Ninety Day Reporting

[MickA]

Any chance you can update the details for Immigration Section 4 at Suan Phlu? The telephone numbers given are incorrect 022873991 is a house number and 022873101extension 2244 does not seem to be right either (only Thai spoken)

[MickA]

Any chance you can update the details for Immigration Section 4 at Suan Phlu? The telephone numbers given are incorrect 022873991 is a house number and 022873101extension 2244 does not seem to be right either (only Thai spoken)

This from Immigration Police website

1. Copy of all passport pages (up to the latest arrival stamp in the Kingdom or latest visa stamp)

2. Copy of arrival/departure card TM. 6 (front and back)

3. Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (if any)

4. Completely filled in and signed notification form TM. 47

5. Envelope with 5 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. This part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days.

6. The above mentioned documents must be sent by registered mail and the receipt of the registration kept by the foreigner.

Send the mail before the renewal date 7 days to

90 DAYS REGISTRATION, ROOM 206

IMMIGRATION BUREAU,

507 SOI SUANPLU,SOUTH SATHORN RD.,

THUNGMAHAMEK SATHORN

BANGKOK. 10120

[opalhort]

The latest numbers I have (last used in Oct.'07) are:

02-285-5142, 02-287-3101...10 ext. 2263

not sure if they speak English because my wife called in Thai and also not sure if this number is only for people who report by mail as I do.

opalhort

[MickA]

Thanks for that! Having sat waiting for it to come back for a month from the wrong address (as on this site ) we resorted to my wife going to Nakhon Panhom this morning...no problem done in 10 minutes.

[lopburi3]

Please advise what is wrong with the address for Immigration mail reporting. You have not provided any link and the 90 day page is http://www.thaivisa.com/extensions/90-day-reporting.html

Are you reading something else?

[road2dharma]

02 285 5142 is the number i have used before. it goes direct to the 90days office i believe. it does sometimes (!) work, and they do speak English. They can check if ur 90days has been received and processed.

02 287 3101-10 i have tried this one before too, but it connects to an automatic switchboard. the extensions are supposed to be 2262 and 2263, but I could NEVER get through on these.

NB: The 90days office was engaged constantly every time I tried to call for a week (no joke!!!) (countless times at all different times of the working day) so I believe that sometimes they must simply leave it off the hook. Eventually a woman did answer, and she was able to understand and speak reasonable English and she could check that my 90days had been received.

This Immigration Officer admitted to me that the switchboard numbers don't usually work. I didn't press her on why it was sometimes so hard to contact the 02 285 5142 number.

NOW MY 20 cents about the 90days system:

My problem was that my new 90days slip had never arrived. I must say that for many years I have renewedmany times by post without problem. I would also point out that I know of many people who NEVER renew and have had no problems, even when leaving the country. I know they say they are getting stricter, but frankly I can't even see why they have the 90days renewal system- my only guess is that perhaps some officers might have no work to do and lose their easy government positions.

All us dangerous "aliens" running around who really should be worrying about notifying every 90days cos we have nothing better to do, and they don't even have a computerised system and probably never use the information we give them anyhow. If you were actually up to no good you'd surely give them a false address, and how would they know the difference, huh - i'm doubtful if they ever check this info. It's just a silly hoop for us farangs to jump through. Reminding u that u are an "alien" I guess.

Anyhoo, the woman told me that they couldn't send another 90days slip to me, even they had a record of my registered mail to them and had received and processed it, and that I would have to go in person to Suan Phlu to sort it out. So if this is your problem a phonecall may not help.

I had to pull the government card to sort it out - I switched into Thai and told her I worked for the Thai government - actually true - asked to speak to her superior, whom I then asked super politely if she could possibly help me out as I spend my 5 working days a week working hard for Thailand. This softened her up no end, although she made me wait until after lunch and I had to call them back (as she "had to help someone have lunch" - no joke!!!), but the superior did sort it out for me, and they even shelled out the 5 baht for the stamp, bless them.

The postal renewal IS better than going to the office but in this day and age why can't they have an online system which gives you a printout with a bar code which u could stick in yer passport and they could scan it at point of exit if they wanted to check it out.

I would point out that the present system could in reality easily be circumvented if - when u wanted to leave the country (even u have never renewed ur 90days and have no slip), u simply printed up your own 90 days slip, stamped it with an easily available/easy to produce rubber name/date stamp and proceeded to the airport/border and left - if they check they will see what looks like a 90days renewal, and I am reasonably certain there is no way to check it as they have no computerised records, so they wouldn't even think to fine you.

BTW - I do not suggest u try this as it is obviously illegal. Simply to show how pointless the system really is. Just jump through the hoops instead, and post ur 90days, hoping all the while u never need to contact them by phone.

