Coffee Shops

[Rasseru]

Yes, it is quite an oasis in the hustle and bustle of the city, isn't it? I guess you owe at least me a tequila at the BBQ

/ Priceless

I got you much better than that. You are now in a position to get a free coffee at Libernard!

[Bananaman]

Black coffee pretty much tastes like sh*t and a lot of cream and sugar makes almost any coffee taste pretty good.

Who are you coffee snobs trying to kid?

I never put sugar or milk in my coffee. And that's why I'm a snob. Only good coffee is drinkable black. On rare occasions I'll have a latte or cappuccino, but in that case they already contain milk.

On a side note, Italian friends tell me that in Italy only children and old ladies drink cappuccino, and a latte is only good first thing in the morning when you have a hangover. I've been to Italy a few times, can't recall seeing anyone drinking anything but espressos and americanos.

Hear Hear! Good coffee, like good whisky, should only ever be drunk unadulterated. Cream and sugar are viewed only as pollutants by the true coffee aficionado.

Edited April 25, 2008 by Bananaman

[Rasseru]

. . . a lot of cream and sugar makes almost any coffee taste pretty good.

Who are you coffee snobs trying to kid?

I never put sugar or milk in my coffee. And that's why I'm a snob. . . . .

Hear Hear! Good coffee, like good whisky, should only ever be drunk unadulterated. Cream and sugar are viewed only as pollutants by the true coffee aficionado.

I am intrigued, but a little concerned. Has leaving sugar and milk out of your coffee made you a snob too?

[Rice_King]

Pretty boring town if you aren't there for the Haj.

... or a public execution.

[gpdjohn]

Black coffee pretty much tastes like sh*t and a lot of cream and sugar makes almost any coffee taste pretty good.

Who are you coffee snobs trying to kid?

I never put sugar or milk in my coffee. And that's why I'm a snob. Only good coffee is drinkable black. On rare occasions I'll have a latte or cappuccino, but in that case they already contain milk.

On a side note, Italian friends tell me that in Italy only children and old ladies drink cappuccino, and a latte is only good first thing in the morning when you have a hangover. I've been to Italy a few times, can't recall seeing anyone drinking anything but espressos and americanos.

Hear Hear! Good coffee, like good whisky, should only ever be drunk unadulterated. Cream and sugar are viewed only as pollutants by the true coffee aficionado.

When in Italy as well, ordered a cafe w/ the mixin's and was asked on why I would do that. I responded that I was ordering one for the woman I was with. They then smiled and did indeed inform me that men do not drink cafe with sugar and or cream in it.

Bono, dolce vita !

That's why it is called COFFEE, not candy...to each his own...

[tessadog]

The small wooden coffee shop near D K book shop on Kotchasarin road serves a good coffee, if you can open the door to get in, it needs a repair.

[Rasseru]

Going to Starbucks was the highlight of most our days in Medina (Saudi Arabia). Pretty boring town if you aren't there for the Haj.

And terribly frustrating if you are, once you realize you need to be in Mecca for the Haj.

Better continue your research on that Razza.

Medina and Mecca are the 2 sites where Haj Pilgrims carry out their Pilgrimage. They can do only Mecca if time and budget is limited but to do both Medina and Mecca it is considered to be far more worthy.

Followed your suggestion and continued my research.

You'll be surprised, I think, at what I learned. The Hajj -- note correct spelling -- takes place entirely in Mecca. Hajj pilgrims do indeed sometimes go on to visit Medina after the Hajj concludes, but it is done as a side trip that is not part of the Hajj. Alas, what this means, I'm afraid, is that one cannot be in Medina 'for the Hajj'.

Can I have a 'F*cking lawyer!'?

[meadish_sweetball]

Ahh, the things you can learn by just reading a single thread on the Chiang Mai forum.

[Blinky Bill]

Medina and Mecca are the 2 sites where Haj Pilgrims carry out their Pilgrimage. They can do only Mecca if time and budget is limited but to do both Medina and Mecca it is considered to be far more worthy.

Followed your suggestion and continued my research.

