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Look what happened to the losing side in the worlds last war..

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1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

normal folks think about it rationally. jew haters dont

It's certainly not normal to want to eradicate a whole nation with a nuclear device.

But it is understandable if you're jewish and talking about Germany, since Germans did exterminate Jews like street dogs.

I totally understand the fear and hatred.

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2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

It's certainly not normal to want to eradicate a whole nation with a nuclear device.

But it is understandable if you're jewish and talking about Germany, since Germans did exterminate Jews like street dogs.

I totally understand the fear and hatred.

lol. i said it in the context of ww2. we should have. the japnese learned to be good, germans are still a bunch of barbaric scum. we just didt kill enough

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23 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I do agree there's a very long history in that region that led up to the aggression that we saw in the 20th century in Asia, however no amount of reasoning or justification can explain the March of Bataan, or the Rape of Nanking. That was cruelty, sadism and horror inflicted on a level rarely seen in the last few centuries.

An interesting study would be what compelled the Imperial Japanese Navy and the Third Reich to behave in such a spectacularly horrific manner.

My grandfather was a prisoner of Japan, captured at Singapore. Yes, badly treated, ended up in Taiwan.

Japan of the 1930s was based on a fake culture. Modern Japan didn't exist until the 1880s and that was when Bushido was created. To create the modern state, Japanese soldiers had to be loyal to the Emperor, and not the Shogun. During WW1, Japan wanted to be part of the international order, as an equal. Western troops were admired; German POWs were treated as honourable soldiers. Some even decided to stay on in Japan. During the descent of the world order in the 1920s, the military decided they didn't like the International order, and the 19th Century code of Bushido was distorted to means all soldiers should have absolute loyalty to their master, and loyalty was valued more than life. So the POWs were genuinely seen as scum by the camp guard. The camp guards were mostly ethnic Koreans and Taiwanese Chinese, who were promised Japanese citizen if they were loyal soldiers.

The brutality the POWs suffered was not particularly unusual when you have captors regarding you as subhuman. It doesn't take much for people you would assume were civilised to act uncivilised. Not only the Germans, but the Vietnamese. I'm sure many Americans enjoy holidays in modern day Vietnam, and probably can't fathom why the American POWs were treated so badly. Yugoslavia fell apart in just a couple of years, following fiery speeches at a Serbian union rally. Within a few years, the Serbs had turned sniping into a literal sport, and were running death camps straight out of WW2. We were genuinely shocked how such a thing could occur, among people we thought were pretty similar to us. And then in Iraq, some prison guards really let the side down in the way they treated prisoners at Abu Ghraib. In Afghanistan, it was long before reports of troops collecting body parts as trophies/proof of death, and of course reports of actual warcrimes (which some people coming out with excuses that we wouldn't have tolerated in WW2)/ We can all descend into the jungle pretty quickly; with the right conditioning. Russian soldiers, who might have been on holiday a few years earlier in Thailand, were laughing when cutting the knackers off Ukrainian POWs, despite the line from Russia that they were all really Russian.

On 8/17/2026 at 8:36 AM, Lacessit said:

Back in the sixties, I was working with both Germans and Japanese on a mining project.

The attitudes were markedly different. The Germans, referred to as the Fourth Reich behind their backs, were still p!ssed off they lost, and still thought of themselves as the master race. The Japanese had the attitude we had a war, we lost, move on.

Perhaps guilt developed in succeeding generations. I never saw it.

We had a German working with us in the Pilbara in the 1979's. Good bloke and great sense of humour. I'd tease him about losing two wars and he replied I was an idiot and it is best out of five.

3 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

My grandfather was a prisoner of Japan, captured at Singapore. Yes, badly treated, ended up in Taiwan.

Japan of the 1930s was based on a fake culture. Modern Japan didn't exist until the 1880s and that was when Bushido was created. To create the modern state, Japanese soldiers had to be loyal to the Emperor, and not the Shogun. During WW1, Japan wanted to be part of the international order, as an equal. Western troops were admired; German POWs were treated as honourable soldiers. Some even decided to stay on in Japan. During the descent of the world order in the 1920s, the military decided they didn't like the International order, and the 19th Century code of Bushido was distorted to means all soldiers should have absolute loyalty to their master, and loyalty was valued more than life. So the POWs were genuinely seen as scum by the camp guard. The camp guards were mostly ethnic Koreans and Taiwanese Chinese, who were promised Japanese citizen if they were loyal soldiers.

