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The curiously awkward geopolitical situation of US expats in Thailand

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Lefties living in Thailand are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. Doesn't matter if they are American, Brits or whatever.

They criticize our own countries, imploring them to be more left wing/liberal/progressive while reaping the rewards of living in a largely homogenous, socially conservative, nationalistic, patriotic country with strict immigration laws that are largely well enforced.

Fortunately I hardly ever meet them as I don't hang out in cheap, seedy bars, plus they're very easy to spot as they are usually talking loudly about Trump. If they start talking to me and assuming I agree with them (they tend to think everyone does) I am very quick to bluntly remind them of their hypocrisy. It's pretty low risk to do this as most of them are soy boys.

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  • blaze master
    blaze master

    Many american expats living in thailand who are left learning are total hypocrites.

  • HolmesEquivelant
    HolmesEquivelant

    @Jingthing appreciated you chiming in for the reach around effect. I certainly hope you return that favor. After all, what are liberal buddies for. You left out one very important point. You said

  • Jingthing
    Jingthing

    The majority American positions I described are not keftist. They are very much mainstrean.

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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Lefties living in Thailand are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. Doesn't matter if they are American, Brits or whatever.

They criticize our own countries, imploring them to be more left wing/liberal/progressive while reaping the rewards of living in a largely homogenous, socially conservative, nationalistic, patriotic country with strict immigration laws that are largely well enforced.

Fortunately I hardly ever meet them as I don't hang out in cheap, seedy bars, plus they're very easy to spot as they are usually talking loudly about Trump. If they start talking to me and assuming I agree with them (they tend to think everyone does) I am very quick to bluntly remind them of their hypocrisy. It's pretty low risk to do this as most of them are soy boys.

If you're American and you don't criticize Trump you're a moron.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

If you're American and you don't criticize Trump you're a moron.

Thanks for demonstrating why I avoid your ilk.

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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Thanks for demonstrating why I avoid your ilk.

Glad to hear it.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Glad to hear it.

It's for the best.

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So you're saying you think it's the "bright" position to support Russia and North Korea? Got it.

No, you don't "got it." Now you want to drag North Korea into the argument? LOL Why don't you point out where I said anything about North Korea.

Propaganda is a powerful tool, and I see it has worked its wonders on you.

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49 minutes ago, jas007 said:

No, you don't "got it." Now you want to drag North Korea into the argument? LOL Why don't you point out where I said anything about North Korea.

Propaganda is a powerful tool, and I see it has worked its wonders on you.

If you read the OP you would know that North Korea is in argument!

I will break this down.

For whatever reason you've expressed opposition to Ukraine using the main tool they have to have a hope of repelling Russia.

Bringing the war home to Russia.

So you are favoring Russia over Ukraine as you're against Ukraine defending themselves.

How does NK fit in?

Broadly and easily.

NK is providing direct arms and slaves to murder Ukrainians.

You support Russia -- you support NK.

NK is Russia's closest ally in their war.

You have good company.

The current American president perverted corrupt grifter as he is also favors Russia over Ukraine and North Korea over South Korea.

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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

If you're American and you don't criticize Trump you're a moron.

And if you are obsessed with hating Trump, and criticize everything he says and does, you are a moron.

I've criticized some of what Trump has done and applaud some of what Trump has done.

4 hours ago, Wingate said:

What you call personal insults is just me pointing out the patently obvious.

Trump even said it himself:

"I love the poorly educated" (2016)

"Smart people don't like me." (2025)

As for personal insults, you might want to scroll through Trump's Truth Social posts. You might also Google the last few dozen Q&A of Trump in the Oval Office. Many people are saying he is the most prolific "insulter" ever.

Great deflection. Take responsibility for the things YOU say and don't always default to but but but trump.

Its sad.

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And if you are obsessed with hating Trump, and criticize everything he says and does, you are a moron.

I've criticized some of what Trump has done and applaud some of what Trump has done.

Every leader does good and stupid things. All of them, but Trump gets the attention because he's one of the major world leaders and the US is a superpower some won't admit. They dismiss things he's done that have helped and harp on others, especially this conflict. One main reason I stay in the middle and wait until the tenure is done before I judge, as I've done all along. Taking extreme sides can blind some.

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'm one of them and it's rather hard to make heads or tails of it.

First to define typical American in the context of today's dramatically volatile geopolitical situation.

The vast majority of Americans oppose Trump's war of choice against Iran.

The vast majority of Americans support Ukraine rather than Russia in the war there.

The vast majority of Americans support South Korea rather than North Korean.

The vast majority of Americans while recognizing the rise of China do naturally want their own country to hold on to a good amount of global power and influence

So take that "typical" American and put him into Thailand.

Americans in Thailand generally have good will towards the host country as far as their prospects for peace and prosperity even acknowledging that many benefit from geographical arbitrage between the costs of living between the USA and Thailand.

Good enough so far but now it gets a bit sticky (rice).

Thailand wants to have good relations with Russia, China, and the US.

Thailand is neutral on the Russia Ukraine war.

There is more than a zero chance that war will erupt between the US and China in the foreseeable future over Taiwan. Thailand is a land in Asia. It's not hard to imagine that it would be hard for Thailand to be fully neutral if that happens. Then what happens to Americans here, if anything?

Recently to balance the supply chain crisis from the Middle East directly caused by a war of choice by the American president, Thailand signed up for a deal to buy big supplies of energy from EASTERN Russia.

