Hiya all,

I consulted with sheryll a while back regarding my syptoms. Since then, I have had a CT scan, MRI and a Electrodiagnostic report. Nothing!

Doc's at Bangkok Pattaaya did trace a tumour/mass upper right thigh which I had removed today at Samitivej Sriracha..the mass has been sent on to to pathology, so won't know until next week if it's benign. I still however have the numbess and pins/nessdles, so the removel of this tumour/mass has made no difference. Doc's at Samitivej don't know the answer.

Any ideas?

Hiya all,

I consulted with sheryll a while back regarding my syptoms. Since then, I have had a CT scan, MRI and a Electrodiagnostic report. Nothing!

Doc's at Bangkok Pattaaya did trace a tumour/mass upper right thigh which I had removed today at Samitivej Sriracha..the mass has been sent on to to pathology, so won't know until next week if it's benign. I still however have the numbess and pins/nessdles, so the removel of this tumour/mass has made no difference. Doc's at Samitivej don't know the answer.

Any ideas?

Do you have herpes?

what is herpes?

Oh yeah, by the way, forgot to mention, I'm a woman.

Oh yeah, by the way, forgot to mention, I'm a woman.

Women can get herpes too you know..

The reason I mention it is that you went to a hospital and they (i imagine) have looked for all the obvious things like constricted blood flow and pinched nerves.

Herpes is a virus that lives in nervecells, the typical route of infection is via body fluids on skin, infection of hair follicles and the virus travels down and resides in the nerve endings for the rest of ones natural life.

Herpes can travel along nervecells and the unlucky person could experience this much as you describe.

I am no expert but I think this is somewhat rare though not unheard of.

I certainly don't mean to imply that you are one of the 60 plus percent of the world population that is herpes seropositive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex (warning some explicit pictures)

It is an interesting virus.

Besides that, I would recommend that you ask your Doctor for medical advice, not random people on TV.

Increasing blood flow could be beneficial but you never know what could be obstructing it if that is indeed the case.

Hiya all,

I consulted with sheryll a while back regarding my syptoms. Since then, I have had a CT scan, MRI and a Electrodiagnostic report. Nothing!

Doc's at Bangkok Pattaaya did trace a tumour/mass upper right thigh which I had removed today at Samitivej Sriracha..the mass has been sent on to to pathology, so won't know until next week if it's benign. I still however have the numbess and pins/nessdles, so the removel of this tumour/mass has made no difference. Doc's at Samitivej don't know the answer.

Any ideas?

I don't know for sure but I think it might take a while to recover feeling if nerves were pinched or damaged. Often happened to me with football injuries.

Main thing is the mass was removed.

As I understand it, the vast majority of lumps are benign.

Hiya all,

I consulted with sheryll a while back regarding my syptoms. Since then, I have had a CT scan, MRI and a Electrodiagnostic report. Nothing!

Doc's at Bangkok Pattaaya did trace a tumour/mass upper right thigh which I had removed today at Samitivej Sriracha..the mass has been sent on to to pathology, so won't know until next week if it's benign. I still however have the numbess and pins/nessdles, so the removel of this tumour/mass has made no difference. Doc's at Samitivej don't know the answer.

Any ideas?

Years ago, my son had a similar problem with numbness and tingling in his arm. An exam discovered a tumor near his elbow. It was removed and found to be benign. It seems the numbness was because the growth was located near or around some nerves. Unfortunately, the numbness continued, evidently because of the surgery trying to remove the growth. Or it may be the nerve was already damaged because of the growth. The surgeon repeatedly said the numbness would go away in time, but it never did. His arm is still a bit numb, but he's gotten used to it and doesn't really think about it anymore.

google neuropatthy. You will find the answer there and yes its nerve damage, I know I have it

I am not medically qualified, but pins and needles it's nerves, most probably sciatic nerve.

it can be irritated by the spine, where the root of the nerve can be pressed on by the disc or other structures or in some 15% of population it runs through the piriformis muscle - if that muscle is too tight it squises the sciatic nerve, hence the symptoms.

lower back/sciatic nerve problems are more common in females than males, especially during/after pregnancy, because of the changes in pelvis.

Numbness and pins and needles can be symptoms of a compressed nerve simular to sciatica coming from L4 L5 region ,maybe check a chiropractor and have get a pelvic adjustment to see if that relieves the symptoms.