The brutality the POWs suffered was not particularly unusual when you have captors regarding you as subhuman. It doesn't take much for people you would assume were civilised to act uncivilised. Not only the Germans, but the Vietnamese. I'm sure many Americans enjoy holidays in modern day Vietnam, and probably can't fathom why the American POWs were treated so badly. Yugoslavia fell apart in just a couple of years, following fiery speeches at a Serbian union rally. Within a few years, the Serbs had turned sniping into a literal sport, and were running death camps straight out of WW2. We were genuinely shocked how such a thing could occur, among people we thought were pretty similar to us. And then in Iraq, some prison guards really let the side down in the way they treated prisoners at Abu Ghraib. In Afghanistan, it was long before reports of troops collecting body parts as trophies/proof of death, and of course reports of actual warcrimes (which some people coming out with excuses that we wouldn't have tolerated in WW2)/ We can all descend into the jungle pretty quickly; with the right conditioning. Russian soldiers, who might have been on holiday a few years earlier in Thailand, were laughing when cutting the knackers off Ukrainian POWs, despite the line from Russia that they were all really Russian.

Agreed. The human race can be quite barbaric. Just more evidence to add to the theory that our race is moving backwards, not forward.

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

germans are still a bunch of barbaric scum

They are? How so? They seem like an obdient pack of pro-American and pro-Israeli dogs now.

Mostly socialists.

Modern Japan didn't exist until the 1880s and that was when Bushido was created

Really? You may want to read the book Kokon Bushidō ezukushi , written in 1685.

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Agreed. The human race can be quite barbaric. Just more evidence to add to the theory that our race is moving backwards, not forward.

evidenced by your political views

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

evidenced by your political views

Just as your pointless reply is!

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Just as your pointless reply is!

my pointless reply is evidence of barbarity? got it

do you practice stupidity or is it an inherent talent?

On 8/16/2026 at 10:32 AM, FinChin67 said:

Japan 1.14

Sub-Saharan Africa ~4.1–4.2

This would explain the videos of 4 African men and 1 Japanese woman.

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Germans did exterminate Jews like street dogs.

Not only Germans. 🙂

On 8/16/2026 at 11:36 PM, Lacessit said:

The Germans... still thought of themselves as the master race.

On 8/17/2026 at 4:14 AM, Cameroni said:

Germans are highly intelligent, all intelligent people are very dangerous
Japanese too are strange, not because of guilt, but because they are so intelligent.

On 8/16/2026 at 10:56 PM, spidermike007 said:

That was cruelty, sadism and horror inflicted on a level rarely seen in the last few centuries.



Not as dangerous as idiots (see how most people acted during coldvid).

TBF to the Germans and Japanese they have strong claims to being master races. Their contributions to mankind have been outsized.

REMEMBER: Both Germany and Japan are STILL vassell states with very little autonomy - still ruled by emergency statutes since WW2. The EU itself was funded by the precursor to the CIA (the OSS) so is also a vassell hence the suicidal (to the white races) policies - not to mention the nonsensical war against the Russians (to finance US gas sales and weapons compnaies / the MIA).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/

As for cruelty Mike, His Story is written by the winners.
Russians raped Germany raw after WW2.
The Americans and British starved millions of German to death after WW2.
Mao in China stiull gets a good rap. Henrik Yagoda ('Russian' Bolshevik jew - biggest mass murderer in history) is seldom mentioned - most have never even heard of him.
The British/Bomber Harris mass murder of civilians in Dresden.
What Israel has just been doing to the Palestinians in Gaza.
HAPPENS ALL THE <deleted> TIME.

The Morgenthau (the Jewish US Foreign Secretary) Plan involved replacing the German population and turning the country into a potato farm - seems to have taken a while but is reaching fruition





1 hour ago, Packer said:

Not only Germans. 🙂


21 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Germans did exterminate Jews like street dogs.


Allegedly. Never heard of people gassing street dogs with delouser but OK.
No bodies to substantiate the numbers - no piles of ash either (and yes, people did look - extensively).
Great marketing though.

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Just now, Tourist2 said:



No bodies to substantiate the numbers - no piles of ash either (and yes, people did look - extensively).
Great marketing though.

Yeah all that doctored video that was released in 1945 before there was any such thing as CGI. And all those I witness accounts of the thousands of soldiers who entered the many extermination camps must have been coerced.

Talk about living in denial and an alternate reality. Are you by any chance of white supremacist? Or a proud boy?

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yeah all that doctored video that was released in 1945 before there was any such thing as CGI. And all those I witness accounts of the thousands of soldiers who entered the many extermination camps must have been coerced.

Talk about living in denial and an alternate reality. Are you by any chance of white supremacist? Or a proud boy?


Neither though the white race has made outsized contributions to mankind so if any race are supreme I think you'd have to say the whites.

I realise that the holocauset claims sre a massive part of your identity but doesn't mean it happened as described - we both live in countries where we're allowed to question the claims and, if your honest, you'll admit that many of them are pretty ridiculous.

Don't believe all the testimonies you see on TV or read about.

Meanwhile the BBC did a documentary on the intentional starvation of German civilians after WW2

If you dig, there are so many stories like this....




