Neeranam Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes? Is it just me or have the numbers increased heaps? There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. What's the reason for this - more acceptable, natural selection, global warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. Perhaps there were, perhaps you are paying more attention to them more these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff1 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes?Is it just me or have the numbers increased heaps? There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. What's the reason for this - more acceptable, natural selection, global warming? You make it sound like there's something wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstumbo Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes? Where are you seeing these guys dressed as girls at? I have been coming here for about 4 years and I have not seen them. Are they in a show or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimera Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes? Where are you seeing these guys dressed as girls at? I have been coming here for about 4 years and I have not seen them. Are they in a show or something? This is really scary, you are telling us there are boys dressing as girls in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes? Where are you seeing these guys dressed as girls at? I have been coming here for about 4 years and I have not seen them. Are they in a show or something? Well maybe you should get out more or visit a better optician. Actually one thing that is changing is the age, getting younger, saw a group going into Paragon the other week, so OTT that even the Thais were stopped in their tracks, however it was the hair that give them away....schoolkids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSnrang Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Its natural selection at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes?Is it just me or have the numbers increased heaps? There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. What's the reason for this - more acceptable, natural selection, global warming? at my wifes school their are a few boys that wear makeup, tie there hair up with little bows in them ,, use the girls toilets and are generally treated the same as the girls ,, nobody seems to give a sh*t ,,, guess they are just training them young these days cheers egg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 When I taught briefly at a business school (more like a technical college, ages 15-19) in 2005, one of the ladyboys wore the girl's uniform (tartan skirt), and a couple more gay young men wore makeup, or bows in their hair. No big deal, this is Thailand, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macx Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 No need to panic as long as you can tell the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptuan Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. Perhaps there were, perhaps you are paying more attention to them more these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 It has often been mentioned to me by the locals that katoeys are made and not born (it's not the same as being gay) If a family has a large number of sons, a number of them are 'encouraged' to act and dress like daughters. One such family in my village has four boys and no girls, two of the boys wear dresses and make-up, it's difficult to believe that that has happened by chance. In rural Thailand it usually falls on the daughters to be the bread-winners and the supporters of the parents when they are older, in that light, only having boys would be regarded as a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter991 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 In rural Thailand it usually falls on the daughters to be the bread-winners and the supporters of the parents when they are older, in that light, only having boys would be regarded as a bad thing. Interesting thread: I can't find the article right now, but I remember reading that this all started during the Vietnam war when American servicemen started sampling the delights of Thailand in the 1960s and 1970s. Girls gravitated to Bangkok - and later Pattaya and Phuket to entertain the serviceman on their R & R breaks. They returned to their villages proudly showing off their new-found wealth. Some of the boys from the villages saw the easy way their sisters made money and decided they wanted to get into the act too. Just a thought: Are lady-boys a new phenomenon or have they been around for ever? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tijnebijn Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 It has often been mentioned to me by the locals that katoeys are made and not born (it's not the same as being gay)If a family has a large number of sons, a number of them are 'encouraged' to act and dress like daughters. One such family in my village has four boys and no girls, two of the boys wear dresses and make-up, it's difficult to believe that that has happened by chance. In rural Thailand it usually falls on the daughters to be the bread-winners and the supporters of the parents when they are older, in that light, only having boys would be regarded as a bad thing. Sorry but what you wrote down in my opinion is utterly nonsense ! Most people are very proud to have sons , it the other way around . Only when they are old fashioned and do the Sin Sod thing , perhaps prefer the daughter , not that anyone will give anything for a ladyboy though ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. Perhaps there were, perhaps you are paying more attention to them more these days. Why's that funny? Quite the opposite, in fact. When first arriving in Thailand I'd think it very strange. The longer I stay here, the less attention I give to them. This is usually the case, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 You make it sound like there's something wrong with that Who am I to judge? But, it's not wrong, just strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter991 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) What 'shocks' you when you first arrive in Thailand? What 'shocks' you today? You Know You've Been In Thailand Too Long When ... Perhaps some of us have been in Thailand too long. Peter Edited February 10, 2008 by peter991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Just a thought: Are lady-boys a new phenomenon or have they been around for ever? I know a couple of lady-'men', who must be in their 60's or 70's but none older. Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveydavey Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 We start them young around these parts............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethevigoman Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes?Is it just me or have the numbers increased heaps? There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. What's the reason for this - more acceptable, natural selection, global warming? jenny star bar is full of em, its seems a lot of farang like em, so its supply and demand ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 This reminds me of a letter in the Bangkok Post 20 years ago. A lady was complaining about the "ladies" who came up and molested her husband......... Little did she know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2396 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I have seen quite a few, mostly in the high school and college crowds. Perhaps they get greather acceptability with certain females, who seem to prefer them to the "real" men. I always wondered if these cross-dressers got more "tail" as a result of their more feminine and perhaps non-threatening appearence and behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 It has often been mentioned to me by the locals that katoeys are made and not born (it's not the same as being gay)If a family has a large number of sons, a number of them are 'encouraged' to act and dress like daughters. One such family in my village has four boys and no girls, two of the boys wear dresses and make-up, it's difficult to believe that that has happened by chance. In rural Thailand it usually falls on the daughters to be the bread-winners and the supporters of the parents when they are older, in that light, only having boys would be regarded as a bad thing. Sorry but what you wrote down in my opinion is utterly nonsense ! You are, quite rightly in my opinion, able to hold that opinion. However, I am purely relating what I see and what I hear, and I am talking about my local area specifically, which is very poor, it wasn't a generalisation of the whole of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickbk Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 It has often been mentioned to me by the locals that katoeys are made and not born (it's not the same as being gay)If a family has a large number of sons, a number of them are 'encouraged' to act and dress like daughters. One such family in my village has four boys and no girls, two of the boys wear dresses and make-up, it's difficult to believe that that has happened by chance. In rural Thailand it usually falls on the daughters to be the bread-winners and the supporters of the parents when they are older, in that light, only having boys would be regarded as a bad thing. Sorry but what you wrote down in my opinion is utterly nonsense ! Most people are very proud to have sons , it the other way around . Only when they are old fashioned and do the Sin Sod thing , perhaps prefer the daughter , not that anyone will give anything for a ladyboy though ..... Well it might look like nonsense but I confirm that I have seen some families "making" katoeys. Now, I don't hold any statistic so I will not say if it's majority, minority or exceptional cases, but that certainly happens and I have seen it more than once. Families wearing girl clothes to boys way before they reach adolescence and making them wear make-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpete Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Has anyone else noticed the large number of young men wearing make-up and womans clothes?Is it just me or have the numbers increased heaps? There weren't nearly as many 10, 15 years ago, if my memory serves me right. What's the reason for this - more acceptable, natural selection, global warming? Far more girls wear guys clothes, so wots the problem? Are you a narrow minded sexist person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Far more girls wear guys clothes, so wots the problem?Are you a narrow minded sexist person? That is exactly what i am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Far more girls wear guys clothes, so wots the problem?Are you a narrow minded sexist person? That is exactly what i am. And at weekends my name is Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpete Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Far more girls wear guys clothes, so wots the problem?Are you a narrow minded sexist person? That is exactly what i am. And at weekends my name is Mandy PMPLMAO..... great reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I remember wearing black nail varnish for a while, back in the mid 70's. It was just a phase I went through.....................I'm sure I still have the bottle somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Mix1up Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 as far as "getting more tail" goes definately in the early 80's I used say "the more gay I looked the more girls I got" Whether this holds true for Thais I have no idea. I've made friend with some outwardly gay Thai guys but they don't touch girls as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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