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1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

War has deaths and injuries. Iran's suffered quite a bit more, especially towards their own people by them.

Iran's leaders said death to USA. That's a threat, especially after seeing their history against us and other nations. Terrorists have only one place, and that's elimination so the rest of us can have peace.

Trump is out there, but the other presidents only fed Iran and they still kept killing. A country with sociopaths in charge enriching uranium cannot be trusted. They aren't like the US. Israel has their own agenda. Some have to be put in their place so others can be safe.

Trump is not a sociopath but a malignant narcissist. Iran's leaders are sociopaths. You speak up there and want to change the regime, they hang, torture and shoot you. Unless you threaten the president, they can't do anything to you.You appoint a maniac there he's in charge for life. In the US they're gone in 4 years and can be impeached.

I will take Mary Trump's version of Trump over yours. She is a clinical psychologist, AFAIK you are not.

Quote:

1. Antisocial Personality Disorder: Marked by a chronic disregard for rules, social norms, and the rights of others, along with a lack of remorse or empathy.

2. Dependent Personality Disorder: Reflected in an underlying inability to function independently without constant validation and sycophantic reinforcement.

3. Undiagnosed Learning/Sleep Disorders: Impairments that hinder his ability to process complex information, learn new facts, or maintain cognitive focus.

No argument from me Iran's leaders are sociopaths or even psychopaths. My point is they were only a threat to Israel, now they are a threat to everybody, and that is down to Trump. When Mary Trump says Trump's ability to process complex information is hindered, the Strait of Hormuz is a good example. A fifth-grader could have seen Iran would be asserting control.

The real problem is negotiations are going to be futile while Trump is in the White House. If someone killed my family and friends without warning, then wanted to make nice, I would be telling them to screw themselves too.

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I will take Mary Trump's version of Trump over yours. She is a clinical psychologist, AFAIK you are not.

Quote:

1. Antisocial Personality Disorder: Marked by a chronic disregard for rules, social norms, and the rights of others, along with a lack of remorse or empathy.

2. Dependent Personality Disorder: Reflected in an underlying inability to function independently without constant validation and sycophantic reinforcement.

3. Undiagnosed Learning/Sleep Disorders: Impairments that hinder his ability to process complex information, learn new facts, or maintain cognitive focus.

No argument from me Iran's leaders are sociopaths or even psychopaths. My point is they were only a threat to Israel, now they are a threat to everybody, and that is down to Trump. When Mary Trump says Trump's ability to process complex information is hindered, the Strait of Hormuz is a good example. A fifth-grader could have seen Iran would be asserting control.

The real problem is negotiations are going to be futile while Trump is in the White House. If someone killed my family and friends without warning, then wanted to make nice, I would be telling them to screw themselves too.

Yes, I studied much the same things as she has. Trump, like many others, is an easy read, especially when he speaks. I haven't talked to Melania, so I'm not sure abut his sleeping situation.

The rest is quite true, seeing his billions are a product of his dads beginning donations and his friend's help in business matters.

Iran has all along been a threat to everyone, seeing how they helped others spread their own terrorism.

Trump isn't the only one making decisions. He has a lot of backing that goes along with things and feeds him much of his information. His ego is what takes it over for his manner of thinking and decision making.

Negotiations are always futile when you're dealing with terrorists, as their thinking is one sided and evil. They have to be threatened with violence.

Past history has shown them what America does to other terrorists, and only them wanting to stay alive will get them to negotiate. They don't care about anyone else.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, I studied much the same things as she has. Trump, like many others, is an easy read, especially when he speaks. I haven't talked to Melania, so I'm not sure abut his sleeping situation.

The rest is quite true, seeing his billions are a product of his dads beginning donations and his friend's help in business matters.

Iran has all along been a threat to everyone, seeing how they helped others spread their own terrorism.

Trump isn't the only one making decisions. He has a lot of backing that goes along with things and feeds him much of his information. His ego is what takes it over for his manner of thinking and decision making.

Negotiations are always futile when you're dealing with terrorists, as their thinking is one sided and evil. They have to be threatened with violence.

