Barack Obama Elected President Of USA

[sabaijai]

Just because he is dark skinned doesn't make him 'black', as he is in fact mixed.

The term 'black' doesn't refer to the colour black it represents the idea of 'not-white'. How many people have you met with naturally black skin?

That's something I learned (very early on) at a school you didn't go to.

Sounds like you went to a school in South Africa. In America, "black" refers to negroes.

Right, and you are a troll from Dixieland.

Huh? Have you ever even been to America? Because you certainly aren't American if you think "black" is a blanket term for anyone non-white.

Barrack is 50% white so you are correct, from an ethnological perspective he is due the label 'white' just as much as he is 'black'. But in racially divided America, anything that detracts from your whiteness draws the label 'black'. 'Caucasian' means 100% white, and anything else means a tick in one of the other 'boxes.'

Unfortunately no racially blind paradises yet exist on this planet and in 'Western' countries white is 'normal' and anything else is 'marked'. One day white-majority countries will hopefully grow beyond that -- or perhaps only when they become 'formerly white-majority.'

All that aside -- I am very glad for this election result if for nothing else than the fact it has brought a few moments of near-world unity.

[Seizhin]

Good work, I've always been a Republican supporter, but this time, the individual of Obama is just more than interesting.

I hope he knows what to do with the mess now, create a history, we're rooting for you Obama!

[Jingthing]

The people have spoken and they have spoken clearly.

Look folks, the election is over, the election wasn't close, it wasn't disputed, it wasn't selected by the supreme court as Bush was in 2000, so I find the dark hearted folks who won't let it go at least until this potentially great man is even IN OFFICE to be sad and pitiful. Yes, I defend their right to vent, but it isn't the right time. He is now the president of all Americans and its time to give him a chance.

There are certain individuals that transcend party and rigid ideology and Obama clearly MAY be one of those and I really find the nay sayers THIS EARLY distasteful. Are you helping our country which is clearly in crisis by trashing your new president? Weren't you for the so called Country First candidate? So, you didn't really mean it?

Edited November 5, 2008 by Jingthing

[AlKing]

Good work, I've always been a Republican supporter, but this time, the individual of Obama is just more than interesting.

I hope he knows what to do with the mess now, create a history, we're rooting for you Obama!

Please do not mention the word "Republican" in Thailand. The police may put you in jail.

"Democrate" however is very welcome here, at the PAD PM office ground.

[djleeflorida]

Russians and the rest of the *&^&^$@!!Y 's are testing Obama already. No activity from anyone for the last month of the campaign and now the first day elected.

"Massive' Cross-Border Rocket Barrage Fired From Gaza Strip by Palestinian Militants"

MOSCOW — President Dmitry Medvedev says Russia will deploy missiles in its Baltic Sea territory in response to U.S. missile defense plans. Medvedev says the short-range Iskander missiles will be deployed to the Kaliningrad region which borders NATO members Poland and Lithuania. He has not said how many missiles will be deployed or whether they will be fitted with nuclear warheads.

What is N. Korea going to do today?

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea released a new batch of photographs of Kim Jong Il on Wednesday, apparently seeking to show that the country's absolute leader is not ill and has no problem in running the communist regime.

North Korea is building a new missile launch site capable of firing an even longer-range missile than the country has tested in the past, South Korea's defense minister said Tuesday.

Iran: plans to block the Strait of Hormuz cutting off 30-40% of the worlds oil..

Many around the world wanted Obama elected-so lets see how he does. As a proud American I remember all the democrats saying if Bush was elected they would move to Canada (Never happened). Now that Obama is elected, I think I will move to Thailand. (See ya in Feb!)

[Sarge]

The people have spoken and they have spoken clearly.

Look folks, the election is over, the election wasn't close, it wasn't disputed, it wasn't selected by the supreme court as Bush was in 2000, so I find the dark hearted folks who won't let it go at least until this potentially great man is even IN OFFICE to be sad and pitiful. Yes, I defend their right to vent, but it isn't the right time. He is now the president of all Americans and its time to give him a chance.

