6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The only way to get Iran to surrender is boots on the ground. The American public has no stomach for that, it would be political suicide.

The population of Iran is 93 million people. Your proposition would be a genocide even your namesake would shrink from.

Looking forward to your next brain fart.

“The only way to get Iran to surrender is boots on the ground “

Spoken from your experience with “boots on the ground “? Or boots in the outback hunting Roos?

Can we add General to your list of qualifications? Comes with your own parking spot at the Swanbourne Barracks Officer’s Club.

Even though you’ve never served a day. It can be an honorary title. Similar to journalism.

Edited Saturday at 07:52 PM1 day by HolmesEquivelant

9 hours ago, worgeordie said:

If you want to go West now you will have to go around the Cape ,more

expense ,time , another scenario that Trump did not invision ,or was

advised but took no notice ,as he knows best ,or was asleep ....

regards worgeordie

Maersk Line has been going around the Cape for some time now. Other lines too.

Nothing new.

8 hours ago, BLMFem said:

"Bleet, bleet, we will destroy Iran, bleet, bleet."

No, you won't, because you can't. But you actually believing you can says a lot about you, and none of it is good.

The US lost the war in Iran because the war was ill conceived, poorly executed and terribly led. You got owned by a bunch of religious nutters with no navy or air force.

This has to go down as one of the greatest humiliations the US has ever experienced. So stop making an even bigger fool out of yourself with the tough guy attitude, because no one buys it.

You won't start nuking Iran. That's just the feverish dream of the most deluded psychos.

So to summarise, you haven't "got it", okay?

“The US lost the war in Iran”

When did it end? Do you news clips of Iran’s victory parade on the streets of Tehran?

I have a current video news clip of the greatest military in the world preparing to annihilate those pesky Iranians proxy ants in the desert.

Too gung ho for the fake news networks CNN and MSNBC to post.

Just give the order Pete.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. You too suffer from the Trump Faeces Obsession

I have to feel sorry for someone like you, so filled with hatred you can't see straight. Seek psychiatric help, please.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

got it. you support the losing side and thus have nothing. lol

And I thought you supported TRUMP, now it appears that you don't ! 😀

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings, or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

Who could have predicted?

6 hours ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

“The only way to get Iran to surrender is boots on the ground “

Spoken from your experience with “boots on the ground “? Or boots in the outback hunting Roos?

Can we add General to your list of qualifications? Comes with your own parking spot at the Swanbourne Barracks Officer’s Club.

Even though you’ve never served a day. It can be an honorary title. Similar to journalism.

Einstein was never involved in the Manhattan Project, even though he laid all the theoretical basis for the construction of a nuclear weapon.

I suppose you can post your SAS training, to validate your own claims of experience.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

So you deny we have complete control of their airspace, and you deny your cheerleading for Iran. Got it

Yes I deny that the US has control of anything in Iran, but I confirm that you are a sore loser with mental issues if you can't even see what is going on, and that your post of 28 February is the evidence.

And stop the claims about who I'm cheerleading for or not, as it is none of your business, and your posts get reported.

Edited yesterday at 02:53 AM1 day by CallumWK

15 hours ago, Yagoda said:

or iran surrenders, or we destroy them all

I can't see Iran surrendering any time soon. Why would they? They have Trump on the back foot.

If he is so sure of success, why hasn't he sent the full might of the US military in already? Instead of just pussy footing around.

He is always talking big about what he is going to do. Why hasn't he done it? it's not like he has any regards for US soldier's lives.

Is he scared that the Iranians might just take all the oil and gas fields down with them? Then the world economies will be really be in the s**t.

Either that or he is hoping that eventually they will run out of missiles. That might be longer than the mid terms.

14 hours ago, Yagoda said:

got it. enola gay showed that isnt so

looking forward to your next spew of iranian social media agitprop viz: jew hating america hating trump obsessed moronic losing vomit

I long suspected you were a big fan of genocide, as well as a racist. No doubt ALL 93 million Iranians are jihadis in waiting, right?

Why don't you finally cowboy up and do a Slim Pickens' impersonation and ride one of those nukes you want to drop down onto innocent Iranians. I'm sure Trump would do it, if he wasn't playing golf, rage Tweeting, grifting, or calling into Fox to tell everyone how great he needs others to think he is.

16 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

It is possible that the loss of the islands and the ports was intentional. The end plan could very well be to force some actions;

• Force the Yemen government to clean up its act. The current government is composed of factions who are constantly feuding with each other. The Yemen military has received enormous amounts of aid, much of it has been embezzled or otherwise squadered.

• The Saudis expected the USA to intervene, rather than do the dirty work themselves. The USA declined, since it was KSA asets at risk and in KSA's interests to intervene.

