As for paint on a marble floor, if you have unsealed marble its porus, even something like red wine spill can stain a marble floor, hel_l even water can stain marble, in a kitchen.. I guess you havent owned one ?

Nope, I still got dirt and straw on my floor.

And if one did have marble floors, why would you have the floor unsealed, stupid idea if you ask me, obviously it wasn't a Farang idea to not seal the floor, it must have been Thai, right, cos Farngs always do it right.

The OP asked What it takes to get them to listen? translation; Thais don't listen, well here is a good example. my 9 yr old son and I were in the states this summer and I asked him to tell the waitress we need something. He came back and said with great surprise and excitment in his voice: Dad she lsitened to me. I asked: So, what did you expect? He replied: "At home (koh samui) they don't look at me and just blow me off when I try to talk to them" from the mouth of babes!

And speaking Thai dosent help,! i have a very good friend thats a doctor here and is fluent, its even worse for him as they DO understand him and still do it wrong !,.Reading some posters comments here i think they are in a different Thailand to some of us,.and its to be expected that some members have come galloping in as Thai defenders and to you i say you are lucky if you have never expereinced some of the problems others are discussing,.but to say it dosent exist is a joke,.

On the other hand, no mistakes are ever made in Western countries........................... what a load of B%$#@cks.

Sure they do.. but its the frequency.. Here I am amazed if a job is done as agreed, there I am surprised when one doesnt.

Here it seems when a job goes wrong there is no sense of pride in solving the problem, honoring a deal, finishing a contract. If at any point they have been paid today for tomorrow work you dont see them again.

Punch your painter, divorce your wife, fire the house keeper, kick the dog, and say f*** off to the neighbor.

You are the king of your house, if you give them an inch they will take a mile. I'm now having to retrain my wife and my employees because I was too "jai yen / jai dee" and was getting stepped all over. I didn't realize that I was being taken advantage of until it hit me all at once what was going on. "Jai Yen" no more. Take control if you can.

I'm still in the process of obedience training but I think it will work out for everyone in the end.

Keeping control is essential. Unfortunately most guys I know who have problems lost control once they built a house. NEVER build/buy a house for a woman who comes from a level of society in which the men have all control - they can't handle it.

I bet the OP's problems started when he finished building a house. If your Thai girlfriend/wife insists on a house, time to get a new one.

I had to try and get this retarded bird in the True shop to listen, nearly made steam come out of my eyes.

Funnily enough, I know a Thai girl that works in a True shop who was complaining about a retarded Farng who just couldn'ty understand that she only worked there and he would have to call an engineer, he was so dumb he even started arguing with his wife about it !

His wife was thai and was totally embarrassed about the whole episode, my friend really felt sorry for the Thai woman who had this retarded Farang with her.

I had to try and get this retarded bird in the True shop to listen, nearly made steam come out of my eyes.

Funnily enough, I know a Thai girl that works in a True shop who was complaining about a retarded Farng who just couldn'ty understand that she only worked there and he would have to call an engineer, he was so dumb he even started arguing with his wife about it !

His wife was thai and was totally embarrassed about the whole episode, my friend really felt sorry for the Thai woman who had this retarded Farang with her.

Up yer bum Maigo

Then again,. if Thai people are so dissapointing, I'm sure you could employ a few Farang 'Tradesmen' who are on the bones of their azz looking to make their rent money.

Thankfully I do..

My home theater installer is farang.

After having a Thai wreck my bike engine I am now having a Farang mechanic rebuild it from the ground up.

The electrician for my last villa was a nice efficient German.

I have no problem with paying well for the services, I just want them done right, first time, without my input.. Not too much to ask. BTW none of these people were on the bones of thier ass, all 3 of them are booked solid and flat out. I wonder how it is they can charge many multiples of a Thai price if its not a superior service ??

Punch your painter, divorce your wife, fire the house keeper, kick the dog, and say f*** off to the neighbor.

You are the king of your house, if you give them an inch they will take a mile. I'm now having to retrain my wife and my employees because I was too "jai yen / jai dee" and was getting stepped all over. I didn't realize that I was being taken advantage of until it hit me all at once what was going on. "Jai Yen" no more. Take control if you can.

I'm still in the process of obedience training but I think it will work out for everyone in the end.

Keeping control is essential. Unfortunately most guys I know who have problems lost control once they built a house. NEVER build/buy a house for a woman who comes from a level of society in which the men have all control - they can't handle it.

I bet the OP's problems started when he finished building a house. If your Thai girlfriend/wife insists on a house, time to get a new one.

There you go boy's, that straight from a guy that rents but would love to buy.

