Suvarnabhumi PAD Protest Continues

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Can anyone bring Anupong to Court for indirectly damaging Thai's economy?

They can just as well sue Somchai for not performing his duties - at least in BP and the Nation everyone mentions that his actions over the past week were absolutely inapproprate for country's leader.

[maccastime]

Well said. Water cannon is the go here,it will knock the stuffing out of them.I was involved with the use of these power packs in Sydney,in case they were required during the APEC Summit.

The time is now.

[permanent_disorder]

The Nationreports:

that a "PAD leader advised protesters to arm themselves with bags of human excrement and urine to fight off police."

PAD Speaker Auychai Watha chairman of a northeastern teachers' group. said:

"Whoever cheated [the country], may their children become whores infected with venereal disease!"

“Cookie”, 11-years-old daughter of the dead hero talks on PAD stage:

MC: In your opinion.. your dad did for the country.. what do you have to say to the police, government?.. to catch whoever did this?… What do you want to say to the prime minister, Somchai Wongsawat?

Cookie: I want to say.. I wish him dead like my dad….

[Applausing]

“Cookie”, 11-years-old daughter of the dead hero talks on PAD stage:

If I where PAD, I will not use the grief of a child for political reason.

yep, that was my message here. isn't that sick. and you can see often on PAD stage, little innocent kids, got ‘re-educate’ using the most unpolite language, all propagada to power up the hate mob.

look above what a teacher and PAD speaker wish to others. "may their children become whores infected with venereal disease!" and they have also kids talking so on stage!!! thats is the norm, PAD standard.

can we call this child abuse? do PAD abusing children? yes.

are they child abuser?

and how misguided people must be, here on TV, support that sick PAD cult.

i would like to see some PAD supporters justify this, come on guys, explain exactly how this is cool, maybe even cooler then closing down airports and taking away the votes of the poor people

they justify it and they justify and excuse even murder. dumb and uneducated.

[kevkev1888]

Well said. Water cannon is the go here,it will knock the stuffing out of them.I was involved with the use of these power packs in Sydney,in case they were required during the APEC Summit.

The time is now.

The time is now???? when they have just said they are leaving in the morning????

The time may have been last week granted.

[henryalleman]

-Illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-Terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

Reader submissions are welcomed!

You'd obviously feel right at home in China or North Korea.

<deleted>?

idiotic in my life, unless one approves of authoritarian states where protest is not allowed.

Sometimes, during regime change, drastic actions are required which may cause inconvenience and temporary instability as the outgoing regime uses violence and underhand tactics to prolong their hold on power.

Peaceful protests are good, the very essence of democracy. North Korea, China? You are warped; read what you wrote:

It's a bit like killing a snake - until it's head is chopped off it will tend to thrash around biting at all and sundry. Even a decapitated snake is not without danger and can snap at objects nearby. This Thaksin/TRT/PPP snake is still very much in the thrashing and dangerous stage and needs careful handling to make safe.

Please don't skip you medications any longer. There are in the pocket of your yellow shirt.

You are dishonest, because you left out the first sentence of the OT; where Plachon was refering to in his comment.

"Can we get a mod to rename this thread? With the high literate rates here, Protest is inappropriate by definition."

IMHO opinion you lost all credibility.

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

[henryalleman]

Name of thread:

THAILAND CONTINUES TO BE HELD TO RANSOM BY LOSING PARTY'S DISRUPTIONS

Good! Very concise. Best to shorten...maybe?:

THAILAND CONTINUES TO BE HELD RANSOM BY LOSING PARTY.No it is held randsome by the convicted criminal Thaksin.

Regards

[Crushdepth]

Personalities and faces are not important, the PAD cannot be allowed this carry out their ethnic cleansing.

Democracy must prevail anarchy.

Sanity is a very thin veneer

[Koo82]

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

I guess by now those farmers "discover" that Khun Thaksin has ruined their lives but they still give him full supports. I must be missing something here. Why don't they (farmers) go with PAD?

[kaotang]

-Illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-Terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

Reader submissions are welcomed!

