instead of Prisoners of War (POWs)?

They should have been given protection under the 1929 Geneva Convention as POWs but instead were treated like <deleted> and starved to death under the new classifcation. The British did the same reclassification BS to circumvent the rules / allow starvation.

A lot of other other people (inc jews) probably starved to death too since fighting a 2 front war doesn't allow much time or resource for gassing millions of people (as claimed) - Let's not forget that cremation requires a LOT of fuel / energy so gassing and burning millions is a huuuuuge claim - esp with no hard evidence.

So much BS floating around brainwashed boomer brains re: WW2.
Luckily younger generations are looking at the claims with a more sceptical eye and are actively 'j holly spell-breaking' in the light of the Gaza genocide and access to data sources which have previously been hidden or lost (eg, the Montel clip below).

jewsih guy Devid Cole questioning the numbers - can you or anyone make the 6M number make sense?:

You are mixing a real postwar POW controversy with Holocaust denial now. Six million Jews were not all gassed and cremated. Many were shot, starved, buried in mass graves or burned in open pits. This is getting tiresome.

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Six million Jews were not all gassed and cremated. Many were shot, starved, buried in mass graves or burned in open pits.

More spurious claims - Making it up as you go along with zero sources / proof.
TBHI find conversing with you tiresome.

Keep your fairytales if they make you feel better but anyone with a genuine interest or curiosity has access to data which prove the claims are largely horse <deleted>.

Onve all u brainwashed boomers are all dead (15-20 years tops) the truth will be widely acknowledged and accepted. Good Night and GL.

12 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

More spurious claims - Making it up as you go along with zero sources / proof.
TBHI find conversing with you tiresome.

Keep your fairytales if they make you feel better but anyone with a genuine interest or curiosity has access to data which prove the claims are largely horse <deleted>.

Onve all u brainwashed boomers are all dead (15-20 years tops) the truth will be widely acknowledged and accepted. Good Night and GL.

You still have not shown what I made up. Saying “zero proof”, “brainwashed boomers” and “fairytales” is not evidence either. The whole world is built on familiar realities and accepted truths, and somehow you are one of the few who truly cracked the code. Makes you special, doesn’t it?

👏😁

17 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

So it was 4M allegedly gassed at the beginning of the 1990s, later reduced *officially to 1.1M
BUT they still insist on the 6M total figure????
Can you see how people doubt this ?
Esp to anyone considering their expulsions from 109 nation states (pls don't tell me every time it was for nothing).??

Yes, indeed the numbers are still up for debate. Personally I think the leftwing German author Fritjof Meyer made a persuasive case for 500,000 in OstEuropa.

Of course there were lies told about the Holocaust. Just think lampshades, however, ultimately it did happen, and whether 4 or 6 million or 2 million died, is not really going to change that.

If you want to know the truth about the holocaust, you have to read the transcripts of Irving's London trial.

In the closing statement Irving said:

"I have always accepted that Adolf Hitler, as Head of State

and government in Germany, was responsible for the

Holocaust. I said, in the Introduction to my flagship

biography, Hitler’s War (this is a reference to the 1991

edition):

If this biography were simply a history of the

rise and fall of Hitler’s Reich, it would be legitimate to

conclude: “Hitler killed the Jews”. But my years of

investigations suggested that many others were

responsible, that the chain of responsibility was not as

clear cut as that. "

...but I now continue with the various

narratives of the Nazi shooting of the Jews in the East.

There is little dispute between the parties on

what actually happened in my view. This is the shootings

of the Jews in the East by the Nazis and their

collaborators.

Of course, I do accept that there were gassings on

a small scale at Auschwitz in the buildings identified as

bunkers I and II which were houses which have since been

torn down."

https://www.hdot.org/day32/#

So Irving did accept that gassings did happen at Auschwitz, his contention was that more people died from natural and other causes, not from gassing.

All the transcripts from the trial are in the above link. They contain a superb summary of the holocaust, as the team led by Rampton assembled a 20 man expert team to rebutt Irving's claims.