my take on black and white.

still searching for that black and white taste.

taken at Train park at chatuchak, mo chit.

thanks.

A bit dark

Agree "Fantasteak" and also much too contrasty. If you remember with your "winged wonder" shot this was also a problem.

What you have here is overexposed highlights and blocked up shadows. I'm sure this is the result of your manipulation as a D80 at 200 asa would invariably produce a full tonal range.

It appears to me that you are converting to grey scale when seeking monotone.

May I suggest you use the mode of "de-saturating" the colour image and then adjust the contrast/brightness and black point. Using this method you will still have the "use" of the colour controls to tweak the tones.

Here's a link that you might find useful to understand the above:-

http://lightroom-news.com/2007/08/24/tips-...te-conversions/

It's academic whether or not you use Lightroom - the same principles apply.

Hope this helps.

Agree "Fantasteak" and also much too contrasty. If you remember with your "winged wonder" shot this was also a problem.

What you have here is overexposed highlights and blocked up shadows. I'm sure this is the result of your manipulation as a D80 at 200 asa would invariably produce a full tonal range.

It appears to me that you are converting to grey scale when seeking monotone.

May I suggest you use the mode of "de-saturating" the colour image and then adjust the contrast/brightness and black point. Using this method you will still have the "use" of the colour controls to tweak the tones.

Here's a link that you might find useful to understand the above:-

http://lightroom-news.com/2007/08/24/tips-...te-conversions/

It's academic whether or not you use Lightroom - the same principles apply.

Hope this helps.

greetings hello The Vulcan,

wow thank you for the information.

yeah i converted from colored to greyscale method.

i would try the desaturate and hopefully get better results.

thanks for the link.

@fantasteak, it really is a bit dark.

thanks for the direction.

nice photo, that car in front of it could have been else where, but very good!

chris