My home theater installer is farang.

After having a Thai wreck my bike engine I am now having a Farang mechanic rebuild it from the ground up.

The electrician for my last villa was a nice efficient German.

Oh dear......is there no end to the ways of the corrupt Farang ?

I trust that you inspected these individuals work permits before allowing them to partake in any paid work, or is it OK to aid and abet criminals when its beneficial to you ?

Thai workers for Thailand!

As for paint on a marble floor, if you have unsealed marble its porus, even something like red wine spill can stain a marble floor, hel_l even water can stain marble, in a kitchen.. I guess you havent owned one ?

Nope, I still got dirt and straw on my floor.

And if one did have marble floors, why would you have the floor unsealed, stupid idea if you ask me, obviously it wasn't a Farang idea to not seal the floor, it must have been Thai, right, cos Farngs always do it right.

I knew you were a Thai "Nope, I still got dirt and straw on my floor "

Punch your painter, divorce your wife, fire the house keeper, kick the dog, and say f*** off to the neighbor.

You are the king of your house, if you give them an inch they will take a mile. I'm now having to retrain my wife and my employees because I was too "jai yen / jai dee" and was getting stepped all over. I didn't realize that I was being taken advantage of until it hit me all at once what was going on. "Jai Yen" no more. Take control if you can.

I'm still in the process of obedience training but I think it will work out for everyone in the end.

Keeping control is essential. Unfortunately most guys I know who have problems lost control once they built a house. NEVER build/buy a house for a woman who comes from a level of society in which the men have all control - they can't handle it.

I bet the OP's problems started when he finished building a house. If your Thai girlfriend/wife insists on a house, time to get a new one.

There you go boy's, that straight from a guy that rents but would love to buy.

Wrong MaigoHok, I prefer to rent.

As for paint on a marble floor, if you have unsealed marble its porus, even something like red wine spill can stain a marble floor, hel_l even water can stain marble, in a kitchen.. I guess you havent owned one ?

Nope, I still got dirt and straw on my floor.

And if one did have marble floors, why would you have the floor unsealed, stupid idea if you ask me, obviously it wasn't a Farang idea to not seal the floor, it must have been Thai, right, cos Farngs always do it right.

You obviously havent owned marble floors.. Own some and then you will understand why paint isnt OK to spill on them !!

Marble is porus, it stains hellishly easy... So you pour some paint on yours.

And this is my point.. some things that are luxury items are not expected for the average Thai to know.. It seems your not aware of this either, so its even less of a surprise that someone who has little experience of these kind of things doesnt know. You seemed to take offense at that point of view, you even seem confused about "Whats so hard about cleaning paint off a marble floor ?" So if you dont know, then why would someone from the lower income of a developing country know ??

As for paint on a marble floor, if you have unsealed marble its porus, even something like red wine spill can stain a marble floor, hel_l even water can stain marble, in a kitchen.. I guess you havent owned one ?

Nope, I still got dirt and straw on my floor.

And if one did have marble floors, why would you have the floor unsealed, stupid idea if you ask me, obviously it wasn't a Farang idea to not seal the floor, it must have been Thai, right, cos Farngs always do it right.

You obviously havent owned marble floors.. Own some and then you will understand why paint isnt OK to spill on them !!

Marble is porus, it stains hellishly easy... So you pour some paint on yours.

And this is my point.. some things that are luxury items are not expected for the average Thai to know.. It seems your not aware of this either, so its even less of a surprise that someone who has little experience of these kind of things doesnt know. You seemed to take offense at that point of view, you even seem confused about "Whats so hard about cleaning paint off a marble floor ?" So if you dont know, then why would someone from the lower income of a developing country know ??

Please forgive him ,hes already said he has dirt and straw on his floor,so a wealth of knowledge regarding different surfaces wont be his forte !

I trust that you inspected these individuals work permits before allowing them to partake in any paid work, or is it OK to aid and abet criminals when its beneficial to you ?

Of course they all have work permits. All 3 of them have businesses / large shop front operations.. All three of them have to have all the uneven playing field of much higher costs, companies, and min wage and salaries than a comparable Thai.. Yet strangely no Thai can compete with them even with the built in systemic bias.

Now if Thais are such expert craftsmen.. Why would you suggest that is ??

So if you dont know, then why would someone from the lower income of a developing country know ??

Exactly!

OK so now that you accept that they dont know what is expected of them in terms of quality.. Isnt it vital that they listen to the wishes of the client offering the work ?? And not just go about it as they guess, as they dont know what it is the client actually wants.