There are certain individuals that transcend party and rigid ideology and Obama clearly MAY be one of those and I really find the nay sayers THIS EARLY distasteful. Are you helping our country which is clearly in crisis by trashing your new president? Weren't you for the so called Country First candidate? So, you didn't really mean it?

what loads of cobblers, man don't give up your day job yet, next you'll tell us you're an American political commentator. giz a break. NObama has been freshly elected with a 52.35% popular vote (just updated) so it means 47.65% did not vote for him. Almost half of the voters. He may or may not turn out to be a great President, too early to say. But a lot of people disagree with you and they're entitled to make their points. It's not that we're still discussing the outcome of the election 6 months down the line. It just happened, it still happening.

[BigBikeBKK]

In the pre-capitalist reality, James Madison said when he put power in the hands of the business elite, he would be entrusting "enlightened statesmen and benevolent philosophers who would devote themselves to the welfare of all."

Clearly, he believed this statement in the way some modern Republicans do. The only problem was that he eventually realized this didn't work and in 1792, disillusioned and worried about the democratic experiment, condemned what he called "the daring depravity of the times." He went on to denounce the business elites who, given ultimate power, "become tools and tyrants of government...they overwhelm government with their powers and combinations and are bribed by its largesse." That's how he perceived the system he had helped design. In 2008, this is an apt description of the Republican relationship to government and power.

The neocons disgrace themselves and their country as they lie, smear, slur and write it off as political manner.

Yet the creeping truth must frighten them late at night: there is no currency left to buy the big lies. There is no more money left to loan or borrow the big lies or to sell them. No more money left to pay off the debt, the wreckage in the wake. The orgy of excess has drained every bottle, smashed the furniture and left the cupboards bare. All that's left is derivative debts -- bets between liars and lies. Trillions of dollars. Turned capitalism into a Ponzi scheme for trading worthless paper. No real value anywhere. No matter how much money Ben Bernanke prints.

We watched millionaires and paid Republican hacks appear on television yelling "Socialist!" at Obama.

These are the same people who oversaw the greatest upward redistribution of wealth in the history of this country. The same people who, through general lawlessness and a privatization frenzy, succeeded in shredding the Constitution, turning war, illegal domestic spying, security, border patrol, interrogation, and even torture into profitable industries gorging on the state.

With 630 corporations like Blackwater and Halliburton getting 40% of the $2 billion spent each week in Iraq, no one can doubt the corporate dominance of the Bush / Cheney war machine.

Instead of an international consensus based on trust and global community, the Neocons say trust no one, need no one, ask no one.

After enduring 8 years of neocon deceipt American voters have finally voted for change.

The real challenge for the new administration is to erase the delusion that greed equals freedom and prosperity, let alone the hideous lie that it somehow spreads justice.

Can we do it?

YES WE CAN!

Edited November 5, 2008 by BigBikeBKK

[Spee]

Here's a question for you Spee <deleted> does it matter if his middle name is Hussein ? are you just another person that think all muslim's are evil ? do you know how common the name Hussein is for muslims or are you just a retard ?

You need to look at http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bali-Bombers....html&st=75 , where Spee takes an obsessive interest in Obama's bloodlines.

Actually, I take an obsessive interest in facts, especially when people go to extraordinary means to avoid them.

- Fact: Hussein is Obama's middle name.

- Fact: The origin of the name Hussein is Arabic.

- Fact: Obama's father was a Muslim.

- Fact: In Arab-Muslim culture, the passing of the father's name to the son is also the passing of religious denomination.

- Fact: Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim. His mother was a known atheist and his father a known Muslim.

What I find interesting is that rather than simply admit to all of these various facts of heritage, Obama has avoided the issue like the plague and got visibly upset when people challenged him on it. I honestly couldn't give a shit what his lineage, heritage or religion are. But the fact that Obama and all of his handlers have gone to extraordinary means to avoid discussion of the issue obviously means there is a big rotting stinking smelly skeleton in the closet (probably more than one).

All I honestly really care about with Obama is whether or not he represents views similar to mine and is capable of doing the job. The answers to both of those questions are claring red-flag no's. His views are everything that mine are not. And he is not capable of doing the job. Rather he has shown only to be capable of being managed and manipulated by other forces. I believe that history will show him as an incompetent 4-and-outer just like the peanut farmer.

[koheesti]

Just because he is dark skinned doesn't make him 'black', as he is in fact mixed.

The term 'black' doesn't refer to the colour black it represents the idea of 'not-white'. How many people have you met with naturally black skin?

That's something I learned (very early on) at a school you didn't go to.

Sounds like you went to a school in South Africa. In America, "black" refers to negroes.

