At one time you would almost always see The Bangkok Post as the source for Thai related news stories on web forums such as Thai Visa. Now there are more and more references to The Nation. Has this been reflected in the current circulation? Trying to find accurate current circulation figures is not easy. Both papers supposedly sell around 50,000 copies daily but what are your current reading preferences?

I don't get the opportunity to pick up a paper on the way to work, so it's all read on the web.

The Bangkok Post website is quite possibly the worst news website I've ever seen. For this reason alone, I only read The Nation online (which still is far from perfect).

Of course, you can't expect them to be as good as the BBC News website owing to budget limitations, but still, how about some links to articles that last a little longer than a week?

I agree, the Post website is terrible, some days I can find the post bag and some days I can't.

Guardian online for me.

Don't necessarily agree with the opinions expressed, but it is the best to navigate of all I have tried.

For sport I go to specialist sites such as 'Scrum' - 'cos the Guardian has one big problem - the sports reporting is terrible.

for unbiased reporting, the latest world affairs news & a nice pair of female breasts

... The Sun Newspaper

I buy the Post everyday and while it's only adequate I can't bear the layout of the Nation. If I can't get the Post I'll go without.

I'd have to honest and say the Nation's the worst newspaper I've ever seen!

for unbiased reporting, the latest world affairs news & a nice pair of female breasts

... The Sun Newspaper

Sun unbiased? Joke, eh? Anything Murdoch owns requires a wide birth IMHO.

In LOS used to be BKKPost (and online too - before it went charged) - now don't bother much, but will read the Nation given the choice. Just don't trust the Post since the PM forced the sacking of the Editor for being anti-TRT.

In the UK, the Metro (because its free). Big picture of Sombat Bigley (42 y/o Thai wife of Brit hostage Kenneth Bigley held in Iraq) in Bangkok fighting back tears on front page today. (side by side to the health minister calling for an act on banning smoking in public).

I try and get my hands on the Post everyday. But, will settle for the Nation if stocks of the Post are not around. Mostly like the Post because there is alot more to read. I am not a huge fan of classifieds or finance and the Post offers alot more content and quality in this regard. Espiecally Friday's Motoring section

I'll read whatevers there - preferably The Post.

I'll read whatevers there - preferably The Post.

I'm with you Scampy. And with those who abhor the Thai online offerings.

The Nation now has by far the best group of columnists on all subjects, and I believe it is attracting more and more readers. The Post 'Postbag' used to be very large but seems now to be down to a daily handful of letters. By contrast, The Nation 'letters' page is now a virtual pageful when up to not so long ago, it was almost non-existent at times. There must be some significance in that. A hard hitting stimulating paper now, while The Post, still informative, seems to have gone soft. Understandably, as we know what happened to the editor a while back. Congrats to The Nation for standing its ground.

By the way, just what is wrong with the lay-out that one of your contributors complained about ??

I'd be guessing one problem about the layout of The Nation is the way various articles are started on one page but not completed. You have to turn to another page to read what is often only a few more sentences. I've seen papers in other countries published in the same style but still find it annoying.

i read both of them,but prefer the Bkk Post.I like the layout of the Bkk Post a bit more and its thick enough to stay in touch to the dayly occurences.

But i think neighter of the both newsletters provides an internet page whitch would be worth to mention.In this context a little advantage to the Bkk online Site.

I am never in a country long enough to buy papers etc. I get most of my news from tv news clippings.

It's all bad news anyway...

I am staying a short distance (relatively speaking) from the two bombed Russian planes, the school hostage site, Iranian earthquakes etc...I guess I just don't want to know...

The Post has gone downhill since the day they fired Bernard

The Bangkok Post shows a much more friendly attitude towards the government.

So the information given is not always hundred percent. It doesn't always show all angles.

The Nation group's newspapers, The Nation and Kom Chad Luk, are probably the most independent newspapers (with Matichon). Qualitative better than the Post.

The Post is for a broader public and has a very good coverage of cultural items.

There is a part for daddy, mammy and also the kids are not forgotten. And some nice crosswords for granny to keep her brain-training going.

They attract more advertissements, have more financial means and can make more pages.

And for the foreigners a part of a page where they can utter their frustrations to the enjoyment of other foreigners.

So t is al little bit quantity versus quality.

But both papers are good. If I were Thai I probably wuld read the Nation, but as a foreigner I don't mind reading the Post.

The only thing is that these lazy journalists of the Post do again and again is to introduce persons in their artcicles without telling who they are.

According to Mr. Pisit blablabla.... Who is Mr. Pisit?

A more professional journalist would never sin against this basic rule.