And this is back to where we started.. They often dont listen, they very rarely like to be told to do it a different way, often refuse to comply despite being paid to do it that way.

Is it always like that ?? Of course not.. I finally found a great carpenter (just wish he would do everything and not leave his employees to).. I have found a good communicating mechanic, who actually knows what hes doing and doesnt cut corners to save 10 baht. But in the main blundering in and screwing up a job they didnt really have the skills for seems commonplace.

Poor old magoo,what a sad existance,sitting at a PC all day trying to make smart replies regarding technical things that he admits knowing SFA about.

I am sure I have met magoo, I am positive he is the guy sitting all alone at the end of every bar I ever went into simply because people avoid him .

I wonder why people dont like him, might it be his anti social behavior or simply because he spent to long with a shaved head and hob-nailed boots to learn social skills.

Might make a good thread... Why is Maigo6 such a misery a*se.??

Please forgive him ,hes already said he has dirt and straw on his floor,so a wealth of knowledge regarding different surfaces wont be his forte !

I'm pretty expert on dirt and straw if that's any use to any Farangs out there, I'm on the bones of my azz and if you need a consultant on dirt and straw, I'm your man.

I'm also a dab hand with corrugated roofing, as long as it's second hand and nearly eaten through with rust.

Poor old magoo,what a sad existance,sitting at a PC all day trying to make smart replies regarding technical things that he admits knowing SFA about.

I am sure I have met magoo, I am positive he is the guy sitting all alone at the end of every bar I ever went into simply because people avoid him .

I wonder why people dont like him, might it be his anti social behavior or simply because he spent to long with a shaved head and hob-nailed boots to learn social skills.

Might make a good thread... Why is Maigo6 such a misery a*se.??

Poor old magoo,what a sad existance,sitting at a PC all day trying to make smart replies regarding technical things that he admits knowing SFA about.

I am sure I have met magoo, I am positive he is the guy sitting all alone at the end of every bar I ever went into simply because people avoid him .

I wonder why people dont like him, might it be his anti social behavior or simply because he spent to long with a shaved head and hob-nailed boots to learn social skills.

Might make a good thread... Why is Maigo6 such a misery a*se.??

LOL...

Good one Ozzy, I really did Laugh Out Loud.

Maigo6 Now I see why you have 2,687 posts.

I'm just a lurker waiting to hurl insults at people cos I've nothing better to do with my day, I don't take it personal either.

It comes from all the time you spend in "lurking and hurling". <- which I hear has been recently approved as an Olympic sport.

BACK ON TOPIC:

Surprisingly I found the book; "How To Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk" to be instrumental in my interactions with thais. Before the wanna-b-thais get their panties bunched, I am NOT suggesting thais are children or should be treated as such (possibly the first pro-thai thing I've said on T/V) only that there are effective tools in the book which works on the ingrained thai mindset/mentality which can be used for a good outcome in a majority of situations.

The OP asked What it takes to get them to listen? translation; Thais don't listen, well here is a good example. my 9 yr old son and I were in the states this summer and I asked him to tell the waitress we need something. He came back and said with great surprise and excitment in his voice: Dad she lsitened to me. I asked: So, what did you expect? He replied: "At home (koh samui) they don't look at me and just blow me off when I try to talk to them" from the mouth of babes!

And speaking Thai dosent help,! i have a very good friend thats a doctor here and is fluent, its even worse for him as they DO understand him and still do it wrong !,.Reading some posters comments here i think they are in a different Thailand to some of us,.and its to be expected that some members have come galloping in as Thai defenders and to you i say you are lucky if you have never expereinced some of the problems others are discussing,.but to say it dosent exist is a joke,.

maigo6 and his likes are SEXpats.

they stay in cheap furnished studios, and only hang around bar girls, waitress and food cart vendors

They speak thais because they dont have the funds to live the life of a farang/bkk thai/ in thailand so they try to be at the level of thai farmers, who are quite happy with 4 walls, a leaky roof and some colon meat.

don't worry, most of the normal farangs, just read this post.. sigh in approval and keep going on.

Colon meat Brilliant, just wet myself

maigo6 and his likes are SEXpats.

they stay in cheap furnished studios, and only hang around bar girls, waitress and food cart vendors

They speak thais because they dont have the funds to live the life of a farang/bkk thai/ in thailand so they try to be at the level of thai farmers, who are quite happy with 4 walls, a leaky roof and some colon meat.

don't worry, most of the normal farangs, just read this post.. sigh in approval and keep going on.

LOL...............