Thanks for the replies so far . The CT and MRI scan did initially suggest mild damage to the lumbar L4, L5 region, However the Electric diagnostic test ruled out any connection regarding the numbness/pins and needles. The so called mass/tumour which was removed yesterday appears not to be the cause either. If the Doc's don't know, well I'm at a loss as to what the underlying cause is!

as somebody has already mentioned - nerves do need time to heal, wait at least a weeek and see if the symptoms are changing. You had that tumour, most probably, for many years, so it might be weeks/months before the things settle down.

Sounds to me, at first blush, like the "lateral cutaneous femoral nerve" is involved. There is a fancy old fashioned name for it, "meralgia paresthetica".

There are various ways the nerve can be subject to compression or stretch injury.

That's just a guess based on the area affected, but as to the cause, it is kind of hard to know with limited information.

You could google it for more info to see if it sounds like what you've got.

Good luck.

Firstly, congratulations on being the first person since 1980 to not know what herpes is. I can remember the day when it was in the top ten most-used words in English, up there with 'the' & 'and'.

(It's a virus which lives in your nerve ganglia which periodically erupts onto your skin or mucosal tissue and causes blisters & pain for about ten days. Most people get it around the mouth (which tends to be Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1) or genitals (which tends to be the more virulent HSV2).)

Anyway, the infection can cause 'referred pain' to various parts - legs, feet, for example. So it could be that. You can get a blod test to see if you have it; and swabs to see if you have it 'down there'.

If not - or even if so - I find that a healthy lifestyle abolishes most ailments - including herpes, which I had for a while.

We're a paleolithic species, basically, & we are therefore designed for regularly daily exercise, good quantities of vegetables, fruit & lean meat, and to live in mutually dependent communities.

There's a fair bit more to it than the above, but that's the essence. The degree to which you depart from the evolutionary norm is the degree to which you will invite new friends like herpes, cancer, heart disease, & a thousand miscellaneous aches and pains into your life.

jingjingna, I've had a similar thing occur with r thigh. The doc I went to had answer straight away, in my case anyway. Sounds really complicated but wasn't. I forget the names but an inner muscle was involved. A very easy and safe stretch was the answer.

Lie on floor on back, bring right foot up towards buttock, hold r knee and bring over left leg as though trying to touch floor on left side. Do for as long as comfortable (seconds at a time is fine) and repeat as desired or as comfortable. Relax and breath between goes. May feel strange, and/or very uncomfortable, but just do it as gently as you like - don't force. You may find that it disappears quite quickly, but it also may return. Just repeat.

Same goes for the other leg of course, but in reverse, naturally. It may not help at all of course, but it seems to me to be an easy and simple way to approach what my turn out to have been no biggie. Cheers and good luck

Jingjingna I had the exact same symptons as a side effect of taking Cyclosporin (Neoral). Went to see my Doctor and a neuro specialist had all the scans and they didnt know what was causing it. The effects went about 3 months after I stopped taking the drug. I later went on a forum for people who use Cyclosporin... and guess what!... there were loads of people with the same symptons.

Agree with zzdoc above; Lateral Cuteneous nerve of the thigh; passes under the inguinal ligament and is sometimes pinched in obese people.

X-ray of the spine will be normal as well as MRIs etc. careful exam of the affected area by an orthopedic doc should clearly outline the area supplied by the nerve and if your symptoms correspond, it is usually it.

The location and nature of the "tumor" removed is obviously important but unlikely to be the cause.

Thanks for all the info folks!

Three weeks later, condidition still the same, no better no worse...just bugging me as to why? Have heard many suggestons', which do not apply to me including Herpes.

Starting to give up...50,000 Baht down and still no amswered...Lost in Thailand!

Jingjingna, just curious, but have you seen a neurologist?

as somebody has already mentioned - nerves do need time to heal, wait at least a weeek and see if the symptoms are changing.

A lot longer than that perhaps

I have suffered from peripheral neuropathy before and remember reading the nerves grow at about a millimetre a month, numb toe-ends took a couple of months or so.

Since then I've had such serious spasms from lower back problems that I lost the use of two muscles, numb patches, and even started having a numb penis.

5 years later one of the muscles is long back, inner calf useless and more or less missing from non use (but unnecessary it seems!), still a numb heel etc, and you'll be glad to hear the old fella is completely up to scratch.

I don't expect any change now.

No big deal.