You'd obviously feel right at home in China or North Korea.

<deleted>?

idiotic in my life, unless one approves of authoritarian states where protest is not allowed.

Sometimes, during regime change, drastic actions are required which may cause inconvenience and temporary instability as the outgoing regime uses violence and underhand tactics to prolong their hold on power.

Peaceful protests are good, the very essence of democracy. North Korea, China? You are warped; read what you wrote:

It's a bit like killing a snake - until it's head is chopped off it will tend to thrash around biting at all and sundry. Even a decapitated snake is not without danger and can snap at objects nearby. This Thaksin/TRT/PPP snake is still very much in the thrashing and dangerous stage and needs careful handling to make safe.

Please don't skip you medications any longer. There are in the pocket of your yellow shirt.

You are dishonest, because you left out the first sentence of the OT; where Plachon was refering to in his comment.

"Can we get a mod to rename this thread? With the high literate rates here, Protest is inappropriate by definition."

IMHO opinion you lost all credibility.

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

PAD did not ruin the country??????? oh yeah i forgot there is no Thailand any more.

[henryalleman]

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

I guess by now those farmers "discover" that Khun Thaksin has ruined their lives but they still give him full supports. I must be missing something here. Why don't they (farmers) go with PAD?

Simply, because they believe when Khun Thaksin come back he will give them new loans again.

[henryalleman]

-Illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-Terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

Reader submissions are welcomed!

You'd obviously feel right at home in China or North Korea.

<deleted>?

idiotic in my life, unless one approves of authoritarian states where protest is not allowed.

Sometimes, during regime change, drastic actions are required which may cause inconvenience and temporary instability as the outgoing regime uses violence and underhand tactics to prolong their hold on power.

Peaceful protests are good, the very essence of democracy. North Korea, China? You are warped; read what you wrote:

It's a bit like killing a snake - until it's head is chopped off it will tend to thrash around biting at all and sundry. Even a decapitated snake is not without danger and can snap at objects nearby. This Thaksin/TRT/PPP snake is still very much in the thrashing and dangerous stage and needs careful handling to make safe.

Please don't skip you medications any longer. There are in the pocket of your yellow shirt.

You are dishonest, because you left out the first sentence of the OT; where Plachon was refering to in his comment.

"Can we get a mod to rename this thread? With the high literate rates here, Protest is inappropriate by definition."

IMHO opinion you lost all credibility.

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

PAD did not ruin the country??????? oh yeah i forgot there is no Thailand any more.

I wonder where all 62 million inhabitants are now.

[DP25]

They justify it and they justify and excuse even murder. dumb and uneducated.

You're talking about the anti PAD thugs who have been murdering and attacking peaceful protesters for months now, right? The PAD protesters have been subject to continual assaults by paid militants who have thrown grenades and fired automatic weapons at them for months.

Also, learn how to crop your quotes. Simple Internet Etiquette 101.

[Wiresok]

ethnic cleansing

You don't think you're possibly exagerating a teensy little bit here ?

Sadly that' s how things start, deny the vote that people have died to obtain.

We have seen ethnic cleansing recently.

Maybe the PAD leaders can explain to us where exactly their policy of denying the vote to the poor ends?

[Nampeung]

[Wiresok]

LOL at PAD on the radar and 'terrorism'

Some of these new folks should come to Thailand, wander out and meet some people (yes, even people in the PAD and UDD) and TALK to them (of course this may require learning Thai in many cases, but it is a small price to pay when seeking after "Truth"

What happens in Thailand is basically up to the Thais. I don't see W sending in the marines to deal with a country's internal political changes and growth.

What so far has put Thailand firmly in the minds of the people that watch these things are how peaceful things have been so far and how much restraint has been showed by the PAD in dealing with being attacked.

As a seeker of truth and justice I wouldn't dream to comment on such matters without about 10 years experience of Thailand, with passport stamps to prove it .

Exactly ! what happens in Thailand should be left to the Thai's, I say left to all the Thai's you say only the elite PAD.

Western democracies all declared the last elections process as fair and reasonable.Live with it.