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4 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


Neither though the white race has made outsized contributions to mankind so if any race are supreme I think you'd have to say the whites.

I realise that the holocauset claims sre a massive part of your identity but doesn't mean it happened as described - we both live in countries where we're allowed to question the claims and, if your honest, you'll admit that many of them are pretty ridiculous.

Don't believe all the testimonies you see on TV or read about.

Meanwhile the BBC did a documentary on the intentional starvation of German civilians after WW2

If you dig, there are so many stories like this....




Believe me I am somebody who questions most official narratives but denying the Holocaust is simply a bridge too far, as there's way too much proof.

29 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:



Allegedly. Never heard of people gassing street dogs with delouser but OK.
No bodies to substantiate the numbers - no piles of ash either (and yes, people did look - extensively).
Great marketing though.

6 metric tonnes of Zyklon B was used at Auschwitz-Birkenau for fumigation. 18 metric tonnes were used to murder 1.1 million people. The ash ponds at the camp have been preserved.

You are one sick puppy to be posting this garbage.

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Believe me I am somebody who questions most official narratives but denying the Holocaust is simply a bridge too far, as there's way too much proof.


I don't think there is (proof) - just a bunch of claims. Numbers don't add up though
Hard evidence? A Pile of shoes.

Not saying no jews died but Germans are famously efficient so - if Aush' etc. really were death camps it doesn't make sense how so many jews claim they survived multiple 'death camps'.

I note that you chose to go 'denier denier denier! mode and ignored all of the other points made in my response to you:

As for cruelty Mike, His Story is written by the winners.
Russians raped Germany raw after WW2.
The Americans and British starved millions of German to death after WW2.
Mao in China stiull gets a good rap. Henrik Yagoda ('Russian' Bolshevik jew - biggest mass murderer in history) is seldom mentioned - most have never even heard of him.
The British/Bomber Harris mass murder of civilians in Dresden.
Millions of Idians intentioanlly starved to death by the 'British'
What Israel has just been doing to the Palestinians in Gaza.
HAPPENS ALL THE <deleted> TIME.

Any comment on those or is it all about YOU and the usual perma-victims!?

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

6 metric tonnes of Zyklon B was used at Auschwitz-Birkenau for fumigation. 18 metric tonnes were used to murder 1.1 million people. The ash ponds at the camp have been preserved.


6 of this, 6 of that and 6 of the other?
Ash ponds? Ash is soluable so that wouldn't work.
Where do you get this stuff from???

Aushwitz numbers were changed from 4M to 1M (still a wild claim) in the 90s.
However, the number was NEVER revised down from the beloved 6M.
Can you explain the maths?

Meanwhile IRL:

Screenshot 2026-08-18 at 15.15.05.png

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1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

by emergency statutes since WW2. The EU itself was funded by the precursor to the CIA (the OSS) so is also a vassell hence the suicidal (to the white races) policies - not to mention the nonsensical war against the Russians (to finance US gas sales and weapons compnaies / the MIA).
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/

As for cruelty Mike, His Story is written by the winners.
Russians raped Germany raw after WW2.
The Americans and British starved millions of German to death after WW2.
Mao in China stiull gets a good rap. Henrik

Up to the individual studying history to see who was more evil between yagoda and Stalin. Same with hitler

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14 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


6 of this, 6 of that and 6 of the other?
Ash ponds? Ash is soluable so that wouldn't work.
Where do you get this stuff from???

Aushwitz numbers were changed from 4M to 1M (still a wild claim) in the 90s.
However, the number was NEVER revised down from the beloved 6M.
Can you explain the maths?

Meanwhile IRL:

Screenshot 2026-08-18 at 15.15.05.png

Why do you feel the need to convince yourself this didn't happen ? All the evidences is there, and somehow you found better evidences?

22 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


Ash ponds? Ash is soluable so that wouldn't work.


I get it from touring the Holocaust memorial at Elephant and Castle.

Only the alkali metal component of ash is water soluble. Residual carbon and bone is not.

18 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I get it from touring the Holocaust memorial at Elephant and Castle.

Only the alkali metal component of ash is water soluble. Residual carbon and bone is not.


No residual carbon and bone - Even if there was how would you know it was jewish
And 'Holocaust memorial at Elephant and Castle.'??

WTF?
Been to Disneyland too? = believe Mickey Mouse is real?

Have to hand it to them - they ARE good at marketing (eg. WMDs in Iraq) - in case you didn't already watch:

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33 minutes ago, harvardgrad said:

Up to the individual studying history to see who was more evil between yagoda and Stalin. Same with hitler


For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history.

Funny how famously jewish hollywood stays silent on Yagoda's murder of millions of white christians though isn't it?
(see cartoon above).

