every kid can watch bloody movies where every 10 seconds someone get killed. But genitals or sex....everyone is shocked and sure that will damage the young one.....

It's getting more difficult to see the blood on UBC though. They even blur out a person's mouth when they are smoking a cigarette...isn't that something. I can see more blood on the local Pattaya News than on movies now.

every kid can watch bloody movies where every 10 seconds someone get killed. But genitals or sex....everyone is shocked and sure that will damage the young one.....

It's getting more difficult to see the blood on UBC though. They even blur out a person's mouth when they are smoking a cigarette...isn't that something. I can see more blood on the local Pattaya News than on movies now.

They even blur the ads for cig when the showed F1 racing few yrs ago ....ridicules…don’t know if they still doing it.

I was in a cafe in Pattaya and noticed that the very nice lady next to me moved the camera between her legs. A sideways glance at her screen revieled no Knickers !! Luvely Jubbly I thought until shortly after the screen switched to her partner in crime who's bell end then filled the screen. O.k while it lasted though. There were kids playing a video game next to her, Ragnarok I think, and although they noticed and laughed they couldn't take their eyes of their game as one of them had a pretty high score. Maybe we worry about kids too much and forget we were once kids ourselves and survived it.

If you think instilling proper ethics in small children is a bad thing,

think the meds need to be adjusted...

Patterns for life are instilled at the EARLIEST ages, 2-3 is a prime age for

basic ethical problems to be dealt with. By ages 6-9 they are mostly formed

in their ethical functioning. They may not KNOW the word 'ethics',

but the concepts are there none the less.

After that many pre-teens and teens throw it out the window for a few years,

but eventually return to those EARLY lessons on fairness and straight dealing.

IF there got them on the first place.

If someone you DIDN'T hate with a passion said this then you would be cheering.

About as Fair and Balanced as FOX NEWS.

If you think instilling proper ethics in small children is a bad thing,

think the meds need to be adjusted...

Patterns for life are instilled at the EARLIEST ages, 2-3 is a prime age for

basic ethical problems to be dealt with. By ages 6-9 they are mostly formed

in their ethical functioning. They may not KNOW the word 'ethics',

but the concepts are there none the less.

If someone you DIDN'T hate with a passion said this then you would be cheering.

About as Fair and Balanced as FOX NEWS.

it was not from FOX but from the TOC channel.

http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1009642

and i don't think that i need meds if i don't believe everything what the PAD is talking.

and i don't think it should be a government or state controlled business what to teach 2-3 years old kids what the government think are the "moral values and ethics".

that will be only brainwash. what is the definition of "proper ethics"?

2-3 years not only don't know the word ethics they are just too young for that concept behind. you can not instill those values in them. they are too young. every try would be "poisonous pedagogy"

read here about 3 years old and their sense for fairness.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v454/...ature07155.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/27/...in4389606.shtml

and if someone else would come up, with such a state controlled pedagogy for under 3 years old, i would not cheering it. that is not government business. such "projects" have been run by the stalinists and the so called socialist states, you will found something like this also in hard core religious societies.

that is exactly that what Karl Popper warn us against when he said:

“But of all political ideals, that of making the people happy is perhaps the most dangerous one. It leads invariably to the attempt to impose our scale of ‘higher’ values upon others, in order to make them realize what seems to us of greatest importance for their happiness; in order, as it were, to save their souls. It leads to Utopianism and Romanticism. We all feel certain that everybody would be happy in the beautiful, the perfect community of our dreams. And no doubt, there would be heaven on earth if we could all love one another. But, as I have said before, the attempt to make heaven on earth invaliably produces hel_l”

but for sure a hard core believer in the PAD cult, will never see the flaws and wrongs of the PAD cult. listen to the PAD stage speeches, that " Internet Chatters Display Genitals Through Webcams" is all taksins fault, that are the bad results of market liberalisation, consumerism, capitalism and western blight and influence. but the PAD knows the solution.

so called re-education camps we have seen in lenins russia, in vietnam, in laos after '75, under the khmer rouge, in north korea and so on. all with the goal to instill "proper ethics". now the PAD cult is talking about new pedagogy. and i think is a bad thing.

Could you just leave this topic from being violated by your rants regarding PAD? Thank you.

Could you just leave this topic from being violated by your rants regarding PAD? Thank you.

the TOPIC is about a Child Watch report, right? the PAD movement takes the same Child Watch report to announce their idea of pedagogy and how such negative developments can be prevented. the PAD education concept just sounds like another totalitarian BS.

read here:

http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1009642

that is on topic.

and in case you don't know - PAD is the opposite of libertarian. but do you know what libertarian stands for?

sorry if that disturbs some fantasies about underage lesbian girls or raunchy reports out of pattayas internet cafes about "nice lady next to me... no Knickers !!"

or want you talk about the low quality journalism of The Nation that reports about a seminar on child welfare in that level and completely miss the main point in favour for a catchy headline.

Yet again you show that you not only lack any manner but that you also completely lack any ability to read or comprehend anything but yourself write on this board.

I have never said that I support a regime lead by any PAD-elements.

And yes, I'm highly aware of what Libertarian means.

You on the other side is just a trite bore.

Gentlemen, it appears this topic has nearly run its course. The report was very poorly worded, and now is being twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, or something more Thai.

Well, just close it then. You are the mod.

Could you just leave this topic from being violated by your rants regarding PAD? Thank you.

the TOPIC is about a Child Watch report, right? the PAD movement takes the same Child Watch report to announce their idea of pedagogy and how such negative developments can be prevented. the PAD education concept just sounds like another totalitarian BS.

read here:

http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/toc/ViewData...?DataID=1009642

that is on topic.

and in case you don't know - PAD is the opposite of libertarian...

Well, just close it then. You are the mod.

Yes, better close this thread. Clearly Plus and Tawp have no response.

JetsetBkk>> What are you on about? And flaming other members is against the rules.

I agree.

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