True Adsl Promotion

[marquess]

I am sure that like a great many of you, I have been struggling with a 56k connexion. Much to my delight I saw an advert in the Bangkok Post for TRUE ADSL. Which would cost me 890 + vat for a 20 x 56 connexion. My questions are: Can one access all websites at this speed? Is it possible to use proxy servers? Are there any hidden costs? Is it difficult to install the modem?

[Crushdepth]

Well worth getting, IMHO. Certainly leaves dial up for dead ! One thing is you hardly ever get the advertised speed - I've got the 1MB package but most of the time it runs between 150-200KB/s, sometimes up to 300 really late at night. I'd suggest saving yourself a few baht and go for either the 512K or even 256 K instead because you won't probably won't get more than that. The speed of the package is actually the speed of the connection 'between you and True's network'. If True can't provide you with 1MB of bandwidth (and they can't) then you will experience something much slower.

The only hidden cost I can think of is the tech guy charged me 700 baht to install 2 internal phone lines and jacks inside the house when he got here. I don't know whether this was legitimate or not (I got a new phone line installed at the same time) as the documentation was all in Thai.

[marquess]

Thanks for the info. Do you know if you can still use proxies?

[Crushdepth]

I've never tried, sorry, so I don't know. But I can't see why not.

[MadFranky]

Thanks for the info. Do you know if you can still use proxies?

yes u can

[MadFranky]

The only hidden cost I can think of is the tech guy charged me 700 baht to install 2 internal phone lines and jacks inside the house when he got here. I don't know whether this was legitimate or not (I got a new phone line installed at the same time) as the documentation was all in Thai.

700 seems a bit excessive, but when u sign up for the new line etc they are only contracted to bring the line to a terminal on the outside of the house, all internal wiring is your responsibility

[Firefoxx]

1. You can use proxies if you use proxies on any port other than 80. If you use port 80, it gets automatically routed through True's proxy, and not your own. You get a public IP (ie. you can setup a game server, you can use programs without special configuration).

2. You can surf both international and local sites, unlimited usage, unlimited hours. Local sites will usually get the full line speed, but international sites will usually be very slow during office hours.

3. There is a fee if you want to cancel the subscription before the minimum contract period.

4. Installing the modem is fairly straightforward. There are English instructions given. You can do it on your own, no tech needed. Remember to install the splitter properly.

If you have UBC, you can get the modem for free.

[bkk_mike]

The simple answer is - to non-Thai sites, you will get nothing like the quoted bandwidth currently.

However, it is still a lot better than a 56K dialup connection.

[kankaroo]

About the free modem supplied by True when you sign up : is it any good or is it reccommended to buy seperate from Panthip etc?

[bedardp]

Hi Marques,

What city do you live in and what phone company ?

In Pattaya with TT&T, the best dea I could get was 4,500 +tx for 256k ADSL with KSC for ISP. But I must say the speed is always as rated.

P.

[marquess]

I am with Telecom Asia, and in Bangkok, I have on the advice of certain forum members. Gone for the 256, if it turns out okay, then I will up grade to 512 over even higher. Some of my students who have it, and live in Bangkok. Have spoken favourably of it. On my dial up connexion I am usually able to get 45-48. So we shall see.

[marquess]

Looking through the trouble shooting section of the True ADSL brochure. It says that if you have an extention, it could affect your connexion quality and the signal might drop out. My question is this, if you have an extension but you don't have it connected to any phone, wil it still affect your overall performance?

[LancePowers]

I have never experienced a problem with an xDSL line and a phone extension. Also there should be a filter with your modem in order for you to use a phone on the same line.

True is good by Thai standards but seriously lacks in speed during peak times. Also their tech service is quite hilarious and border line useless. I wish Pattaya would get in gear and get some reasonable ADSL prices but TT&T is not exactly famous for common sense business practices.

[bkk_mike]

Looking through the trouble shooting section of the True ADSL brochure. It says that if you have an extention, it could affect your connexion quality and the signal might drop out. My question is this, if you have an extension but you don't have it connected to any phone, wil it still affect your overall performance?

It's the phones that need to be filtered off, not the modem itself actually.

I have my router plugged directly into the wall, and all the phones on the extensions around the house are connected through filters.

If there's no phone plugged into an extension, you don't need a filter for it. (I have 6 sockets with things plugged into 4 of them - 3 phones (filtered), and the router (no filter), the other 2 sockets have nothing plugged in.) I have no issues with my ADSL connection staying up (barring kids/maid pulling out phone leads and plugging them into the modem socket on the filter).