I don't want to get in between you or mikes german taxpayer funded h0locAust surver rapper rations but come on - can you guys ever lose the perma victim BS. Esp. in the light of what your people have done / are doing in Gaza - an actual genuine, properly documented genocide?

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1 minute ago, Tourist2 said:


For sheer numbers the jewsih Yagoda was the most prolific mass murderer in history.

Funny how famously jewish hollywood stays silent on Yagoda's murder of millions of white christians though isn't it?
(see cartoon above).

I don't want to get in between you or mikes german taxpayer funded h0locAust surver rapper rations but come on - can you guys ever lose the perma victim BS. Esp. in the light of what your people have done / are doing in Gaza - an actual genuine, properly documented genocide?

No matter how hard you push your opinion, doesn't change history or the present. Doesn't change what the history of communism is either. The United States will be the last country that forgets, even though its the newest

39 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Why do you feel the need to convince yourself this didn't happen ? All the evidences is there, and somehow you found better evidences?


What hard evidence? is there (beyond the shoes)?
A bunch of fake testimonies with a financial interest (holly reparations)?
Show trial testimonies under duress?

Anything real?

They had to reprogram the AI after it looked at the hard numbers:

Grok on the Hollow.jpeg

16 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


What hard evidence? is there (beyond the shoes)?
A bunch of fake testimonies with a financial interest (holly reparations)?
Show trial testimonies under duress?

Anything real?

They had to reprogram the AI after it looked at the hard numbers:

Grok on the Hollow.jpeg

So your proof is a Grok calculation based on the idea that all six million were cremated at Auschwitz like in a modern crematorium? They were shot, gassed, hanged, starved, burned and buried across occupied Europe. You have disproved a claim nobody made.

31 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:


What hard evidence? is there (beyond the shoes)?
A bunch of fake testimonies with a financial interest (holly reparations)?
Show trial testimonies under duress?

Anything real?

They had to reprogram the AI after it looked at the hard numbers:

Grok on the Hollow.jpeg

Believe me, I had my own doubts. Then the David Irving trial came. I read the transcript every day of the proceedings. I worked in the City at the time. Like you, David Irving honestly doubted the Holocaust narrative, and I did too.

However, the trial invited experts, who put evidence before Irving, which led him to change to his mind.

At his 2006 criminal trial in Vienna, Austria, David Irving claimed he changed his mind about the Holocaust after reviewing the personal files and diaries of Adolf Eichmann, which became available in 1991–1992. Based on this, Irving pleaded guilty to the charges, stating he now accepted that the Nazis killed millions of Jews and that gas chambers did exist.

However, at the London trial Irving had changed his mind again and thought gas chambers did not exist. Then came van Pelt's testimony. Architectural historian Robert Jan van Pelt presented comprehensive blueprint and forensic evidence. This included Crematorium Modifications. Original blueprints showing the structural conversion of Birkenau’s underground mortuaries into gas chambers. Zyklon B Delivery Systems. Documentation of the ventilation and induction columns used to introduce and rapidly extract lethal gas.

David Irving conceded he was wrong and that the gas chambers existed.

However, regarding the numbers there is of course still debate. In 2002, the left wing journalist Fritjof Meyer published a highly controversial article in the academic journal Osteuropa, where he claimed that approximately 510,000 people were murdered at Auschwitz. The main consenus places the figure much higher, at 1.1 million.

Either way, the gas chambers were real. The Final Solution was real, in the sense of the Einsatzgruppen targeting and killing jews. This all happened. I had my doubts too, trust me. I don't anymore.

On 8/17/2026 at 5:14 AM, Cameroni said:

I spent a while in Germany, I wouldn't say they are filled with excessive guilt, barring a small minority of ultra left who put up banners "Bomber Harris do it again". One shouldn't mistake a coterie of politicians, small in number, that were groomed by the Atlantikbruecke to affect German guilt and publicly proclaim it, as the people. Israel of course shamelessly abused whatever guilt there was and extracted billions of USD on that basis from Germany, but deep down the majority of Germans do not feel guilty in the slightest. And why should they? The crimes of WWII were committed by a tiny minority of Germans, only 100,000 at most.

Germany is a strange place though. Very polite people on the surface, but with a capacity to let the blonde beast hang out, and certainly no way near as friendly as Thais, or even Americans, or Brits. That's probably because Germans are highly intelligent, all intelligent people are very dangerous. Chinese and Vietnamese and Japanese too are strange, not because of guilt, but because they are so intelligent.

After WW2, the Germans did not talk about the lost war (the silent generation). But todays German generation want to know what their grandparents did during this time. Today, the many German Television stations feature a great number of documentaries that lay open what really happenened during this time. With no rose coloured glasses.

By asking their grandparents, one thing seems to become clear: What the "war/after war" generation of Germans regretted the most was the fact that they lost the war.

This can not come as a surprise, as 95% of Germans back then supported Hitler. Until the bitter end.

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