Yes the BBC correspondant at suva stated the atmosphere was cordial, but that the armed PAD para-militaries were holed up in the basement?

You seems to forget that in the last elections they refused that it was monitored by the EU.

So already that moment we knew that something was dubious about how the elections was organised.

I am quite sure the Thai establishment dont want anybody independant monitoring in Thailand.

This simply because they may see things they are not supposed to!

Anyway, who needs EU monitors when they have a corrupt judiciary?

[henryalleman]

LOL at PAD on the radar and 'terrorism'

Some of these new folks should come to Thailand, wander out and meet some people (yes, even people in the PAD and UDD) and TALK to them (of course this may require learning Thai in many cases, but it is a small price to pay when seeking after "Truth"

What happens in Thailand is basically up to the Thais. I don't see W sending in the marines to deal with a country's internal political changes and growth.

What so far has put Thailand firmly in the minds of the people that watch these things are how peaceful things have been so far and how much restraint has been showed by the PAD in dealing with being attacked.

As a seeker of truth and justice I wouldn't dream to comment on such matters without about 10 years experience of Thailand, with passport stamps to prove it .

Exactly ! what happens in Thailand should be left to the Thai's, I say left to all the Thai's you say only the elite PAD.

Western democracies all declared the last elections process as fair and reasonable.Live with it.

Yes the BBC correspondant at suva stated the atmosphere was cordial, but that the armed PAD para-militaries were holed up in the basement?

You seems to forget that in the last elections they refused that it was monitored by the EU.

So already that moment we knew that something was dubious about how the elections was organised.

I am quite sure the Thai establishment dont want anybody independant monitoring in Thailand.

This simply because they may see things they are not supposed to!

Anyway, who needs EU monitors when they have a corrupt judiciary?

When you call the judiciary corrupt you should be aware who appoint the judges, you are coming very near Leese majesty. because you imply that the appointer is corrupt also

maybe you feel sour about the verdict, but this only shows that the PAD demonstrated for a just cause.

And because I still believe that you respect democratic rules, you should except a court ruling even you don't like the verdict.

If not, its only proves that all your comments about undemocratic actions of the PAD was just hypocritical nonsense

[Wiresok]

LOL at PAD on the radar and 'terrorism'

Some of these new folks should come to Thailand, wander out and meet some people (yes, even people in the PAD and UDD) and TALK to them (of course this may require learning Thai in many cases, but it is a small price to pay when seeking after "Truth"

What happens in Thailand is basically up to the Thais. I don't see W sending in the marines to deal with a country's internal political changes and growth.

What so far has put Thailand firmly in the minds of the people that watch these things are how peaceful things have been so far and how much restraint has been showed by the PAD in dealing with being attacked.

As a seeker of truth and justice I wouldn't dream to comment on such matters without about 10 years experience of Thailand, with passport stamps to prove it .

Exactly ! what happens in Thailand should be left to the Thai's, I say left to all the Thai's you say only the elite PAD.

Western democracies all declared the last elections process as fair and reasonable.Live with it.

Yes the BBC correspondant at suva stated the atmosphere was cordial, but that the armed PAD para-militaries were holed up in the basement?

You seems to forget that in the last elections they refused that it was monitored by the EU.

So already that moment we knew that something was dubious about how the elections was organised.

I am quite sure the Thai establishment dont want anybody independant monitoring in Thailand.

This simply because they may see things they are not supposed to!

Anyway, who needs EU monitors when they have a corrupt judiciary?

When you call the judiciary corrupt you should be aware who appoint the judges, you are coming very near Leese majesty. because you imply that the appointer is corrupt also

maybe you feel sour about the verdict, but this only shows that the PAD demonstrated for a just cause.

And because I still believe that you respect democratic rules, you should except a court ruling even you don't like the verdict.

If not, its only proves that all your comments about undemocratic actions of the PAD was just hypocritical nonsense

LOL, Your correlation not mine, speak for yourself.

,

Yes the same establishment who appointed the same judiciary ,continually labelled corrupt , during theTaksin years ,by anti-democracy PAD fanatics like yourself. Hypocrite.