Funny.............. totally pathetic................... but funny nevertheless.

on a serious note, how do you expect these low class thai to mature and develop normal brain functioons of a 5 year old eating chicken feet/colon meat/cow's heart and other trash that has no decent nutriment add to that that most of them drink the 'cooking water' instead of bottled water...

Im pretty sure if they were fed decent parts of animals, things would be a lot better.. thais wouldnt have one of the 10 lowest iq's for children from all around the world

probably the same effect eating kfc on ghetto families in the usa has...

on a serious note, how do you expect these low class thai to mature and develop normal brain functioons of a 5 year old eating chicken feet/colon meat/cow's heart and other trash that has no decent nutriment add to that that most of them drink the 'cooking water' instead of bottled water...

Im pretty sure if they were fed decent parts of animals, things would be a lot better.. thais wouldnt have one of the 10 lowest iq's for children from all around the world

probably the same effect eating kfc on ghetto families in the usa has...

Probably one item that most Thais are not aware of let alone use , is iodized salt , lack of iodine in the body produces retardation of the brain , put that together with a diet that contains insufficient calories and you may have some answers . What i have seen is that they use mostly coarse salt of the variety and far too much sugar in most of what they consume .

Probably one item that most Thais are not aware of let alone use , is iodized salt , lack of iodine in the body produces retardation of the brain , put that together with a diet that contains insufficient calories and you may have some answers . What i have seen is that they use mostly coarse salt of the variety and far too much sugar in most of what they consume .

So you came to Thailand to look slightly intelligent ?

You failed miserably.

on a serious note, how do you expect these low class thai to mature and develop normal brain functioons of a 5 year old eating chicken feet/colon meat/cow's heart and other trash that has no decent nutriment add to that that most of them drink the 'cooking water' instead of bottled water...

Im pretty sure if they were fed decent parts of animals, things would be a lot better.. thais wouldnt have one of the 10 lowest iq's for children from all around the world

probably the same effect eating kfc on ghetto families in the usa has...

Probably one item that most Thais are not aware of let alone use , is iodized salt , lack of iodine in the body produces retardation of the brain , put that together with a diet that contains insufficient calories and you may have some answers . What i have seen is that they use mostly coarse salt of the variety and far too much sugar in most of what they consume .

The local clinic in the wifes village give out free bags of iodized salt to every household, I helped carry the last lot and asked what it was for and who payed for it. The government give it free.

The local clinic in the wifes village give out free bags of iodized salt to every household, I helped carry the last lot and asked what it was for and who payed for it. The government give it free.

OK Gymshark, so that accounts for your condition, but what about the rest of the posters on ThaiVisa ?

Did they also have the job of carrying large bags of iodized salt in a village ?

The local clinic in the wifes village give out free bags of iodized salt to every household, I helped carry the last lot and asked what it was for and who payed for it. The government give it free.

OK Gymshark, so that accounts for your condition, but what about the rest of the posters on ThaiVisa ?

Did they also have the job of carrying large bags of iodized salt in a village ?

My condition? Whatever do you mean sir? A more well balanced individual you should never hope to meet.

on a serious note, how do you expect these low class thai to mature and develop normal brain functioons of a 5 year old eating chicken feet/colon meat/cow's heart and other trash that has no decent nutriment add to that that most of them drink the 'cooking water' instead of bottled water...

Im pretty sure if they were fed decent parts of animals, things would be a lot better.. thais wouldnt have one of the 10 lowest iq's for children from all around the world

probably the same effect eating kfc on ghetto families in the usa has...

Probably one item that most Thais are not aware of let alone use , is iodized salt , lack of iodine in the body produces retardation of the brain , put that together with a diet that contains insufficient calories and you may have some answers . What i have seen is that they use mostly coarse salt of the variety and far too much sugar in most of what they consume .

The local clinic in the wifes village give out free bags of iodized salt to every household, I helped carry the last lot and asked what it was for and who payed for it. The government give it free.

they should start giving i-can-read broshures with pictuers only of animals circling legs and breast as good and rest as bad that would up the national iq by a lot probably

Do you really think thais are not eating sufficient calories with all the rice they eat? i know the girls aren't since all they eat is those dam_n weird tasting veggies in sauce but guys seem to eat rice all day long from what i see.

Last winter i fed my gf 3 daily meals of western food. lots of calories.. during that time she was more active, less stupidly emotiona and was more coherent at all time, now shes back on thai food.. she's often loopy(just gave birth so it doesnt help), tired and forgeting words that she definately knows. the thai diet is definately missing a LOT which is why i forcefeed here 2 big glass of milk minimum everynight, so that her brain doesnt deteriorate...

Didnt have that problem in bangkok though, no farmer's market close and street vendors sold more meat