Prove My Income From Overseas?

[fritiof]

Hi

As the title says; how do i prove my income from my home country (Sweden) ?

A letter from the company stating my employment and salarie? And how does it affect that i owe 50% of that company? would it still be considered "real" since i wright it to myself?

How do u get a bank statement as many are using to show that the money came from overseas, and would such a statement be any usefull in proving my income?

I mean, the transactions to my swedish account is all in swedish, how would the authorites now what is my salary and what isn´t?

Would be great if someone had some usefull inputs on this issue...

Thanks /fritiof

[Jingthing]

What kind of visa are you going for?

If you are going for a retirement visa, all you have to do is find out what documentation (if any) the Swedish embassy requires to issue you a letter that will be acceptable as proof to immigration. If you are wiring money into a Thai bank account to qualify using the bank account method, talk to your Thai bank, rather than your Swedish bank. The Thai bank can probably get you the documents you need (if you need them at all).

[fritiof]

I´m not going for a retirement visa, 22 years of age doesn´t really qualify what i´ve heard

I´m looking at different solutions to be prepared if the TV crackdown is for real, and even if its not, i would like a one year visa of some sort. As i said earlier, i have an income from my company back in Sweden which i manage from distance through e-mail, telephone etc.

I thought that proving that i have an income from outside of thailand, which shows that i´m not working here illegaly, combined with an inventation letter from my thai girlfriend, would might make the embassys look "friendly" on me to issue me a non-immigrant O visa, or is that like hoping for santa to come in the middle of the summer? Is there any options for me in this situation?

[Jingthing]

Yes, if I were you I would go to Thai embassy in Sweden and ask for a one year multi-entry O visa. With that you can stay 15 months and must make quick visa run trips every 3 months. Ask them what financial documentation you need and give as your reason your relationship with a Thai. Don't volunteer your working situation, that might complicate things. They might ask something as simple as showing a modest sum in a Swedish bank. It might work depending on how liberal they are. Your young age probably isn't a plus in this situation. Good luck.

Edited October 9, 2007 by Jingthing

[torrenova]

You don't need to prove your income. That is only for retirement or after marriage before 50 and showing 40k per month. As you are just a tourist, a multi entry non imm "O" will do you and you don't need to prove any income for that.

[Jingthing]

Some embassies do indeed ask to see some money for an O visa. Perhaps even a tourist visa. It depends on the specific/embassy consulate. Proof of income is another matter. My guess is the OP will be asked simply to show a bank balance at most.

Edited October 9, 2007 by Jingthing

[fritiof]

Thanks for ur tips!

Unfourtanly, the thai embassy in Stockholm is extremly difficult to have any kind of normal discussion with and the standard answer to any question is "NO".

Any ideá if an embassy in South east asia would be willing to handle my application with a positive outcome?

[Jingthing]

Oh, if you have a difficult embassy, thats a problem. How do you feel about joining the ranks for the visa runners? You can stay for at least a while doing this. I am sure the Thai embassy in Sweden will at least give you one tourist visa, so thats a start. Ask for a double or triple just in case they are having a good day. From there, join the fun crowd who use 30 day stamp runs and trips to Penang to get new tourist visas (until they say no).

Edited October 9, 2007 by Jingthing

[fritiof]

The thing is Jingthing, i´ve been doing regular visa runs for 15 months allready, leaving for Singapore next week which hopefully will give me a new Touristvisa.

As i said before, i´m looking for possible solutions to make my stay more solid/ or if the crackdown on touristvisas will be inforced strictly, we visa-runners all got a problem....

[Jingthing]

Fritiof,

Yes, you do have a problem and I wish you the best in your efforts to stay here if you want.

Others might have ideas, but my idea now is to ask if you can open a bank account in Thailand and transfer in a large sum of money, say a million baht, and then ask some visa agents in Penang if this might get you a multi-entry O visa based on a relationship with a Thai. Make sure to get a document showing you transferred the money in from outside Thailand. Other than that, you could go to school on an ED visa but you are busy working it sounds. I don't think working in Thailand without a work permit is your answer and I would not volunteer this info to immigration.

Edited October 9, 2007 by Jingthing

[fritiof]

Perhaps the best solutions is to save upp some money to start a thai-section of the business, a proper CO,.LTD, but atm lets hope the back-to-back tourist visas will be an option for some time more...

Thanks for your replys Jingthing, great to get different veiws on things

[torrenova]

Consulates are better than embassies for visas the world over it seems. That said, Sweden is not some micky mouse Asain country and they should be on the ball. You self certify or someone else certifies for you but I have not seem a country asking for proof of cash. How can they ? You want to go to Thailand 5 times in a year before returning home then you need a non imm visa. You want to stay for 90 days at a time, youi need a non imm visa.

How much would you need to show ? There is no mathematical calculation available.

Can he use the consulates in Hull or Birmingham in the UK ? I think he should be able to but I do not know their rules. They will answer the email though so he could try that.

I would actually argue with a consulate or embassy if they refused. I thought about doing so in Hong Kong but the cost of staying there to argue the case was prohibitive.

[Pattaya46]

... As i said earlier, i have an income from my company back in Sweden which i manage from distance through e-mail, telephone etc.

I thought that proving that i have an income from outside of thailand, which shows that i´m not working here illegaly ...

Not illegaly ???

But you tell us that you work from Thailand through phone & internet,

and you do not have Thai Cie or Work permit,

so you are working here illegaly !

and you should pay taxes here too !

See Internet Business, Need Workpermit?

and other similar discussions on ThaiVisa.

Pattaya46

[Jingthing]

Illegal?

Schmelegal.

The truth is immigration DOES NOT CARE that people are working on the net on businesses that are based outside Thailand and have nothing to do with Thailand. If you get into exporting, that is another matter. However, it would still be silly to tell immigration about working in Thailand on a foreign business, because then you would be rubbing it in their face, and they might have to care (at least to the point of denying any visas).

I think opening a legit Thailand office would be a royal pain in the bum.

Edited October 9, 2007 by Jingthing

[fritiof]

Pattaya 46: Do i need a work permit, really? how could i obtain one without a thai employer?

I´m not based here am I? my office is where I am and no one but me can tell if i´m working or not!

Is manageing my company through e-mail really work then i supose the guy who comes here on holiday checking hes work e-mail need one too hu?

I pay taxes in my homecountry, i would gladly change and paying it here in Thailand instead, but then I would need an advice on how to do that....

[Pattaya46]

Hi fritiof ,

First, I am not an expert and if you want to make everything right

you should contact a local layer, or SunBeltAsia by exemple.

> Do i need a work permit,

To respect the law ? Yes

> really?

As said by Jingthing, immigration does not care,

and it seems many guys try to "stay under the radar"...

> no one but me can tell if i´m working or not!

If you keep it secret, you should be able to do "as a tourist".

The main risk: Denunciation ! from a concurent, an old "friend", ...

If you hope to stay very long time, to live here, think about that

because if Immigration make inquiry, maybe you could not come back...

> but then I would need an advice on how to do that....

You have to create a Cie, and it's possible without employing Thais.

See layers, and read old discussions on this forum

Pattaya46

[fritiof]

Thanks for ur inputs Pattaya46

Hopefully i will in the future find a reliable partner here in Thailand to open up a thai company and "earn" my visa that way.