Right, and you are a troll from Dixieland.

Huh? Have you ever even been to America? Because you certainly aren't American if you think "black" is a blanket term for anyone non-white.

Barrack is 50% white so you are correct, from an ethnological perspective he is due the label 'white' just as much as he is 'black'. But in racially divided America, anything that detracts from your whiteness draws the label 'black'. 'Caucasian' means 100% white, and anything else means a tick in one of the other 'boxes.'

Unfortunately no racially blind paradises yet exist on this planet and in 'Western' countries white is 'normal' and anything else is 'marked'. One day white-majority countries will hopefully grow beyond that -- or perhaps only when they become 'formerly white-majority.'

All that aside -- I am very glad for this election result if for nothing else than the fact it has brought a few moments of near-world unity.

Arabs aren't called "black" in America. Neither are Indians or Pakistanis.

Here's the 2000 US Census demographics on race: http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2000/dp1/2kh00.pdf

Interestingly, in Russia, people from the Caucasas Mountains region (Chechens, Georgians, Armenians, Azeri) are called chyornii (black). My Russian friend's eyes would pop out when I told them in America they would be classified Caucasian. That was always good for a laugh.

[Spee]

He is now the president of all Americans and its time to give him a chance.

Wrong again on both counts (dare I say, as usual).

He is not the President. He is the President-elect.

And now is not the time to "give him a chance." Now is the time to start building a fiscally conservative, freedom-loving, libertarian stance upon which to fight his socialist anti-American agenda, which includes robbing the rich and productive to give handouts to the poor and lazy, re-shaping the judiciary to rewrite the constitution, and the further extension of the role of government in the national economy.

Oh, by the way, for those who may not think that this may not be Thailand-related, you could not be more mistaken. Given the chance, Obama's policies will weaken America. A weaker America is not in Thailand's best interests, both strategically and economically.

[Jingthing]

He is now the president of all Americans and its time to give him a chance.

Wrong again on both counts (dare I say, as usual).

He is not the President. He is the President-elect.

And now is not the time to "give him a chance." Now is the time to start building a fiscally conservative, freedom-loving, libertarian stance upon which to fight his socialist anti-American agenda, which includes robbing the rich and productive to give handouts to the poor and lazy, re-shaping the judiciary to rewrite the constitution, and the further extension of the role of government in the national economy.

Oh, by the way, for those who may not think that this may not be Thailand-related, you could not be more mistaken. Given the chance, Obama's policies will weaken America. A weaker America is not in Thailand's best interests, both strategically and economically.

You are correct, he is the president elect. Its just that the current president is so irrelevant its easy to forget that he is still in office.

You have every right to start to organize against policies that haven't even been formally proposed yet. Knock yourself out. But calling Obama a socialist and anti-American, that is offensive, and most Americans will reject your vile smears. It also funny how you jump to the conclusion that Obama will weaken America when there is clear evidence that GW Bush is almost universally reviled, and Obama is almost universally admired. Of course, his honeymoon can't last forever, with ideologue zealots like you, he gets no honeymoon at all, again your right, but its nasty.

Have a nasty day, regrets that you can't share the tears of joy that people are feeling all over the world:

Edited November 5, 2008 by Jingthing

[BigBikeBKK]

All I honestly really care about with Obama is whether or not he represents views similar to mine and is capable of doing the job. The answers to both of those questions are claring red-flag no's. His views are everything that mine are not. And he is not capable of doing the job. Rather he has shown only to be capable of being managed and manipulated by other forces. I believe that history will show him as an incompetent 4-and-outer just like the peanut farmer.

Thank goodness we have a new President who does not share your views! You claim you are interested in facts yet there is hardly a single fact in any of your posts... You've made a lot of wild accusations without any facts to back them up.

I take great comfort in the fact that President Obama has chosen the experienced statesman Joe Biden as his VP- Obama's choice in running mate shows his wisdom and good judgement. Contrast that to McCain's choice of that Palin bimbo.

And let's not forget the stunning endorsement by former Republican Secretary of State General Colin Powell.

“I don’t believe [Palin] is ready to be president of the United States,” Powell said flatly. By contrast, Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, “is ready to be president on day one.”

Powell also told NBC’s Tom Brokaw that he was “troubled” by Republicans’ personal attacks on Obama, especially false intimations that Obama was Muslim.