You'll be surprised, I think, at what I learned. The Hajj -- note correct spelling -- takes place entirely in Mecca. Hajj pilgrims do indeed sometimes go on to visit Medina after the Hajj concludes, but it is done as a side trip that is not part of the Hajj. Alas, what this means, I'm afraid, is that one cannot be in Medina 'for the Hajj'.

Not at all surprised Razza. I have been in Medina during the Haj both downtown in the area of the Holy Mosque and the airport where international flights come and go for weeks leading up to the Hajj. Surprisingly though, there is a lot of crime and cheating going on in both Medina and Mecca (Makkah) during this time and the area surrounding the Holy Mosque in Medina is similar to a market with many temporary stalls set up selling everything from dates and gold to fast food. The Al-Haram area is off-limits to non-Muslims in both Medina and Mecca.

The Pilgrims that come to Medina are doing so because they can afford the time and expense to travel there prior to or after going to Mecca. There is no requirement to go to Medina to perform the Haj, and I never said that they had to or could perform the Haj there, it is purely to have a more enlightening experience during "The greatest trip on earth". To perform the Haj one must go to Mecca.

Anyway, Starbucks in Medina is the same as Starbucks anywhere else in the world including Chiang Mai, expensive coffee and nothing special. I usually get a black double fix at Maddogs in the morning.

Mhd BB

[Ta22]

Best coffee in the world - is from coffee seed eaten by small animal and pass out as Dropping ( shit )

collected by the native

i wonder if the thai let their cow eat the coffee seed whahahhahahahha

Edited April 26, 2008 by Ta22

[Rasseru]

Not at all surprised Razza. . . . . [blah, blah, blah] . . . .

Mhd BB

Oh . . . you're no fun anymore.

Yer Brazza Razza

[gpdjohn]

Best coffee in the world - is from coffee seed eaten by small animal and pass out as Dropping ( shit )

collected by the native

i wonder if the thai let their cow eat the coffee seed whahahhahahahha

Man, I think that would taste like crap.

[meadish_sweetball]

Best coffee in the world - is from coffee seed eaten by small animal and pass out as Dropping ( shit )

collected by the native

That's right... 'kopi luwak' from the Asian Palm Civet...

Here's a rundown: http://www.animalcoffee.com/process.php

[sabaijai]

Black coffee pretty much tastes like sh*t and a lot of cream and sugar makes almost any coffee taste pretty good.

Who are you coffee snobs trying to kid?

I never put sugar or milk in my coffee. And that's why I'm a snob. Only good coffee is drinkable black. On rare occasions I'll have a latte or cappuccino, but in that case they already contain milk.

On a side note, Italian friends tell me that in Italy only children and old ladies drink cappuccino, and a latte is only good first thing in the morning when you have a hangover. I've been to Italy a few times, can't recall seeing anyone drinking anything but espressos and americanos.

Hear Hear! Good coffee, like good whisky, should only ever be drunk unadulterated. Cream and sugar are viewed only as pollutants by the true coffee aficionado.

Exactly.

[Ulysses G.]

I tried the black coffee at the Rose Guest House today, because he knows a lot about food. Tasted like some weird chemical until I annointed it with cream and sugar - then it was fine.

I guess I'm going to have to try black coffee at Libanard.

[Rasseru]

I guess I'm going to have to try black coffee at Libanard [sic].

Start with the espresso. It's mighty fine, as I discovered today, on my second visit there in two days.

[sabaijai]

Best coffee in the world - is from coffee seed eaten by small animal and pass out as Dropping ( shit )

collected by the native

i wonder if the thai let their cow eat the coffee seed whahahhahahahha

A Danish journalist friend now based in Mexico City specialises in coffee and tea journalism. For the last 20 years she has written mostly for coffee and tea trade mags, which pay well.

In the mid 90s she spent a few months in Vietnam and Indonesia researching civet coffee. In her prep work she learned how the culinary attraction of these beans is that their alleged exposure to enzymes in the civet's digestive tract break the bean down a bit and make it especially tasty, etc.

During her field research, when she tracked down the sources that supplied the civet coffee dealers, in every case she came away convinced that it was a hoax. In one case the plantation owners staged a 'harvest' where they took her to the base of a palm tree where there was civet shit containing the beans. She examined the poop and said that it appeared to her that the beans had been placed in the turds after they had exited the civets, as they were fresh and undigested.