• The current state of oil supply still has oil and gas at affordable levels. Cutting off the KSA pipeline will put pressure on oil and gas supplies. Prices will soon become painful. Inflation will increase. All of this will put pressure on the rest of the world to intervene. Maybe, this is what the USA believes was needed to encourage other countries to intervene.

It is indicative of the hypocritical politics of those criticizing the USA for the non intervention. First they were upset when the USA engaged with Iran. They demanded that the USa stop ostilities. OK, the USA did just that. Now they are upset that the USA did not intervene directly in Yemen for the direct benefit of Saudi Arabia. Well, the Saudis have their state of the art airforce, and multi billion dollar army. They demanded the UAE leave Yemen. It is up to the Saudis to respond. They cannot expect their domestic servants to fight the Yemenis on their behalf. And if the EU and Asia are feeling the pain of the reduced oil and gas supplies, they may very well have to send their own military personnel to open the transport routes, which is what the USA has wanted all along.

Yep, It's the bloody Europeans' fault!🤣

"And if the EU and Asia are feeling the pain of the reduced oil and gas supplies, they may very well have to send their own military personnel to open the transport routes, which is what the USA has wanted all along."

You mean the transport routes that were completely open and free to use before the disastrous war on Iran started?

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"And if the EU and Asia are feeling the pain of the reduced oil and gas supplies, they may very well have to send their own military personnel to open the transport routes, which is what the USA has wanted all along."

The EU struggles to demonstrate the capability and will needed for decisive action. It has become a continent defined by weakness.

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

I long suspected you were a big fan of genocide, as well as a racist. No doubt ALL 93 million Iranians are jihadis in waiting, right?

Why don't you finally cowboy up and do a Slim Pickens' impersonation and ride one of those nukes you want to drop down onto innocent Iranians. I'm sure Trump would do it, if he wasn't playing golf, rage Tweeting, grifting, or calling into Fox to tell everyone how great he needs others to think he is.

I'd drop you in Iran; you would bore them to death.

4 hours ago, Wingate said:

I long suspected you were a big fan of genocide, as well as a racist. No doubt ALL 93 million Iranians are jihadis in waiting, right?

Why don't you finally cowboy up and do a Slim Pickens' impersonation and ride one of those nukes you want to drop down onto innocent Iranians. I'm sure Trump would do it, if he wasn't playing golf, rage Tweeting, grifting, or calling into Fox to tell everyone how great he needs others to think he is.

Got it. You are another Iranian shill screaming as your doom approaches

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

I can't see Iran surrendering any time soon. Why would they? They have Trump on the back foot.

Got it. A complete blockade and resulting destruction of irans economy means we are on the back foot.

You must be a Dallas cowboys fan, almost winning

5 hours ago, CallumWK said:

Yes I deny that the US has control of anything in Iran, but I confirm that you are a sore loser with mental issues if you can't even see what is going on, and that your post of 28 February is the evidence.

And stop the claims about who I'm cheerleading for or not, as it is none of your business, and your posts get reported.

Got it. You don't deal in reality since you don't think that we have the ability to cruise around Iran skies without any interference whatsoever.

Definitely cheerleading for terrorists.

7 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

And I thought you supported TRUMP, now it appears that you don't ! 😀

Got it. You are still in 3rd grade

It's nice to watch the left rooting for Iran while they laugh at the 25th university of 9/11 remembrance ceremony.

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About a third of the world's oil supply goes through the two straits, and if the Iranians and Houthis decide to put the squeeze on, the EU as well as a few Asian nations will have to go and rescue the Americans, which will be very costly, both in lives and Euros.

They should only agree to do so if trump agrees to fire Hegseth and then resign.

"For all the setbacks suffered by Iran’s “Axis of Resistance” over the past year or two, its forces retain an ideological fervor and an esprit de corps that is sorely lacking on the other side. The Gulf states’ failure to work together against the Houthis has been catastrophic, and it echoes Trump’s own failure to devise a plausible or coordinated strategy against Iran.

Although the Houthis already had the ability to threaten shipping in the Red Sea, the capture of the Bab el-Mandeb “means you can literally sit on the coast and fire at passing ships,” April Longley Alley, a Yemen expert at the Washington Institute on Near East Policy and the former political adviser to the United Nations special envoy for Yemen, told me."

Off topic posts and replies trolling about imaginary medical conditions and diapers have been removed.

On 9/12/2026 at 1:41 PM, Lacessit said:

It can still be reached via the Suez Canal and the Mediterranean, but adds weeks and lots of cost to the travel.

IMO the only way this can be stopped now is if Trump dies or is removed by the 25th Amendment, or a trial after impeachment.

Thee question is: Is the Suez Canal deep enough to handle large oil tankers?

It hasn't been discussed here yet: What if the Houthis mean business ?