Stressing that Obama was a lifelong Christian, Powell denounced Republican tactics that he said were insulting not only to to Obama but also to Muslims. “The really right answer is what if he is?” Powell said, praising the contributions of millions of Muslim citizens to American society.

Powell said a major part of his decision to turn his back on his own party was his conclusion that Obama was the better option to repair frayed U.S. relations with allies overseas. “This is the time for outreach,” Powell said, saying the next president would have to “reach out and show the world there is a new administration that is willing to reach out.”

In particular, he said, he welcomed Obama’s president to “talk to people we haven’t talked to,” a reference to Obama’s controversial statement that he would be open to direct diplomacy with Iranian leaders.

“I think that [Obama] has a definite way of doing business that will serve us well,” Powell said.

[endure]

I do understand the sentiment of Americans who now claim to be proud of America again. I congratulate them. I belong to the `rest of the world` where the election and the outcome are seen as a breath of fresh air, and maybe of a chance to do things a bit different now.

I don't understand that " skin" is an issue. Now he is not really black, or is black depending, on what side of the fence you are...

It is ridiculous for any country that would liked to be looked upon as free and tolerant, that this is even an issue.

Not many traditionally 'white' countries have had a black Head of State. (are there ANY other than South Africa, and can we count them?)

Granted, the UK and their puppies can't have one ... but have they had a black PM? Has France? has any country in Europe? (I honestly don't know but I don't think so!) What about the USA's liberal neighbors to the North? ....

The US has a black population approximately 6 times (in percentage terms) that of the UK so there's time yet. One good thing about the UK is that if Obama had lived here 40 years ago he wouldn't have to to sit at the back of the bus.

We have had a woman Prime Minister - 29 years ago. Does that count?

[pebbz]

Black, White, Green or Orange...does it matter? He doesn't have experience to lead a country. He doesn't have the moral values or character traits to earn my respect. Time will tell! I'm Native American (American Indian)....when will my people (who were also persecuted and murdered) get to lead America? We were on this continent first, by the way. But just because we were in America first, or just because my people were nearly wiped off the planet by greed (and politicians) doesn't make any of us qualified to lead an entire country. I don't care what color he is....and would you people stop crying about it! Dear God! How do you survive crying over a politician!? Do you sob and wail when there's only one piece of bread left for a sandwhich?

I don't really care who won. Politicians are all dirt-bags out to get rich off the people who are working hard to make ends meet. I don't want any of them. And at what point in history has world unity ever actually worked? There are too many greedy men (and women) out there struggling for the ultimate power hold. God save us all....because we can't save ourselves.

[jdinasia]

LOL ... sorry Spee

Barack Obama Sr (Barack Hussein Obama II's father -- the president-elect of the US) had already turned his back on Islam before he met Barry's mom! (according to Barack Obama -- if you can PROVE differently then feel free)

Your racist rants and anti-Islam rants and trying to 'smear' Obama with your BS didn't work in the US (it was tried and surprisingly the US voter rejected it!)

Instead they voted for the guy with the best chance to bring the US back from the brink of going the way of Russia (first amongst many as a major power in Europe .. and now almost inconsequential).

Edited November 5, 2008 by jdinasia

[jdinasia]

Black, White, Green or Orange...does it matter? He doesn't have experience to lead a country. He doesn't have the moral values or character traits to earn my respect. Time will tell! I'm Native American (American Indian)....when will my people (who were also persecuted and murdered) get to lead America? We were on this continent first, by the way. But just because we were in America first, or just because my people were nearly wiped off the planet by greed (and politicians) doesn't make any of us qualified to lead an entire country. I don't care what color he is....and would you people stop crying about it! Dear God! How do you survive crying over a politician!? Do you sob and wail when there's only one piece of bread left for a sandwhich?

I don't really care who won. Politicians are all dirt-bags out to get rich off the people who are working hard to make ends meet. I don't want any of them. And at what point in history has world unity ever actually worked? There are too many greedy men (and women) out there struggling for the ultimate power hold. God save us all....because we can't save ourselves.

Ignorance at it's best .......

I beg of you to explain how Barack Obama is less qualified than W was when W first took office. Obama at least has traveled and seen the world and has been exposed to something other than the wealthy in Texas and Saudi Arabia ...

I also would like you to explain Jimmy Carter in reference to "politicians are all dirt-bags out to get rich off the people".