Past history has shown them what America does to other terrorists, and only them wanting to stay alive will get them to negotiate. They don't care about anyone else.

Past history has shown the Iranians the US can't finish what it starts. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran has a choke point, none of the others did.

You should check out what the British did in Malaysia, and the Australians did in East Timor. Neither started the conflict, but they certainly finished it.

19 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Severe ammunition shortages according to reports from the Pentagon. Particularly high-end interceptors and long range missiles are critically low. Trump and Hegseth nevertheless lied that ammunition not a problem.

Think about it for a moment .If you were fighting a war would you admit to your enemy that you were nearly out of ammo ?? Maybe Sleepy Joe would have but only if his autopen wrote him a letter to tell him.

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Past history has shown the Iranians the US can't finish what it starts. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran has a choke point, none of the others did.

You should check out what the British did in Malaysia, and the Australians did in East Timor. Neither started the conflict, but they certainly finished it.

They can finish but there are reasons they didn't. This isn't the past, and Trump isn't Bush, Obama, Biden or any others. That ego has him wanting to win, even though the costs might be high. All past wars have little to do with a new person in charge, new technology and Americans and other countries being tired of being victims of terrorism.

This isn't East Timor but a thousand times larger, involving not just a couple of countries but most everyone. Australia was originally for the conflict there, backing Indonesia in it's tyranny over the Timonese, but changed it's thinking, and with help from others, ended what was going on. The world's citizens were against them so they had to do something. The same thing's happening here, with America wanting to have relations with Iran, but them resisting change.That conflict was 24 years. This will end soon .

Edited Thursday at 12:56 AM5 days by fredwiggy

23 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

The idiocy is going on = making America proud (or not)

To add:

Trump floats renaming Strait of Hormuz the ‘Trump Strait’

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/02/trump-hormuz-strait-ontario-iran.html

23 hours ago, Lacessit said:

With what? American munitions are reportedly so depleted if China decides to invade Taiwan, the American military may not be able to prevent it.

And Putin can walk in EU.

Iran will strike in self defence, they fight for their freedom, not for their Ego.

That's the difference

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

They can finish but there are reasons they didn't. This isn't the past, and Trump isn't Bush, Obama, Biden or any others. That ego has him wanting to win, even though the costs might be high. All past wars have little to do with a new person in charge, new technology and Americans and other countries being tired of being victims of terrorism.

This isn't East Timor but a thousand times larger, involving not just a couple of countries but most everyone. Australia was originally for the conflict there, backing Indonesia in it's tyranny over the Timonese, but changed it's thinking, and with help from others, ended what was going on. The world's citizens were against them so they had to do something. The same thing's happening here, with America wanting to have relations with Iran, but them resisting change.That conflict was 24 years. This will end soon .

IIRC that was what Trump and Hegseth were saying six months ago.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC that was what Trump and Hegseth were saying six months ago.

When you have resistance to common sense, what can you do?

Bulldoze the White House!

Stop mail in ballots!

Iran?

No beef!

Only chicken 🐔

King of The Catering Truck

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

When you have resistance to common sense, what can you do?

Who needs the common sense more, Iran or America?

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Who needs the common sense more, Iran or America?

Iran to know when to surrender, for everyone's benefit. America, to vote in someone with the strength of Trump, and less ego that helps everyone where they need it, and not to make himself look better in certain people's eyes.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Iran to know when to surrender, for everyone's benefit. America, to vote in someone with the strength of Trump, and less ego that helps everyone where they need it, and not to make himself look better in certain people's eyes.

Too late for Bernie Sanders

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Too late for Bernie Sanders

These are the choices...........https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2028.

On 9/2/2026 at 8:16 AM, HolmesEquivelant said:

Time finish off the IRGC . They’ll never negotiate anything.

Never have , never will.