She also found coffee producers who make a synthetically treated version of the bean, and are up front about disclosing that. I forget the details but somehow they expose the beans to an enzyme that is the same as or is similar to the one in the civet's gut.

In either case, in blind tastings her palate couldn't differentiate between supposed civet coffee and beans from the same plantation or area, given the same roast. She wrote an expose of sorts for one of the trades back in the mid 90s, I forget which one, but it may have been Coffee & Tea. She concluded that although civet coffee beans may exist in the wild, and may at one time have been harvested in very small numbers for local consumption, that nowadays the industry is something of a sham.

[iang]

Can recommend Coffee@Payap - excellent coffee, at least by my taste. It's right alongside the SuperHighway side entrance to Payap University (inside the university gates - next to Siam Commercial Bank). WiFi there too.

[gpdjohn]

Best coffee in the world - is from coffee seed eaten by small animal and pass out as Dropping ( shit )

collected by the native

i wonder if the thai let their cow eat the coffee seed whahahhahahahha

A Danish journalist friend now based in Mexico City specialises in coffee and tea journalism. For the last 20 years she has written mostly for coffee and tea trade mags, which pay well.

In the mid 90s she spent a few months in Vietnam and Indonesia researching civet coffee. In her prep work she learned how the culinary attraction of these beans is that their alleged exposure to enzymes in the civet's digestive tract break the bean down a bit and make it especially tasty, etc.

During her field research, when she tracked down the sources that supplied the civet coffee dealers, in every case she came away convinced that it was a hoax. In one case the plantation owners staged a 'harvest' where they took her to the base of a palm tree where there was civet shit containing the beans. She examined the poop and said that it appeared to her that the beans had been placed in the turds after they had exited the civets, as they were fresh and undigested.

She also found coffee producers who make a synthetically treated version of the bean, and are up front about disclosing that. I forget the details but somehow they expose the beans to an enzyme that is the same as or is similar to the one in the civet's gut.

In either case, in blind tastings her palate couldn't differentiate between supposed civet coffee and beans from the same plantation or area, given the same roast. She wrote an expose of sorts for one of the trades back in the mid 90s, I forget which one, but it may have been Coffee & Tea. She concluded that although civet coffee beans may exist in the wild, and may at one time have been harvested in very small numbers for local consumption, that nowadays the industry is something of a sham.

See, I told ya it tasted like crap, and now proven to be so as well...

[mcgriffith]

Gol dang it, where is Crow Boy when we need him?

" The coffee bean was first cultivated in Yemen in the year (5000 words)......we were in Somalia, our vehicle had just been hit by an anti-tank mine, but as we squatted by the side of the road, under live fire, we roasted our beans in an old expended RPG round.....while deployed in the jungle in Cambo, we made cross-border raids into VN to trade with the Hmong- their coffee beans for {national security considerations preclude full disclosure}".....

PS CB would never actually state the above, but he is a true hero, and a dear friend- all meant in good fun....

[Rinrada]

If cafe oliang (Old Chinese style filter coffee) is your thing then Kopitiam on Nimmenhemin do a good one.

And they have kopi (strong southern Thai/Hokkien coffee) as well, plus regular lattes, etc. Nice Thai and Malay food. Not much atmo, but you can't have everything!

Especially when poured through an old leg of one of Nora Battys stockings...(last of the summer...etc.....)...all thick and black...ruff ruff... ....plus globules of Carnation condensed milk and sticky sugar.....

Agree about Star $$$s...yuch and supprise over "ere ..Blighty...I quite like the stuff they serve up in M&S ...Cafe...wotever...Fairtrade and all that but not a bad Cappo although a bit nig noi peng [email protected] a cup (pounds)

In CM .however ..I usually drive up pass the garden centres at "Bann Hoi Gell" and go to a wee place by the side of the road in Mae Kampong ...just over the other side of the Mae Takhrai....nice mountain stuff and all locally grown...... ...chop...

For the adventurous..and a day out......found a map to the cafe.......