It would mean that Donald has to open a "second front". I hope this would happen before the mid-term elections. De-Thoning the King.

Just now, swissie said:

It hasn't been discussed here yet: What if the Houthis mean business ?

It would mean that Donald has to open a "second front". I hope this would happen before the mid-term elections. De-Thoning the King.

Corr: De Throning the king.

On 9/12/2026 at 1:43 PM, Yagoda said:

or iran surrenders, or we destroy them all

"Destroy" 90 million Iranians? Before: "Destroy" 150 million Russians? Your narrative for years.

What is wrong with you? Can the AN community help you in any sort of way? Taking you softly by the hand, bringing you back to reality?

It is never too late to ask for help.

9 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yep, It's the bloody Europeans' fault!🤣

"And if the EU and Asia are feeling the pain of the reduced oil and gas supplies, they may very well have to send their own military personnel to open the transport routes, which is what the USA has wanted all along."

You mean the transport routes that were completely open and free to use before the disastrous war on Iran started?

The routes were relatively safe to those who paid the Houthis and Iranians off. What do you think Qatar was doing all these years? The attacks on shipping started in 2014, long before the US- Iran conflict. Houthis were attacking UAE and Saudi vessels. Fishing vessels were not able to go anywhere near the Yemen coast, even if in international waters. The only reason the attacks did not expand was because the UAE and Saudi Arabai warned Iran that they would retaliate against Yemen's puppet master. The world did not really care at the time, but a slow fuse was set.

The world took notice when the attacks on international shipping started in 2023. 40+ vessels were attacked. Those attacks ended once Israel launched a few missiles into Houti HQ, and the USA set some of their own too.

The Houthis have been locked in a civil war with the legitimate recognized government of Yemen. The Houthis are a proxy army of Iran.

9 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yep, It's the bloody Europeans' fault!🤣

"And if the EU and Asia are feeling the pain of the reduced oil and gas supplies, they may very well have to send their own military personnel to open the transport routes, which is what the USA has wanted all along."

You mean the transport routes that were completely open and free to use before the disastrous war on Iran started?

The EU and Asia enabled Iran's reign of terror. If they want access to lower cost energy, then they will have to get busy and tell their friends in Iran not to attack the UAE, kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The EU and Asia enabled Iran's reign of terror. If they want access to lower cost energy, then they will have to get busy and tell their friends in Iran not to attack the UAE, kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

You mean because oil to Asia and the EU has to pass through the strait means those countries enabled Iran's terror?

That's a pretty ignorant statement from you, but not a surprise, though.

The EU or Asia have never had issues with Iran, which doesn't mean they supported them. The reason for their terror actions for decades already is Israel, and also the US because they are Israel's water boy.

8 hours ago, CallumWK said:

You mean because oil to Asia and the EU has to pass through the strait means those countries enabled Iran's terror?

That's a pretty ignorant statement from you, but not a surprise, though.

The EU or Asia have never had issues with Iran, which doesn't mean they supported them. The reason for their terror actions for decades already is Israel, and also the US because they are Israel's water boy.

The only ignorance on display is yours. The Russian, Pakistani, Chinese and North korean involvement in Iran's nuclear activities are well documented. Iran has funded its international terrorism through its oil exports and many countries have profited from helping Iran evade international sanctions. Multiple Greece based and regulated shipping managers, brokers, and tanker operators helped Iran move its oil in violation of EU and US sanctions. Need an example? https://www.euronews.com/business/2023/09/07/greek-shipping-company-fined-24-million-for-violating-iran-sanctions Greece said it supported the international sanctions, but sat by as its own companies violated them. Brokers in Singapore were more than willing to assist. Iran has operated a series of fronting companies in the UAE, Canada, Hong Kong, mainland China, and France to launder its funds. All this is well documented. The EU despite its grand pronouncements on human rights and democracy has 3 principal culprits who have profited from their economic ties with Iran; Germany, Italy and Netherlands.

In late January 2026, the EU adopted new sanctions over serious human rights violations and Iran's continued support for Russia's war against Ukraine. Despite this, trade continues.

In 2025, total trade in goods between the EU and Iran was €3.72 billion, according to Eurostat. EU imports were worth €0.76bn, while exports totalled €2.97bn. This resulted in a trade surplus of about €2.2bn in the EU's favour.

The EU exports products that can be used for military purposes. As per the European Commission, EU exports are dominated by machinery and transport equipment. In 2024, exports in this category reached €1.28bn, making up 34% of total EU exports to Iran. Chemicals and related products exports were about €1.13bn, accounting for roughly 31%.

Source: Eurostat

The EU is very good at making grand pronouncements and announcing lofty polcies It is even better at not actually doing anything. Germany condemns iran' supply of military drones to Russia, and offers stern warnings, but still is happy to sell goods and services to iran.