Oz Visa Length Of Stay

[Sweet Dreams]

Just a quickie to settle a worry-

My TGF has a tourist visa to visit Australia. We didn't ask for 3 months stay, but that is what she got.

My question is - Can she stay for 3 months anyway?

Thanks for any replies.

[CbrLad]

Just a quickie to settle a worry-

My TGF has a tourist visa to visit Australia. We didn't ask for 3 months stay, but that is what she got.

My question is - Can she stay for 3 months anyway?

Thanks for any replies.

Of course she can stay 3 months. The only word of caution though is for next time. If in her 1st application she said she was going to stay 2 weeks, but stayed 3 months then at next application time they might question her honesty.

[mike_rad]

Of course she can stay 3 months. The only word of caution though is for next time. If in her 1st application she said she was going to stay 2 weeks, but stayed 3 months then at next application time they might question her honesty.

So you're not allowed to change your mind?

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[CbrLad]

Of course she can stay 3 months. The only word of caution though is for next time. If in her 1st application she said she was going to stay 2 weeks, but stayed 3 months then at next application time they might question her honesty.

So you're not allowed to change your mind?

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It is not a matter of changing ones mind, it is a matter of credibility. As I said they MIGHT question why the applicant originaly said they were staying for 2 weeks but stayed for 3 months and use that as a reason to refuse the 2nd app.

[gburns57au]

Just a quickie to settle a worry-

My TGF has a tourist visa to visit Australia. We didn't ask for 3 months stay, but that is what she got.

My question is - Can she stay for 3 months anyway?

Thanks for any replies.

She can stay until the date stated on the visa.....she must leave on that date or earlier.....There is no penalty for staying longer than the original intent as long as the visa conditions are met.

They may ask about it on future applications but it really isnt relevent as no law has been broken.

Did you put a time period on the application anywhere ??....

[CbrLad]

Just a quickie to settle a worry-

My TGF has a tourist visa to visit Australia. We didn't ask for 3 months stay, but that is what she got.

My question is - Can she stay for 3 months anyway?

Thanks for any replies.

She can stay until the date stated on the visa.....she must leave on that date or earlier.....There is no penalty for staying longer than the original intent as long as the visa conditions are met.

They may ask about it on future applications but it really isnt relevent as no law has been broken.

Did you put a time period on the application anywhere ??....

I would have thought you would have known better. Just look at question 1 and question 2 of the 48R form. First question is when do you want to visit, which gives a from and to dates, and the next question oddly enough asks how long. (I would have thought Q1 would have answered this)

As I said you won't get into trouble, no laws have been broken, but what you have said in previous applications can and do get used in processing future applications. Simple as that.

[Mighty Mouse]

....... what you have said in previous applications can and do get used in processing future applications. Simple as that.

Agreed.

One of the important parts of a tourist visa application is to provide a compelling reason to return to Thailand. By not abiding to the dates the applicant stipulated in answering question 1 and 2, it could make a mockery of the stated 'compelling reason' to return to LOS.

Any future TV application, in which a similar 'compelling reason' was stated, may well be regarded as 'doubtful.'

[CbrLad]

....... what you have said in previous applications can and do get used in processing future applications. Simple as that.

Agreed.

One of the important parts of a tourist visa application is to provide a compelling reason to return to Thailand. By not abiding to the dates the applicant stipulated in answering question 1 and 2, it could make a mockery of the stated 'compelling reason' to return to LOS.

Any future TV application, in which a similar 'compelling reason' was stated, may well be regarded as 'doubtful.'

Well said, that is what I was getting at but couldn't find the right words.....

[Sweet Dreams]

Thanks for the replies - you are quite right the compelling reason to return was the fact the Boss had given the dates of the Holiday Period granted quite clearly in the verification of employment letter.

However, having got a 3 month Visa, she could possibly ask the boss for an extension to the holiday - so she would have an answer to give to Immigration if she needs another Visa later on. Would that be OK?

It was just that we had no idea that a 3 month would be granted right off!

My friend told me she could extend again while in Australia, but I don't think that is correct - in fact asking for trouble. Am I right?

We are new at this and neither me or TGF want any black marks!

[david96]

Thanks for the replies - you are quite right the compelling reason to return was the fact the Boss had given the dates of the Holiday Period granted quite clearly in the verification of employment letter.

However, having got a 3 month Visa, she could possibly ask the boss for an extension to the holiday - so she would have an answer to give to Immigration if she needs another Visa later on. Would that be OK?

It was just that we had no idea that a 3 month would be granted right off!

My friend told me she could extend again while in Australia, but I don't think that is correct - in fact asking for trouble. Am I right?

We are new at this and neither me or TGF want any black marks!