I am sweet, Despite the illegal PAD activities Thailand remains a democratically governed country to the approval and respect of the international community.The government governs, the airports illegal occupation over, PAD ,with its faschist one person no vote policy...gone home! , democracy sweet,

Regards court rulings thats why in mature democracies there is a higher court to appeal to , then international courts of human rights.

But then..you dont want anything to do with them do you.?

By the way I think you mean "accept" not "except" you are agreeing with me!! hpocritical in the same scentence.

[Merangue]

Whilst being aware of who is the final appointer of the Judges i can still consider those in place to be corrupt without believing the appointer to be in any way corrupt.

Simple fact is that sometimes, those that are presented as the choices to the appointer may not always be squeeky clean.

hel_l take a look at the house of Lords in the UK sometime. Many of these are appointed on a political bias and approved or appointed by one person who has little or no influence on the choices put in front of her.

If you believe the Judiciary were clean as a whistle and unable to be swayed, then why do PAD supporters believe that they have altered or influenced how the Judges ruled by protesting?

[Wiresok]

Its been reported on tv that a USA news channel has described the PAD as "anti-government terrorists"

This after the BBC referred to the "armed PAD para-militaries".

The international community's response.

[robee]

Its been reported on tv that a USA news channel has described the PAD as "anti-government terrorists"

This after the BBC referred to the "armed PAD para-militaries".

The international community's response.

it just gets better every day

[erobando]

why are people still whining?

PAD is going home and the airports are opening soon.

what more does everyone want?

[Nampeung]

Eroband and the other sceptics - this is one of the most difficult times Thailand has faced since 1992. Watch and listen

[plachon]

-Illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-Terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered illegal occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

-State sponsered terrorist occupation of Suvarnabhumi continues-

Reader submissions are welcomed!

You'd obviously feel right at home in China or North Korea.

<deleted>?

idiotic in my life, unless one approves of authoritarian states where protest is not allowed.

Sometimes, during regime change, drastic actions are required which may cause inconvenience and temporary instability as the outgoing regime uses violence and underhand tactics to prolong their hold on power.

Peaceful protests are good, the very essence of democracy. North Korea, China? You are warped; read what you wrote:

It's a bit like killing a snake - until it's head is chopped off it will tend to thrash around biting at all and sundry. Even a decapitated snake is not without danger and can snap at objects nearby. This Thaksin/TRT/PPP snake is still very much in the thrashing and dangerous stage and needs careful handling to make safe.

Please don't skip you medications any longer. There are in the pocket of your yellow shirt.

You are dishonest, because you left out the first sentence of the OT; where Plachon was refering to in his comment.

"Can we get a mod to rename this thread? With the high literate rates here, Protest is inappropriate by definition."

IMHO opinion you lost all credibility.

And the PAD did not ruin the country, but Thaksin definitely ruin thousands of poor farmers by his so called 3 year cheap loans.

I'm afraid dishonesty and inability to tell right from wrong are par for the course, where Thaksinophiles are concerned, Henry.

Digitele clearly has a problem with the concept of "protest" (in whatever form apparently) and will stoop to very low and base tactics to try and score a cheap point (which naturally falls flat on its face for the more observant followers of this thread). However, no doubt Toxin-lovers will oooohhh and aaaahhh at his pathetic attempt to change the meaning of my post, as they grapple with the reality of seeing their hero slide into oblivion.

You are quite right about Thaksin being responsible for the ruination of many poor farmers who lost land and livelihood choices through his disastrous policies (e.g. rubber, lamyai and lynchee projects or various FTA's, esp with China), but I would put the numbers in the millions not thousands. The loans for phones were the icing on the cake for his family of course.

I would like to humbly suggest that given the economic damage caused by the convicted criminal Thaksin's policies, corruption while in office and desperate attempts to destabilise Thailand since leaving office, that his impounded 76 billion baht (or whatver it is), be redistributed amicably to the millions of poor farmers he claims as his support base. That way they win, the country wins and Toxin can make some small ammends for damage done (given that he doesn't have the balls to face the justice system).