1 word and 4 letters, guess??? did you get it right, I will help you = TACO

On 9/2/2026 at 10:11 AM, HolmesEquivelant said:

the greatest military in the world. The U.S. military!!

that has been kicked in the rear by an army that has been "obliterated" 5 or 6 times and yet keeps kicking the US where it hurts

On 9/2/2026 at 10:29 AM, Cameroni said:

It is clear that economic sanctions will not win this war. If that were a good strategy it would have been used at the outset. Everyone knows sanctions take a long time to take effect. This use of sanctions is desperation, clearly.

This war against Iran has been a terrible mistake by Trump. Sure, he was cajoled into it by Israel, but he should have seen through this. Perhaps the US military will destroy Iran's civilian and military infrastructure. That is not going to stop them from rebuilding.

OMG ... I have to agree with you😅

Only a fool starts a fight without a well-thought out strategy to win. Only a bully starts something, hoping the other side will back down. Donald… they ain’t backing down, are they? And you have no idea how to win. Your boy fired all the top generals and admirals, so nobody left to steer the boat, and you clearly have no idea how to do it. Now you are making moves to stop free elections.

America is so screwed.

21 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, it shouldn't happen. Americans would die, and most of Iran's infantry also. This isn't the past though, the US having much more technology in weapons, intel and bombs that can kill thousands at one time without using nuclear. Again, if Iran cared about it's people and their futures, this would have already ended. It's going on too long and needs negotiation for everyone's benefit. Too costly. I also don't see Trump backing down with that ego.

Maybe. Maybe not. That ginormous ego of his as a history of getting him into trouble. With the midterms approaching he's looking at a potential slaughter and becoming doubly impotent come November. At that point his only option might be suicide resignation or?

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Iran to know when to surrender, for everyone's benefit. America, to vote in someone with the strength of Trump, and less ego that helps everyone where they need it, and not to make himself look better in certain people's eyes.

America and Israel were not existential threats to Iran. Now they are. As Ukraine has shown, when a people is faced with an existential threat, surrender is not an option.

It's the same for the Iranian IRGC, even though they do not represent Iranians.

On 9/2/2026 at 8:16 AM, HolmesEquivelant said:

Time finish off the IRGC . They’ll never negotiate anything.

Never have , never will.

To do that would mean boots on the ground and Donald is never going to do that,

at least until after the midterms ,no war has ever been won without putting soldiers

on the ground...

regards worgeordie

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

To do that would mean boots on the ground and Donald is never going to do that,

at least until after the midterms ,no war has ever been won without putting soldiers

on the ground...

regards worgeordie

You tend not to win them by bombing school children and weddings either. But the US is pretty good at it - I don't remember any recent war where they didn't hit at least a couple of wedding parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cm86xq9261xdt

26 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You tend not to win them by bombing school children and weddings either. But the US is pretty good at it - I don't remember any recent war where they didn't hit at least a couple of wedding parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cm86xq9261xdt

5 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

Is there a point to posting that?

On 9/2/2026 at 10:29 AM, Cameroni said:

It is clear that economic sanctions will not win this war. If that were a good strategy it would have been used at the outset. Everyone knows sanctions take a long time to take effect. This use of sanctions is desperation, clearly.

This war against Iran has been a terrible mistake by Trump. Sure, he was cajoled into it by Israel, but he should have seen through this. Perhaps the US military will destroy Iran's civilian and military infrastructure. That is not going to stop them from rebuilding.

I take exception, even maga have wild effects when a reality pill takes effect

On 9/3/2026 at 3:50 AM, josephbloggs said:

You tend not to win them by bombing school children and weddings either. But the US is pretty good at it - I don't remember any recent war where they didn't hit at least a couple of wedding parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cm86xq9261xdt

Under investigation. The school happened to be located on an IRGC base btw.

U.S. doesn’t target civilians. I’ll believe Admiral Cooper over you. My prerogative.

10 minutes ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

Under investigation. The school happened to be located on an IRGC base btw.

Lie. It hadn't been on a base since 2016 when it became a school, was separated, wall off and painted in pastel colours and murals.

U.S. doesn’t target civilians. I’ll believe Admiral Cooper over you. My prerogative.

Never?