If your TGF complies with the requirements of the 676 visa she should have no problems in the future if she wishes to obtain another tourist visa and meets the criteria, if the visa has a condition attached eg "no further stay" she will not be able to apply for another visa in Australia and must leave the country and apply offshore. Check the conditions on the visa they will be 4 digit number with the condition adjacent.

[gburns57au]

I would have thought you would have known better. Just look at question 1 and question 2 of the 48R form. First question is when do you want to visit, which gives a from and to dates, and the next question oddly enough asks how long. (I would have thought Q1 would have answered this)

As I said you won't get into trouble, no laws have been broken, but what you have said in previous applications can and do get used in processing future applications. Simple as that.

Question 1 asks when do you WISH to visit.....It does not say When WILLyou visit

Question 2 asks How long do you want to stay in Oz......upto3 months, 6 months and 12 months.

It is meant as a rough guide toward the intent of the traveller not as a cast in stone statement. You can say that the visa was granted based on the dates supplied at Q1....if that was the case then the visa would only be issued for that period.

The visa is issued for 3 months and that is how long she can stay...

If on a future application the question regards the length of stay against the bosses letter and the dates given....a letter from the boss allowing an extension of her holidays and of course if she retains the job on her return would both be favourable to her. However this is untested here so any comments made by anyone regards any possible hindrance to future applications is pure assumption

Edited March 21, 2008 by gburns57au

[gburns57au]

My friend told me she could extend again while in Australia, but I don't think that is correct - in fact asking for trouble. Am I right?

As David has said....if the visa has a No further stay condition then it can not be extended....if that condition is not present....then it may be possible to extend but that must be done before the original visa expires.

[CbrLad]

I would have thought you would have known better. Just look at question 1 and question 2 of the 48R form. First question is when do you want to visit, which gives a from and to dates, and the next question oddly enough asks how long. (I would have thought Q1 would have answered this)

As I said you won't get into trouble, no laws have been broken, but what you have said in previous applications can and do get used in processing future applications. Simple as that.

Question 1 asks when do you WISH to visit.....It does not say When WILLyou visit

Question 2 asks How long do you want to stay in Oz......upto3 months, 6 months and 12 months.

It is meant as a rough guide toward the intent of the traveller not as a cast in stone statement. You can say that the visa was granted based on the dates supplied at Q1....if that was the case then the visa would only be issued for that period.

The visa is issued for 3 months and that is how long she can stay...

If on a future application the question regards the length of stay against the bosses letter and the dates given....a letter from the boss allowing an extension of her holidays and of course if she retains the job on her return would both be favourable to her. However this is untested here so any comments made by anyone regards any possible hindrance to future applications is pure assumption

Like usual you are splitting hairs for no apparent reason but self preening. Your post is nonsense, as you know fully well the whole visa application process is about intent and I will tell you know as fact that previous applications and your actions are taken into account in future applications. As for testing it, there is no way, none of us here unless we work for DIAC and processed a specific application can say why an app was refused or given the go ahead. What is well know that one's previous applications are taken into account and what you did in country, ie how long you were here. No one is saying an app will be refused if they stay the full amount of the visa having only said they would stay a few weeks, but the example Mighty Mouse gave above, is a classic of where one could get into trouble.

If you want assumption, take a look at some of our stat dec head to heads......

Anyway I think this will be my last post on this board, too many dills who won't listen and who trot out half truths, so not much point contributing.

Edited March 21, 2008 by CbrLad

[david96]

Question 1 on the form means that this is the timeframe that the applicant would like to arrive in Australia, eg,

30/03/2008 to 21/05/2008. Question 2 is "How long do you wish to stay in Australia" 3 months, 6 months or 12 months.

Ref Form 48R.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

My friend told me she could extend again while in Australia, but I don't think that is correct - in fact asking for trouble. Am I right?

As David has said....if the visa has a No further stay condition then it can not be extended....if that condition is not present....then it may be possible to extend but that must be done before the original visa expires.

Most Oz visitor visa's now have that no extension clause GB.

[Smithson]

If you've been granted a visa once and returned within the dates then applying for a second visa is much easier, especially if she is still with you.

The most important thing is if she will return on time, if she's done so once before they are more likely to trust her a 2nd time.

[gburns57au]

My friend told me she could extend again while in Australia, but I don't think that is correct - in fact asking for trouble. Am I right?

As David has said....if the visa has a No further stay condition then it can not be extended....if that condition is not present....then it may be possible to extend but that must be done before the original visa expires.

Most Oz visitor visa's now have that no extension clause GB.

Quite so Dr PP......there have been some issued without the clause....according to some reports here.

Edited March 23, 2008 by gburns57au

[gburns57au]

Question 1 on the form means that this is the timeframe that the applicant would like to arrive in Australia, eg,

30/03/2008 to 21/05/2008. Question 2 is "How long do you wish to stay in Australia" 3 months, 6 months or 12 months.

Ref Form 48R.

Quite true David.....

Thanks for explaining that to us Dills.....