[sriracha john]

Its been reported on tv that a USA news channel has described the PAD as "anti-government terrorists"

This after the BBC referred to the "armed PAD para-militaries".

The international community's response.

Do you have links to those claims?

btw, even if true, it wouldn't be the first time, nor last, the western press got something wrong.

Edited December 2, 2008 by sriracha john

[erobando]

Eroband and the other sceptics - this is one of the most difficult times Thailand has faced since 1992. Watch and listen

oh, i know these are long-term issues.

but it's the same things posted over and over again about PAD fascists, terminal damage to thailand and whatnot.

before people were annoyed bc the airport was closed, soon it won't be.

[Wiresok]

Its been reported on tv that a USA news channel has described the PAD as "anti-government terrorists"

This after the BBC referred to the "armed PAD para-militaries".

The international community's response.

Do you have links to those claims?

btw, even if true, it wouldn't be the first time, nor last, the western press got something wrong.

Both reported on tv.

Western press or thai courts.?..... Western Press everytime.

[Wiresok]

[younghusband]

Its been reported on tv that a USA news channel has described the PAD as "anti-government terrorists"

This after the BBC referred to the "armed PAD para-militaries".

The international community's response.

Do you have links to those claims?

btw, even if true, it wouldn't be the first time, nor last, the western press got something wrong.

Apologists for the PAD will always find a reason to question reports on Thailand in the Western press, some through bizarre conspiracy theories, some through ignorance and denial and some because they cannot bear to hear the truth.Often in Thailand "rules" will be invoked to stifle discussion but of course this never really works and as noted previously one could drive a bus between what is officially off limits and what is in fact being discussed and debated by Thais.The farang defenders of the PAD leadership and mob are an odd lot.Quite why they have thrown in their lot with this gruesome bunch of fascists is hard to understand.Presumably the main reason is through family associations.

As for Western reports it doesn't really matter which media outlet one looks at.Some are better than others certainly and the best Bangkok correspondents are first class with excellent networks and comprehension.The general picture coming through is much the same and interestingly many Thai journals are beginning to report the hitherto obscured background.

[madi]

Oh well

The end of that Coup and we will await the new election where the same oh same oh will start all over again.

It goes like this.

The courts, appointed very undemocratically, do everything possible to lean the election towards its choices. But, the Issan people and the suburbs of bangkok elect another party that wants to help poor people a little. The Elite say they buy votes even though its own party it backes buys the same votes and even tries to pay more.

This outrages the elite of Bangkok and soon they start attacking this newly elected group using the same bought and owned puppet court system that was put in by the last Coup government.

The baht by this time will be over 45 to the dollar which tourists like but this time will be different. The crime will be all over the place and the tourists, still angry about the airport thing, will go other places.

Another coup will come.

By this time the international democratic nations will have had it from the Thai elite. Trade sanctions just like the ones put on Burma will hit Thailand driving it into an economic disaster.

But still no new elections since every-time they have them, the poor people just North and North east of Bangkok continue to elect the same kinds of candidates.

When the baht hits 80 the crime will be unbearable here for the tourists left and all will run home. That will please the radical Elite political groups but anger businesses greatly.

3 years go by and Thailand will start to look very much the same as Myanmar. Many many of the educated and rich Thais will have run to live in other nations. Poor people all run home to the countryside and Bangkok looks like a bunch of empty buildings.

Good thing is there will be no traffic.

Air pollution will be better.

HAAA HAAAA

Can't we all just get along.

Rodney King

We won't get fooled again.

The Who

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Bangkok correspondents are first class with excellent networks and comprehension.

Yeah, right.

There are plenty of news stories from international agencies posted here - at best they translate reports in Thai media, and editorials and opinions always look like written for imbeciles.

Apologists for the PAD will always find a reason to question reports on Thailand in the Western press, some through bizarre conspiracy theories, some through ignorance and denial and some because they cannot bear to hear the truth.

Western media and the truth... Everyone apparently forgot WMD fiasco as if it had never happened.