[Maestro]

road2dharma, I belivee there is no legal or regulatory requirement to keep the receipt for the 90-day report in the passport or to present this receipt to the immigration officer upon departure from Thailand.

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Maestro

[MickA]

Okay i put my hands up! I was referring to this http://www.thaivisa.com/515.0.html

Reporting of Alien's Residence

The Immigration Bureau must be informed when a foreigner resides with or rents the property of a Thai Citizen.

Place to contact :

In the Central/Bangkok Area : Section 4 (Record & Statistics), Sub-division 4, Immigration Bureau, Room 311, 3rd Floor, Old Building, Soi Suan Plu, South Sathorn Road, Sathorn District, Bangkok 10120 Tel. 287-3991 or 287-3101-10 Ext. 2244

[lopburi3]

And that has nothing to do with 90 day address reporting - it is the requirement for those providing accommodations to report foreign occupants to immigration/police. This is why you show passport information at front desk check in and enter it on card.

[tycann]

I've never reported and never will. Absolutely no need. I know a dude who has been here 17 years and has never reported. They always give me re-entry permits, visa extensions, etc without any problems.

[MickeyM]

I have never observed a 90-day reporting check upon departure from the country; however I have twice observed a 2000b fine levied for failure of 90 day reporting at the time of visa renewal.

[pattyboy]

I've never reported and never will. Absolutely no need. I know a dude who has been here 17 years and has never reported. They always give me re-entry permits, visa extensions, etc without any problems.

Yes, you're best just to stay out of the system. I have always regretted being suckered into the 90 day reporting system. tycann is absolutely right when he says there's no need to and no consequences for not doing it. I find it infuriating that because I was stupid enough to start reporting, I'm now subject to paying fines for not going in on time, yet people who ignore the law never seem to face the possibility of being fined the 2000 or 5000 baht that is levied for being late into the office. From what I've seen, he's completely right that the 90 day reporting is NEVER checked by Immigration Officers when applying for new visa extensions, re-entry permit, etc. Take his advice and don't start reporting unless somebody basically threatens your life if you don't. I've often wondered what would happen if I tore that annoying little piece of paper out of my passport and pretended that I never started reporting.

[lopburi3]

I've never reported and never will. Absolutely no need. I know a dude who has been here 17 years and has never reported. They always give me re-entry permits, visa extensions, etc without any problems.

Good luck. Your 17 year friend can not be fined more than about 5,000 plus 1,241,800 baht currently - going up not more than 200 baht per day.

Section 76 : Any alien, alien, who fails to comply with the provisions of Section 37(2),(3),(4)or(5) shall be

punished with a fine not exceeding 5,000 Baht and with and additional fine not exceeding 200 Baht for

each day which passes until the law is complied with.

[Firefan]

He,he - good one Lop!

Cheers!

[opalhort]

RE: 90 day reporting slip lost in the mail.

It happened to me some two years ago.

My wife called them and got the following info:

Their log number, date of receipt, next due date, date when they mailed it to us and the name of the officer who signed the slip.

With the next 90 day report I included a short letter in Thai explaining about the lost mail and the above info and a copy of the EMS receipt and a printout of the EMS tracking confirming the receipt by Immigration.

Everything was OK.

No need to request a replacement if the mail is lost, just obtain the relevant info.

opalhort

[madjbs]

If you leave the county and then enter again on a re-entry permit, the date on the 90 day receipt is longer the day you must go and report is it? Instead you must go 90 days after your newest entry stamp, is that correct?

Thanks

[lopburi3]

You report after 90 continuous days of being in Thailand - so if you fill out an arrival slip (having traveled) the 90 days start from that (arrival card) date.

[tycann]

I've never reported and never will. Absolutely no need. I know a dude who has been here 17 years and has never reported. They always give me re-entry permits, visa extensions, etc without any problems.

Good luck. Your 17 year friend can not be fined more than about 5,000 plus 1,241,800 baht currently - going up not more than 200 baht per day.

Section 76 : Any alien, alien, who fails to comply with the provisions of Section 37(2),(3),(4)or(5) shall be

punished with a fine not exceeding 5,000 Baht and with and additional fine not exceeding 200 Baht for

each day which passes until the law is complied with.

Doubt it would go that far. Another dude I knew never reported for 6 years, as he never knew about it. He went to report, 2000 baht fine.

[WeeGB]

I'm married to a Thai lady.I'm here on Non-Imm "O" visa, renewable for 4 entries. On the plane in, my wife wrote down the address of the house we have here, (in Thai), as to where I will be staying. Do I still need to report where I'm staying to a government authority or Thai Police? I haven't been here 90 days yet, nor will I be, we're going out of Thailand a couple of weeks early, as renewing the stamp at the 90 day period clashes with a couple of family occasions (Weddings) that we want to attend. Is there a link that explains this? I'm concerned that when I go for my retirement visa, probably in May, I'll have messed up.