That is viable as EASTERN Russia is currently out of range of Ukrainian drones and also the travel time from there to Thailand is close enough to work.

Nobody can fairly blame Thailand for protecting their energy security in this way especially as they are blameless in the problem that pushed them to this.

However, the typical American expat in Thailand supports Ukraine eventually hitting ALL of Russia's energy supplies and ALL would logically include those in the far east of Russia bound for Thailand (if it is ever possible) and ALSO as any person living in any country wants to live in a country with a secure energy supply.

Do you see the contradiction?

Perhaps this will be a moot point as Ukraine might never get to the point of being able to send drones that far. But they might.

On top of that typical Americans have to somehow manage to digest having a president who often looks to be working for the enemies of the US rather than our allies. Enemies -- Russia, North Korea, Iran. Allies -- Ukraine, South Korea, Canada, Western Europe, Japan, etc.

North Korea supplies arms and slaves for Russia to help kill Ukrainians yet the American president expresses love for their leader, and trashes South Korea.

I don't have any answers for this. I posted this just as a matter of discussion about the curiously awkward geopolitical situation of American expats in Thailand.

You forgot the Israel-Palestine conflict. Where do "most Americans" stand on that?

To make your opinion into real world change remember to vote this autumn. If your voter registration has lapsed you can start the process to register at fvap.gov.

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55 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And if you are obsessed with hating Trump, and criticize everything he says and does, you are a moron.

I've criticized some of what Trump has done and applaud some of what Trump has done.

You mean something like saying Mussolini kept the trains running on time?

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25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You forgot the Israel-Palestine conflict. Where do "most Americans" stand on that?

Internationally left out because I didn't think it fit with the theme.

If the topic was about the geopolitical position of Israelis in Thailand, that would be different.

Also in the context of this forum, we need yet another topic where people are going to argue about the Palestinian -- Israeli conflict like we need a hole in the head.

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5 minutes ago, mudcat said:

To make your opinion into real world change remember to vote this autumn. If your voter registration has lapsed you can start the process to register at fvap.gov.

No, I'm sure we'd both like the trains to run on time. I like much of what Trump's done, that you don't like.

Where do "most Americans" stand on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

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1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

No, I'm sure we'd both like the trains to run on time. I like much of what Trump's done, that you don't like.

Where do "most Americans" stand on the Israel-Palestinian conflict?

Answered above.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Answered above.

That was deflection, not an answer.

I any event, it's nice that there is at least one topic you don't toe the leftist line on.

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

That was deflection, not an answer.

I any event, it's nice that there is at least one topic you don't toe the leftist line on.

It was definitely an answer.

You're brain is just so totally soaked in maga that you can't think logically.

The points weren't right and left.
They were mainstream.

The Israel Palestinian issue did not fit here!

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Internationally left out because I didn't think it fit with the theme.

If the topic was about the geopolitical position of Israelis in Thailand, that would be different.

Also in the context of this forum, we need yet another topic where people are going to argue about the Palestinian -- Israeli conflict like we need a hole in the head.

Yes let's pretend that's the reason you left it out.

Quite the predicament.

Just now, Jingthing said:

It was definitely an answer.

You're brain is just so totally soaked in maga that you can't think logically.

The points weren't right and left.
They were mainstream.

The Israel Palestinian issue did not fit here!

About the same number of people support Israel as support the war in Iran, how is the mainstream position support for Palestine?

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2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Yes let's pretend that's the reason you left it out.

Quite the predicament.

Read the OP if you haven't already and explain to me exactly how that would fit into the topic here?!?

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

About the same number of people support Israel as support the war in Iran, how is the mainstream position support for Palestine?

Stop your sleazy LYING!

I was not saying that about the Israel issue.

I am saying that about the issues clearly outlined in the OP.

You are such a TROLL!

I see what you're doing and its disgusting. You are trying to do a HOSTILE HIJACK of this topic.

Again if you want to discuss the Israel - Palestinian conflict, GO ELSEWHERE.

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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Read the OP if you haven't already and explain to me exactly how that would fit into the topic here?!?

Is Iran not tied to Russia and China?

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Read the OP if you haven't already and explain to me exactly how that would fit into the topic here?!?

You're asking a question you already know the answer to.

To paraphrase. Your brain is so soaked in extreme left super maga you can't think logically.

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Thanks for demonstrating why I avoid your ilk.

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

It's for the best.

You sure have a funny way of avoiding his "ilk".😆

Just now, Jingthing said:

Stop your sleazy LYING!for

I was not saying that about the Israel issue.

I am saying that about the issues clearly outlined in the OP.

You are such a TROLL!

Say what? I know you support Israel, as do I, but support for Palestine is the mainstream position, particularly on the left.

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

Say what? I know you support Israel, as do I, but support for Palestine is the mainstream position, particularly on the left.

OFF TOPIC

OFF TOPIC

OFF TOPIC


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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is Iran not tied to Russia and China?

Yes.

You didn't read the thread, did you?
Just here to troll.

PESTS BE GONE.

Can I just say a big 'congrats' to the Americans on this forum who are about to gain an astounding number of new compatriots of Persian and Arab origin.

Well done!thumbsup

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4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Can I just say a big 'congrats' to the Americans on this forum who are about to gain an astounding number of new compatriots of Persian and Arab origin.

Well done!thumbsup

Yeah and when the democrats take power, the name will be changed to the Gays of Howmuz.

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