[Spee]

It also funny how you jump to the conclusion that Obama will weaken America when there is clear evidence that GW Bush is almost universally reviled, and Obama is almost universally admired. Of course, his honeymoon can't last forever, with ideologue zealots like you, he gets no honeymoon at all, again your right, but its nasty.

As I've said many times, the last 2-3 years of the Bush administration have been a disaster. Bush sold out his core ideals to try to play nice with a rogue, out of controll Congress. This served the minorities and the special interests, and not the American majority. This whole pork-laden bailout is a travesty and anyone who voted for it should be held accountable. I have no doubts that McCain was held accountable (not that he was any leading prized candicate either).

As for the other poster with his tongue up Colin Powell's backside, he obviously doesn't know that Powell's only interests are serving Powell. He was promoted and advanced throughout his career by conservative Republicans. But when push came to shove, he turned his back on them in favor of race. And make no mistake about, Powell is a politician first, which means he is a top flight self-serving liar, first and foremost.

And if standing firm on the free market, small government ideals that made America great, and standing firm that personal liberty and economic freedom stand far above the reach of the federal government makes me an idealogue, then call me whatever you like because I am proud of what I am. At least I stand for something. I believe that I am everything that Obama is not, and so my only hope is that whatever he and his administration and the Congress are about to fuc_k up worse than it already is, then may they just get on with it quickly so that their whole sham may be exposed that much sooner.

What comes around, goes around. See you in 4 years. 'Nuf said.

[pebbz]

Shall I repeat myself? I don't care who won. I don't want any of them.

I'm a foster parent. Most of my children are African-American or Mexican-American. How will Obama help them? Let's challenge Obama to change the social service system for my foster children. Let's challenge Obama to encourage 12 year old girls from getting pregnant and people living on welfare to get a job and cut down on the amount of kids that come through my revolving door of foster care. And how about drugs? Let's see what he can change there! Most of my kids come from drug homes....and the group I have now? there are 6 of them! Their parents don't have jobs and they don't want jobs! Yet somehow they afford drugs but can't buy their children clothes. These are the parents that proudly supported Obama.

Now that would be a real change if he could do something about all that! If he could change any of the points I made above he would have my ultimate respect and support!

[Moonrakers]

I do understand the sentiment of Americans who now claim to be proud of America again. I congratulate them. I belong to the `rest of the world` where the election and the outcome are seen as a breath of fresh air, and maybe of a chance to do things a bit different now.

I don't understand that " skin" is an issue. Now he is not really black, or is black depending, on what side of the fence you are...

It is ridiculous for any country that would liked to be looked upon as free and tolerant, that this is even an issue.

Not many traditionally 'white' countries have had a black Head of State. (are there ANY other than South Africa, and can we count them?)

Granted, the UK and their puppies can't have one ... but have they had a black PM? Has France? has any country in Europe? (I honestly don't know but I don't think so!) What about the USA's liberal neighbors to the North? ....

The US has a black population approximately 6 times (in percentage terms) that of the UK so there's time yet. One good thing about the UK is that if Obama had lived here 40 years ago he wouldn't have to to sit at the back of the bus.

We have had a woman Prime Minister - 29 years ago. Does that count?

Thanks endure.

I was looking for that very statistic (% of Blacks/Whites) but for the life of me I couldn't find it.

Good call on the Iron Lady as well.

[skiman1]

I've been waiting 8 long years to put away my "I LUV Canada" t-shirts and proudly shout to the world again:

I AM AN AMERICAN AND I AM PROUD OF MY COUNTRY!!!

CHEERS ALL!!! Yes, I VOTED!!!

Both being Chinese living in Thailand, Sonthi said the same think when Thaksin won the election

I AM A THAI AND I AM PROUD OF MY COUNTRY!!!

And what happens now?

I hope you will always have reason to be proud of your great country - I love your Country as well. As for the American people - I think today is a great day for them and for the rest of the World - a chance to move on from one of the worst ever Western Leaders and real hope for the future - so lets all be hopeful and move forward, (please forgive spelling as I am a little drunk Tonight) !!

[jbowman1993]

It also funny how you jump to the conclusion that Obama will weaken America when there is clear evidence that GW Bush is almost universally reviled, and Obama is almost universally admired. Of course, his honeymoon can't last forever, with ideologue zealots like you, he gets no honeymoon at all, again your right, but its nasty.

