Richard-BKK Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hello People, True is blocking websites not on basis of indecent or of Adult nature, just common websites. Of course this is totally unacceptable, they now control what news we read what websites we visit…. Parts of the Google website are not available? Common websites with information are blocked? What is wrong with them, if they want to block websites why they not concentrate on adult websites? For new ADSL subscribers I will say go for TOT or another….this is really bad………. Is True run by the Communist Party…….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumonster Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 the slick advertising of TRUE... not trying to be cynical or anything, it occured to me that if you blocked say hotmail and yahoo for half a day you might save yourself a fair amount of money in bandwidth costs, and inadvertantly cause the death of many a sick buffalo who could not be bought medicine in time to save them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hmmm, I understand they want to close websites like Thaivisa because indirect they get (like many useful Thai websites) there income from advertising, so blocking the advertising they kill in some way the income of this (Thai) website owners. Good idea Thai help Thai, this is the way to go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancali Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Could you give some examples of normal non-adult sites True is blocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 hi' one solution is to go through a proxy ... or get a piece of software for anonymous surfing hide your IP to the provider ... censorship comes to a normal Thai way ... cheers francois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trawler Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Been using True for around 1 month now,to date have had no problems accessing the websites I have always accessed from other countries.Just my satangs worth.ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabal1234 Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Could you give some examples of normal non-adult sites True is blocking? Here's one example: hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancali Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I was just there and they didn't block it. Perhaps if I'm there longer they will block it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Could you give some examples of normal non-adult sites True is blocking? Here's one example: hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com This one is on the ICT Ministry's huge block-list, so all ISPs have to block it. It's nothing to do with True - it's the TRT government's policy to promote "social order." The block-list isn't just porno sites, there are seven categories to be blocked: porno, insulting to the monarchy, danger to national security, hacker, spammer, gambling, and another I forget. Presumably anonymous proxy sites fall into the "hacker" category or they are blocked because they facilitate viewing blocked sites. Since the Ministry operates on an "if you don't block these sites we'll cancel your ISP licence" basis, there are no checks and balances and there is no appeal against their decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 No problem accessing on **st*r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabal1234 Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Here's a curious thing... if I go through True's OWN http proxy I can access any web site I like e.g. hxxp://www.sex.com and hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com No problem from Hi-net CAT TT&T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingfishingtours Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 thanks bartender100- just noticed Ive got access to sportingbet.com.previously unable to get there but havent tried for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Have a look here: HOWTO bypass Internet Censorship and here JAP that should solve your problems. JAP: surfing anonymous will slow down your connection speed, deactivating anonymous access will increase the speed im times when your service provider's proxy is slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabal1234 Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com No problem from Hi-net CAT TT&T Then perhaps the IS a True ISP based block! camerata? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongView Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Now even Angelfire.com websites are blocked. RETARDED!! Access Denied (policy_denied) Your system was configured to deny access to this URL.Because this url was and improper/obscene website or your package is localnet For assistance, contact your network support team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com No problem from Hi-net CAT TT&T Then perhaps the IS a True ISP based block! camerata? Well, it's blocked on my Inet dialup service. The blocking is done via a transparent proxy. If the IPs for a particular broadband service haven't been added to the proxy config it won't be blocked. The ISP might not have done it for technical reasons or they might have just forgotten. While I'm sure the ministry's cyber inspectors have some dialup accounts to check with, I'm sure they don't have an account with every single broadband service, so there is no practical way they can know if the service implements the block-list or not. The ISPs are businesses in a very competitive market. Censorship is bad for business, so I don't think they will go out of their way to block sites if they don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabal1234 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 There are many sites like hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com. They are blocked per ISP, not furthur upstream by CAT... Though I'm sure there are some that are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 There are many sites like hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com. They are blocked per ISP, not furthur upstream by CAT... Though I'm sure there are some that are. No one is saying that any blocking is done by CAT. It is done at each ISP's proxy server according to an ICT block-list which the ISPs have to download and put in their proxy config. So it is unlikely that an ISP will block more sites than are on the list, but it's quite possible they could block less, or not block some/any on a particular service. If two users on different ISPs report they are blocked from stayinvisible.com, or whatever, it's highly likely the site is on the ministry's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuyi Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Not just true, but others do it also: hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com "Sorry, The web site you are accessing has been blocked by the requested of The Communication Authority of Thailand. For more information please contact: The Communications Authority Of Thailand, 99 Moo 3 Chaeng Watana Road, Thung Song Hong, Laksi, Bangkok 10002 Tel. 0-2614-2270" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Happy Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 two years of surfing and I've only been blocked once, must not be a huge list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johng Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Got flood controlled. To see the full list have a look at this thread. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...l=blockurl&st=0 These where added after. 1397 http://www.geocities.com/thaisanti 1398 http://thaisanti.tripod.com 1400 http://manusaya.netfirms.com 1401 http://www.geocities.com/manusayasati 1404 http://pulo.netfirms.com 1405 http://beritadaripatani.mine.nu 1406 http://utusan.netfirms.com 1407 http://salika.00freehost.com If anyone reading this uses Ji-Net as thier ISP could you please look at http://monitor.ji-net.com/global/www-blacklist.txt and post the results here. Or if anyone has an upto date version of the "blacklist" or knows of a link to it then please post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 hxxp://www.stayinvisible.com No problem from Hi-net CAT TT&T Then perhaps the IS a True ISP based block! camerata? It is not just TRUE I tried the site from Pacific via 1222 and landed up atthis site, all in Thai. Long live the nanny state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 No problem from Hi-net CAT TT&T aherm.... well that was then !! now they have really cracked down on proxy sites I have to use a proxy to got to www.stayinvisible.com now :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandon Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I tried lots of the above sites and could get through to almost all I tried with no problem at all. Even stayinvisible. I use TRUE 1MPS. Gotto say though, if you want to see all those sites it says something about you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cojones Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 i have trried sending posts to google newsgroups from inet cafes and they never arrive ,so it looks like they are blocking posts to google newsgroups. these posts were not offensive in any way to thailand or thai people . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Strange, I can't get through to any of those sites, using adsl compax fro Ji-net.... Certainly not stayinvivsible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquess Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 All this talk is nice, but can you still use Proxies to circumvent the stupidity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua4 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 The answer is very simple True blocks any sites which are mainly free ones such as certain blocks of Netfirms and Gecities and a few other free website hosts. I am told that it is not only Thai related porn that they are blocking but also Anti-Thailand /Anti-Thaksin websites that are being hosted on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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