I've read the thread about Thai nationals having to report foreigners living with them to the Police (we are in the Provinces), which we genuinely didn't know about, what should we do?

[Lite Beer]

I'm married to a Thai lady.I'm here on Non-Imm "O" visa, renewable for 4 entries. On the plane in, my wife wrote down the address of the house we have here, (in Thai), as to where I will be staying. Do I still need to report where I'm staying to a government authority or Thai Police? I haven't been here 90 days yet, nor will I be, we're going out of Thailand a couple of weeks early, as renewing the stamp at the 90 day period clashes with a couple of family occasions (Weddings) that we want to attend. Is there a link that explains this? I'm concerned that when I go for my retirement visa, probably in May, I'll have messed up.

I've read the thread about Thai nationals having to report foreigners living with them to the Police (we are in the Provinces), which we genuinely didn't know about, what should we do?

The 90 day report is a requirement for people staying in Thailand on long extensions of stay.

You have a Multi Entry Non O Visa so it does not apply to you.

When in the future you get your yearly extension to retire here you will have to report your address to Immigration every 90 days.

As for the other thing you are talking about. I would'nt worry too much about it. Unless you live in Hua Hin it seems.

There is also a law that states that you have to inform Immigration within 24 hours of moving house.

I downloaded the form TM 28. took it to Immigration who did not know what it was and threw it in the bin.

[manutoo]

Last time I extended my visa & my WP, the "checking" lady (the one we have a little chat with) asked me if I had the report slipper, after she had noticed it wasn't in my passport. She was clearly expecting that I didn't have it, and seemed pleasantly surprised when I took it from my wallet...

As far as I can tell, I guess it wouldn't have be a big problem if I didn't have it with me...

[Guest]

I think the last report slip is required to be kept in your passport (but we all know the rules vary from IM office to office). I was clearly told at Suan Plu to keep it in my passport and produce it next time.

[manutoo]

yes, you have to keep it in your passport.

But I was afraid to lose it, as nothing in my passport could hold it, so I put it in my wallet, a lot safer...

[Mason45]

I just recently received a 400k one year visa, is it a requirement that my wife reports with me when getting my 90 day stamp or can I do this alone and is there any documentation required besides a TM 47 form.

[Lite Beer]

I just recently received a 400k one year visa, is it a requirement that my wife reports with me when getting my 90 day stamp or can I do this alone and is there any documentation required besides a TM 47 form.

Just your passport and the form. No need to take the wife. You can even do it by post if your office is not local.

Sorry to keep pushing this. What you have is a one year extension of stay based on having a Thai Wife. Not a one year Visa.

[oldgit]

You report after 90 continuous days of being in Thailand - so if you fill out an arrival slip (having traveled) the 90 days start from that (arrival card) date.

Lop

Slightly confused as to when I've got to report.Details as follows:

1)Left Thailand for U.K.-12 Sept. 2007.

2)Old Marriage visa expired on 19 Sept 2007,so obtained temporary two month visa while out of the country.

3)Back to Thailand from U.K.-30 Oct. 2007.

4)Applied for new yearly Marriage visa on 18 Nov.2007.

5)Received new Marriage visa on 18 Dec 2007.Expires 18 Nov.2008.

Am I right that my next 90 day report date is 16 Feb.2008?

[lopburi3]

You seem to be in a gray area as you, if I am reading right, had a one year extension of stay but did not return until it expired? Then you applied for a new one year extension of stay on 18 November.

The rule is only the first extension of stay counts as a 90 day report - but as this seems to be a first time after loosing the status it will probably be considered a first time and you would be safe 90 days after your application for extension of stay (18 Nov + 90). But if they did not advise you about 90 day report believe I would not take the chance and would make the report (30 Oct + 90). Not much difference in days and you would then be safe.

[Mason45]

I just recently received a 400k one year visa, is it a requirement that my wife reports with me when getting my 90 day stamp or can I do this alone and is there any documentation required besides a TM 47 form.

Just your passport and the form. No need to take the wife. You can even do it by post if your office is not local.

Sorry to keep pushing this. What you have is a one year extension of stay based on having a Thai Wife. Not a one year Visa.

Thanks Lite Beer your information is much appreciated.

[Lite Beer]

I just recently received a 400k one year visa, is it a requirement that my wife reports with me when getting my 90 day stamp or can I do this alone and is there any documentation required besides a TM 47 form.

Just your passport and the form. No need to take the wife. You can even do it by post if your office is not local.

Sorry to keep pushing this. What you have is a one year extension of stay based on having a Thai Wife. Not a one year Visa.

Thanks Lite Beer your information is much appreciated.

90 Day report form.

[orchis]

I have never actually done this and have not encountered any reaction.

Have Non Imm B extended same for the last 4 years, year by year. have been in TH for 12 yrs now.