As I've said many times, the last 2-3 years of the Bush administration have been a disaster. Bush sold out his core ideals to try to play nice with a rogue, out of controll Congress. This served the minorities and the special interests, and not the American majority. This whole pork-laden bailout is a travesty and anyone who voted for it should be held accountable. I have no doubts that McCain was held accountable (not that he was any leading prized candicate either).

As for the other poster with his tongue up Colin Powell's backside, he obviously doesn't know that Powell's only interests are serving Powell. He was promoted and advanced throughout his career by conservative Republicans. But when push came to shove, he turned his back on them in favor of race. And make no mistake about, Powell is a politician first, which means he is a top flight self-serving liar, first and foremost.

And if standing firm on the free market, small government ideals that made America great, and standing firm that personal liberty and economic freedom stand far above the reach of the federal government makes me an idealogue, then call me whatever you like because I am proud of what I am. At least I stand for something. I believe that I am everything that Obama is not, and so my only hope is that whatever he and his administration and the Congress are about to fuc_k up worse than it already is, then may they just get on with it quickly so that their whole sham may be exposed that much sooner.

What comes around, goes around. See you in 4 years. 'Nuf said.

You know what Spee's comments don't upset me? Cause his party and candidate lost, lol. He also fails to note that the election proved, without a shadow of doubt, on which side the American Majority stands. (and guess what Spee....its not with you )

[Jingthing]

What comes around, goes around. See you in 4 years. 'Nuf said.

I think it is too early to start the 2012 election. I can understand someone like you who is now totally out of power now might feel differently. I will say I think your fears of Obama are wildly exaggerated because it is clear he wants two terms and being a radical would ruin those chances.

[skiman1]

Black, White, Green or Orange...does it matter? He doesn't have experience to lead a country. He doesn't have the moral values or character traits to earn my respect. Time will tell! I'm Native American (American Indian)....when will my people (who were also persecuted and murdered) get to lead America? We were on this continent first, by the way. But just because we were in America first, or just because my people were nearly wiped off the planet by greed (and politicians) doesn't make any of us qualified to lead an entire country. I don't care what color he is....and would you people stop crying about it! Dear God! How do you survive crying over a politician!? Do you sob and wail when there's only one piece of bread left for a sandwhich?

I don't really care who won. Politicians are all dirt-bags out to get rich off the people who are working hard to make ends meet. I don't want any of them. And at what point in history has world unity ever actually worked? There are too many greedy men (and women) out there struggling for the ultimate power hold. God save us all....because we can't save ourselves.

Hey man how are you?

I read what you said and agree with some of it and certainly with what you say about politicians (normally) but I actually hold out some hope now for the USA on a lot of fronts. I think that the US has really stepped up today and made their intentions real - I also find it hard sometimes to believe politicians (UK + Thailand) as they will say anything for a vote.

Be proud today to be an American your country has had a fantastic day - enjoy it. You have stood up as a Nation and said "fuc_k YOU" to Bush and his criminal friends and the World is in awe - be proud of your process today - best wishes, A Scotsman in Paradise

[thailand_tom]

jan 20th is when obama is sworn in, my wife and i voted here in las vegas, and had a party last night, we have changed the course of the usa, foreign and domestic policies, bush economics to bushes cowboy foreign policy, we have elected a very bright man, someone who will deal with problems, with an even hand after thought first, i wish obama good luck.

[Moonrakers]

Actually, I take an obsessive interest in facts, especially when people go to extraordinary means to avoid them.

- Fact: Hussein is Obama's middle name.

- Fact: The origin of the name Hussein is Arabic.

- Fact: Obama's father was a Muslim.

- Fact: In Arab-Muslim culture, the passing of the father's name to the son is also the passing of religious denomination.

- Fact: Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim. His mother was a known atheist and his father a known Muslim.

What I find interesting is that rather than simply admit to all of these various facts of heritage, Obama has avoided the issue like the plague and got visibly upset when people challenged him on it. I honestly couldn't give a shit what his lineage, heritage or religion are. But the fact that Obama and all of his handlers have gone to extraordinary means to avoid discussion of the issue obviously means there is a big rotting stinking smelly skeleton in the closet (probably more than one).

And so would you care to enlighten us on what is wrong with a person being Muslim and/or from Arabic decent?