Firebombing of Japan. Firebombing of Hamburg and Dresden. Targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure in Vietnam and Korea - bombing damns to destroy the civilian rice supply. Oh, yeah, and a couple of nuclear bombs on cities.

Since then maybe you didn't deliberately target them but your total incompetence has led to countless shelling of civilian buildings and you've killed millions of civilians. And your beloved president has publicly threatened to destroy civilian infrastructure which is a war crime.

You believe what you like. I'll believe that the US is one of the biggest killers of civilians in the world. Facts support that.

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Lie. It hadn't been on a base since 2016 when it became a school, was separated, wall off and painted in pastel colours and murals.

Never?

Firebombing of Japan. Firebombing of Hamburg and Dresden. Targeting of civilians and civilian infrastructure in Vietnam and Korea - bombing damns to destroy the civilian rice supply. Oh, yeah, and a couple of nuclear bombs on cities.

Since then maybe you didn't deliberately target them but your total incompetence has led to countless shelling of civilian buildings and you've killed millions of civilians. And your beloved president has publicly threatened to destroy civilian infrastructure which is a war crime.

You believe what you like. I'll believe that the US is one of the biggest killers of civilians in the world. Facts support that.

How many civilians has your country killed in its glorious colonial history?

3 hours ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

How many civilians has your country killed in its glorious colonial history?

Lets ask AI. Here is an nice table.

Approximate civilian deaths associated with British colonial rule

Region/event	Approx. deaths	What we’re counting
India — famines & mortality crises	Tens of millions	Famine/excess mortality associated with colonial economic and food policies
India — 1881–1920 mortality crisis	~50 million	Sullivan & Hickel’s conservative excess-mortality estimate
India — same period, alternative baseline	Up to 165 million	Much more controversial counterfactual estimate
Bengal famine, 1943	~2–3 million	Famine deaths under British wartime administration
Irish Great Famine, 1845–52	~1 million	Deaths from starvation/disease; British policy is heavily debated as a causal factor
Boer War concentration camps	~43,000	~28,000 Boers + ≥15,000 Africans
Kenya/Mau Mau Emergency	~20,000–30,000	Estimate of deaths caused by British colonial authorities
Australia — frontier massacres	10,000+ documented/estimated	Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people killed in identified massacres
Other British colonial wars/repression	Many thousands–millions	Highly variable estimates; difficult to aggregate

The India number dominates the calculation. Sullivan and Hickel’s peer-reviewed World Development paper estimates approximately 50 million excess deaths between 1891 and 1920 using India’s own 1880s mortality as the baseline. Using early-modern English mortality as the counterfactual produces 165 million, but that is a much more aggressive assumption and shouldn’t be presented as an established death toll.  

And there is an important distinction: 50 million excess deaths ≠ 50 million people directly killed by British soldiers. It is an estimate of mortality above a counterfactual level, with the authors attributing the crisis substantially to the political economy of British colonialism. Other historians dispute the magnitude and/or the causal attribution.

The Boer War is a good example of why the distinction matters

Britain established concentration camps for Boer and African civilians during the Second Boer War. Approximately 28,000 Boers died in the camps, about 79% of them children, while at least 15,000 Africans died in separate camps. Historians generally attribute the deaths primarily to overcrowding, inadequate food and sanitation, and epidemic disease rather than a British policy explicitly intended to exterminate the population.  

So calling all ~43,000 “people Britain deliberately killed” would be inaccurate. Calling them civilian deaths resulting from British military internment policy is much more defensible.

Australia

The Australian case illustrates another problem with trying to produce one grand total. The University of Newcastle’s massacre project has identified more than 10,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander deaths in more than 400 massacres. Other researchers have produced substantially higher estimates for frontier violence, but those estimates are contested.  

Kenya

During the Mau Mau Emergency, British authorities used mass detention and coercive counterinsurgency. A recent scholarly review reports estimates of 20,000–30,000 deaths caused by the British colonial administration, while noting that the exact figure is uncertain. British authorities also executed 1,090 Kikuyu men for Mau Mau-related offenses.