Wow, how enlightening this thread is. I never thought any of these things were much of a problem before.

Things are on the verge of going in circles here. I will say that I do believe rot daengs are maybe the most dangerous vehicles on the streets. That's not to mention that they chug black stuff by the cubic meter-full wherever they go. And that you will often see /pass maybe 5-6 in a row, each with one or sometimes no passengers in them whatsoever - a huge waste of space and fuel. Now then, that out of the way, there is some progress being made with public transport in CM w/ regards to busses and taxis (don't start!), but the red car union is a mighty one.

Overall I don't stress about it. Cuz here's the thing..... if you/ we could imbue the Thais with all of our gung-ho ambition to change and be more like us who 'know how to do things right...blah blah blah.....' eventually we would end up with our own dam_n countries of origin. There is alot to be said to being able to resist the urge to 'fix' things. They really may not be wrong in the first place - as maybe it is OUR perceptions that are wrong! Anyway, try to improve things too much, and down the line you may get just what you asked for.... an annoying country of too much regulation and rules, and uptight people worried too much about time and efficiency.

Well said , just a different way to look at it , but very true .

Not that the Song taews and tuk tuks ( hate them most ) should stay though .

Just something cleaner , better air to breath and everybody (especially Thais) happy .

build a footbridge to cater to hotties during songkran, now thats an investment! and a possibility. am sure many liquor and beer companies would be more than happy to sponsor such a construction.

With a plexiglass floor!

I think we're on to something here...

Things are on the verge of going in circles here. I will say that I do believe rot daengs are maybe the most dangerous vehicles on the streets. That's not to mention that they chug black stuff by the cubic meter-full wherever they go. And that you will often see /pass maybe 5-6 in a row, each with one or sometimes no passengers in them whatsoever - a huge waste of space and fuel. Now then, that out of the way, there is some progress being made with public transport in CM w/ regards to busses and taxis (don't start!), but the red car union is a mighty one.

Overall I don't stress about it. Cuz here's the thing..... if you/ we could imbue the Thais with all of our gung-ho ambition to change and be more like us who 'know how to do things right...blah blah blah.....' eventually we would end up with our own dam_n countries of origin. There is alot to be said to being able to resist the urge to 'fix' things. They really may not be wrong in the first place - as maybe it is OUR perceptions that are wrong! Anyway, try to improve things too much, and down the line you may get just what you asked for.... an annoying country of too much regulation and rules, and uptight people worried too much about time and efficiency.

Well said , just a different way to look at it , but very true .

Not that the Song taews and tuk tuks ( hate them most ) should stay though .

Just something cleaner , better air to breath and everybody (especially Thais) happy .

I was in Ningbo, China a while back, and was amazed at all the electric/pedal bikes there were in use. You pedal to charge them, and then, just a soft zzzzzzz can be heard as you go by on the electric motor. Imagine electric tuk tuks and song toas, how nice would that be? Those and the huge trucks seem to spew the most noxious smoke.

Did a day trip to Sankampang recently and wow, forgot what clean, fresh air was. I might be making a move soon, just for health reasons. Getting tired of being stuck in traffic forced to suck in mass quantities of CO. Nasty stuff.

Things are on the verge of going in circles here. I will say that I do believe rot daengs are maybe the most dangerous vehicles on the streets. That's not to mention that they chug black stuff by the cubic meter-full wherever they go. And that you will often see /pass maybe 5-6 in a row, each with one or sometimes no passengers in them whatsoever - a huge waste of space and fuel. Now then, that out of the way, there is some progress being made with public transport in CM w/ regards to busses and taxis (don't start!), but the red car union is a mighty one.

Overall I don't stress about it. Cuz here's the thing..... if you/ we could imbue the Thais with all of our gung-ho ambition to change and be more like us who 'know how to do things right...blah blah blah.....' eventually we would end up with our own dam_n countries of origin. There is alot to be said to being able to resist the urge to 'fix' things. They really may not be wrong in the first place - as maybe it is OUR perceptions that are wrong! Anyway, try to improve things too much, and down the line you may get just what you asked for.... an annoying country of too much regulation and rules, and uptight people worried too much about time and efficiency.

Well said , just a different way to look at it , but very true .

Not that the Song taews and tuk tuks ( hate them most ) should stay though .

Just something cleaner , better air to breath and everybody (especially Thais) happy .

I was in Ningbo, China a while back, and was amazed at all the electric/pedal bikes there were in use. You pedal to charge them, and then, just a soft zzzzzzz can be heard as you go by on the electric motor. Imagine electric tuk tuks and song toas, how nice would that be? Those and the huge trucks seem to spew the most noxious smoke.

Did a day trip to Sankampang recently and wow, forgot what clean, fresh air was. I might be making a move soon, just for health reasons. Getting tired of being stuck in traffic forced to suck in mass quantities of CO. Nasty stuff.

http://www.pcd.go.th/info_serv/en_air_tuktukth.html

Wow! Cant wait.

build a footbridge to cater to hotties during songkran, now thats an investment! and a possibility. am sure many liquor and beer companies would be more than happy to sponsor such a construction.

With a plexiglass floor!

I think we're on to something here...

Please can I do the research on which hotties should be on the bridge?

Ok guys - fun that this may be I think it has meandered off topic for long enough. If no one has anything relevant to say regarding the original post then I think it is time to let this one alone.

thanks

CB