[tw25rw]

You know what Spee's comments don't upset me? Cause his party and candidate lost, lol. He also fails to note that the election proved, without a shadow of doubt, on which side the American Majority stands. (and guess what Spee....its not with you )

Why should it upset you? The fact that someone who thinks like that is suffering the sourest of sour grapes is a good thing! As is the fact that that individual and the deranged and fundamentally evil faction that control him will soon lose their grip on power.

Welcome back to the civilised world, USA!

[luangtom]

Shall I repeat myself? I don't care who won. I don't want any of them.

I'm a foster parent. Most of my children are African-American or Mexican-American. How will Obama help them? Let's challenge Obama to change the social service system for my foster children. Let's challenge Obama to encourage 12 year old girls from getting pregnant and people living on welfare to get a job and cut down on the amount of kids that come through my revolving door of foster care. And how about drugs? Let's see what he can change there! Most of my kids come from drug homes....and the group I have now? there are 6 of them! Their parents don't have jobs and they don't want jobs! Yet somehow they afford drugs but can't buy their children clothes. These are the parents that proudly supported Obama.

Now that would be a real change if he could do something about all that! If he could change any of the points I made above he would have my ultimate respect and support!

Here, here. I concur with what you have to say about the need to change the current system of social-welfare. It needs to be drastically reformed and revamped in the USA. It is a known fact that the Democrats in the USA get the majority share of the welfare vote. Their promises of increased program expenditures is what gets the free-loaders to vote Democratic in elections. A great example of this is the election of US Senator Wellstone in the state of Minnesota years ago. His promise to work for the welfare mothers of the state garnered him a majority. I am sure it happens in all other states, too. Right now in Atlanta, the African-American community is in the streets dancing and celebrating with drums that their candidate got elected. They are now espousing what "entitlements" they have coming for the oppression they have felt for the past decades. Get ready, America, it is coming to your community, too.

[BigBikeBKK]

I believe that I am everything that Obama is not, and so my only hope is that whatever he and his administration and the Congress are about to fuc_k up worse than it already is, then may they just get on with it quickly so that their whole sham may be exposed that much sooner.

Such eloquence and grace NOT!

Obama is the winner. By your simple logic that makes you a loser. Indeed Obama is everything you are not. That's why he won.

Did you actually listen to Obama's victory speech? Or McCain's concession speech? You think it's all lies and conspiracies? Talk about the lunatic fringe...

[NovaBlue05]

The people have spoken and they have spoken clearly.

Look folks, the election is over, the election wasn't close, it wasn't disputed, it wasn't selected by the supreme court as Bush was in 2000, so I find the dark hearted folks who won't let it go at least until this potentially great man is even IN OFFICE to be sad and pitiful. Yes, I defend their right to vent, but it isn't the right time. He is now the president of all Americans and its time to give him a chance.

I agree. It's done and it's time to be supportive and go with the flow rather than "awfulizing" the event based on speculation of what might or might not happen.

[jdinasia]

I do understand the sentiment of Americans who now claim to be proud of America again. I congratulate them. I belong to the `rest of the world` where the election and the outcome are seen as a breath of fresh air, and maybe of a chance to do things a bit different now.

I don't understand that " skin" is an issue. Now he is not really black, or is black depending, on what side of the fence you are...

It is ridiculous for any country that would liked to be looked upon as free and tolerant, that this is even an issue.

Not many traditionally 'white' countries have had a black Head of State. (are there ANY other than South Africa, and can we count them?)

Granted, the UK and their puppies can't have one ... but have they had a black PM? Has France? has any country in Europe? (I honestly don't know but I don't think so!) What about the USA's liberal neighbors to the North? ....

The US has a black population approximately 6 times (in percentage terms) that of the UK so there's time yet. One good thing about the UK is that if Obama had lived here 40 years ago he wouldn't have to to sit at the back of the bus.

We have had a woman Prime Minister - 29 years ago. Does that count?

Thanks endure.

I was looking for that very statistic (% of Blacks/Whites) but for the life of me I couldn't find it.

Good call on the Iron Lady as well.

not quite the numbers you claim Endure .... but look at your immigration problems now .... and you have never elected a non-white to the highest office in your land (elected)

having a history of having a female HoS (Liz) i a good thing but Maggie Thatcher is most certainly more man than most Brits

Again .... the challenge is out there ... name a predominantly white major western nation that has elected a black HoS