Alternatively, you could use one filter on the line coming into the house feeding all the phones, and feed a separate unfiltered line from that point to the modem/router.

[lopburi3]

Looking through the trouble shooting section of the True ADSL brochure. It says that if you have an extention, it could affect your connexion quality and the signal might drop out. My question is this, if you have an extension but you don't have it connected to any phone, wil it still affect your overall performance?

It's the phones that need to be filtered off, not the modem itself actually.

I have my router plugged directly into the wall, and all the phones on the extensions around the house are connected through filters.

If there's no phone plugged into an extension, you don't need a filter for it. (I have 6 sockets with things plugged into 4 of them - 3 phones (filtered), and the router (no filter), the other 2 sockets have nothing plugged in.) I have no issues with my ADSL connection staying up (barring kids/maid pulling out phone leads and plugging them into the modem socket on the filter).

Alternatively, you could use one filter on the line coming into the house feeding all the phones, and feed a separate unfiltered line from that point to the modem/router.

True provides one splitter/filter with the modem. I use a new line from outside (after tying other in home line together) directly to that splitter and run the phone side back into wall outlets. Have three extension phones on the one filter.

This provides best line directly to splitter/modem removing any inside home wire loss.

[Elysium]

True has some problems though....

I am often rejected from certain sites due to using a proxy, which I don't!

Also, when writing on another board it is restricting the features I can use due to members only log-in. It always return me to the log-in page without executing the requested feature. When able to log in there might be a problem with the actual log-in. Often you get automatically a member name including the password. This way you are able to read and access Private Messages from others... or change passwords etc.

Have sent a few mails to support to make them aware of this. They know but the problems are not solved yet....

[Crushdepth]

the splitter thing is quite important. We had all sorts of problems with the ADSL until we ripped the phone out of the wall. Priorities you know

the tell- tale was a hysterically flashing synchronisation light on the router.

[Billion]

True high speed is too good too be true.

I’ve signed up for 512 KBPS (802.50 Baht with 7% tax) and they

connect me at 2,5 MBPS every time.

I‘ve tested to download 10 MB data and it’s done in four minutes.

Surfing between the websites is extremely fast and I never get disconnected.

I paid two months fee in advanced (1.605 baht with 7% tax)

and I got a free modem and free new line installation.

(The fee installation in my home was 350 Baht with cable and jack.)

It’s the best deal I ever had; my dial up was very slow at 46 KBPS.

So what can I say, go for it and use a splitter too with your modem?

I‘ve throw away the free modem and I’m using the Billion 7100sv instead.

Good luck!

[marquess]

I seem to be connecting at 512, when I have signed up at 256. Long may it continue, I was planning to upgrade to 512; and might yet do, if one can get the speeds that your getting. The only downside is the censorship and getting around it.

[iang]

When my ADSL was installed, it only came with 1 of these filters for extensions - I managed to get another freebie off the technician but need a 3rd for another extension.

Anyone got any ideas where I can buy an additional filter in Chiang Mai?

[h90]

Elysium

whenever you use true, you use a proxy. But it is invisible for you.

Also these failures are caused by the proxy.

There is no way arround that, because it is necessary for the Thailands censorship.

If there wouldn't be that proxy, you could watch whatever page you want on the internet, so good to have that proxy, so Mr. Toxin and his friends can take care that we do not get hurt while looking at a bad page, which is telling true things about him and his gouverment......

Or pages about sex, because as everyone know, in Thailand there is no prostitution, maybe no sex at all. So also these pages are blocked.

[Mr_Happy]

I would check out computer mall row on the klong road...

[yeti]

whenever you use true, you use a proxy. But it is invisible for you.

Also these failures are caused by the proxy.

There is no way arround that, because it is necessary for the Thailands censorship.

There is an easy way around : connect using a free proxy. (easy to find some with google).

So Thai censorship thinks that you connect only to this proxy...

But it may add problems on some sites

[Billion]

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[Billion]

The only hidden cost I can think of is the tech guy charged me 700 baht to install 2 internal phone lines and jacks inside the house when he got here. I don't know whether this was legitimate or not (I got a new phone line installed at the same time) as the documentation was all in Thai.

700 seems a bit excessive, but when u sign up for the new line etc they are only contracted to bring the line to a terminal on the outside of the house, all internal wiring is your responsibility

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The fee installation in my home was 350 Baht with cable and jack.

They charge 350 Baht per phone line so you are not overcharged.