BigBikeBKK Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) And some more pics of Harley's PIMPING session. All carbon parts rear sets and help fitting kindly provided by Tony. Congrats again on the first place finish! Wow, that pic of your ER6 in the morning sun--- NICE! Edited February 13, 2012 by BigBikeBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) To answer all the texts and emails I have received regarding the speed of my 2012 er6n, I did mange an indicated 207km/hr on the Saturday on the way back home with Harley23 but the fact is his 2010 er6n is faster than mine. My mid-range torque is better but it seems the previous er6s are faster. He has only taken out his air filter and put on a Leo Vince. Let's see when I finally get THOSE headers on and my Leo Vince. When you hit 9000 revs on my bike there is absolutely nothing after that even though the red line is at 11rpm. Keep those good times rolling. Edited February 13, 2012 by NormanW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1green0 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sorry to go back in time to the 2009 model, but I'm probably going to be buying one soon enough. these Q's are probably all answered separately in the thread, but can I get some answers for the following Qs. How much is an average service (presumably airfilter, oil filter and oil)? How much are stock tyres? How much are decent tyres (Battle-axe?)? How many KM between services? About how much is government insurance, and how much is the cheapest 1st class insurance? Without the faring, what speed feels comfortable for prolonged periods (600-700km in a day)? What sort of km per liter would you usually get when cruising around town at under 100kph? And what sort of kmpl would you get when cruising at around 160kph? And lastly, what sort of cruising speed does it start to feel uncomfortable at? Thanks, hope it isn't too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Sorry to go back in time to the 2009 model, but I'm probably going to be buying one soon enough. these Q's are probably all answered separately in the thread, but can I get some answers for the following Qs. How much is an average service (presumably airfilter, oil filter and oil)? about 1000 baht How much are stock tyres? about 7000 baht How much are decent tyres (Battle-axe?)? 12000 for Pirelli How many KM between services? cant remember 6 or 12k About how much is government insurance, and how much is the cheapest 1st class insurance? 10k for 1st class going down to 6k if no accidents after 3 years. Without the faring, what speed feels comfortable for prolonged periods (600-700km in a day)? 140 What sort of km per liter would you usually get when cruising around town at under 100kph? 21 And what sort of kmpl would you get when cruising at around 160kph? 15 And lastly, what sort of cruising speed does it start to feel uncomfortable at? 160 Thanks, hope it isn't too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1green0 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 ^ Thanks a lot. It all sounds good. The fuel economy not massively different than my CBR250, unless you nail it. Just two last Q's, it starting to feel uncomfortable at around 140kph... is there a big difference between the fared ninja650 here? I do two or three long day rides a month, and the little CBR250 feels comfortable pinned at an indicated 155-160kph, and I would hope to cruise at about this speed on the 650 for a a few hours without feeling beaten up. Putting it off for a month or two to have the extra baht for a fared version could be possible. Is there a big difference between the two in this regard? And about speed, about how off is the speedo? The lil' CBR250 is 10% out. Thanks. :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 ^ Thanks a lot. It all sounds good. The fuel economy not massively different than my CBR250, unless you nail it. Just two last Q's, it starting to feel uncomfortable at around 140kph... is there a big difference between the fared ninja650 here? I do two or three long day rides a month, and the little CBR250 feels comfortable pinned at an indicated 155-160kph, and I would hope to cruise at about this speed on the 650 for a a few hours without feeling beaten up. Putting it off for a month or two to have the extra baht for a fared version could be possible. Is there a big difference between the two in this regard? And about speed, about how off is the speedo? The lil' CBR250 is 10% out. Thanks. The speedo issue is about the same for most bikes. Possibly BMW being the most accurate I think. Sounds like the Ninja 650 is for you regarding wind buffeting. Have a think about it, the larger screen on the front does a lot to reduce it OK? Keep those good times rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1green0 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The speedo issue is about the same for most bikes. Possibly BMW being the most accurate I think. Sounds like the Ninja 650 is for you regarding wind buffeting. Have a think about it, the larger screen on the front does a lot to reduce it OK? Yup, okay, thanks. I should also have said that for 26 days in every month that I'm not mini-touring I'm commuting around the city (BKK). Hence my more interest in the naked over the fared version (plus the price difference). I guess like many people it'll be a case of which I value more.... a relative ease on everyday commuting that I do everyday, verses easier mini-touring a couple of times a month. Tough call, for me at least. Thanks for all the info. :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The speedo issue is about the same for most bikes. Possibly BMW being the most accurate I think. Sounds like the Ninja 650 is for you regarding wind buffeting. Have a think about it, the larger screen on the front does a lot to reduce it OK? Yup, okay, thanks. I should also have said that for 26 days in every month that I'm not mini-touring I'm commuting around the city (BKK). Hence my more interest in the naked over the fared version (plus the price difference). I guess like many people it'll be a case of which I value more.... a relative ease on everyday commuting that I do everyday, verses easier mini-touring a couple of times a month. Tough call, for me at least. Thanks for all the info. OK no bother. I like to go naked (if you know what I mean ) Keep those good times rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The speedo issue is about the same for most bikes. Possibly BMW being the most accurate I think. Sounds like the Ninja 650 is for you regarding wind buffeting. Have a think about it, the larger screen on the front does a lot to reduce it OK? Yup, okay, thanks. I should also have said that for 26 days in every month that I'm not mini-touring I'm commuting around the city (BKK). Hence my more interest in the naked over the fared version (plus the price difference). I guess like many people it'll be a case of which I value more.... a relative ease on everyday commuting that I do everyday, verses easier mini-touring a couple of times a month. Tough call, for me at least. Thanks for all the info. If you only do a little touring I would recommend the naked version. In a warm country it will give you some more air circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 To answer all the texts and emails I have received regarding the speed of my 2012 er6n, I did mange an indicated 207km/hr on the Saturday on the way back home with Harley23 but the fact is his 2010 er6n is faster than mine. My mid-range torque is better but it seems the previous er6s are faster. He has only taken out his air filter and put on a Leo Vince. Let's see when I finally get THOSE headers on and my Leo Vince. When you hit 9000 revs on my bike there is absolutely nothing after that even though the red line is at 11rpm. Keep those good times rolling. Pretty much the same as mine Norm and mine, as you know is the 'F' model, i managed to squeeze 208kmh out of mine a while back. I'm certain as soon as we fit our exhausts, our bikes will be capable of hitting 220kmh and gain a bit more punch between 180-200kmh. as for Red1green0, the ninja 650 is very comfortable cruising at 160, all the plastics result in a much easier ride over longer high speed trips, even at 180 there's very little buffeting from the wind. Even riding a naked bike at 140 shouldn't cause to much fatigue, maybe after a while your neck muscles will build up and you'll feel more comfortable on a naked bike at speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I've owned and toured on both the ER6n and Ninja 650 and have to say for long distance rides the fairings and tall screen of the 650 do offer good protection from wind and elements that you don't get on the ER6n. That said, the addition of a small screen to the ER6n can greatly improve your comfort. Ride On! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1green0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Cheers. Will rent an Er-6n for a day before buying. lots of different screens available, which is always good. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=kawasaki+er6n+screen Edited February 14, 2012 by red1green0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red1green0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I've owned and toured on both the ER6n and Ninja 650 and have to say for long distance rides the fairings and tall screen of the 650 do offer good protection from wind and elements that you don't get on the ER6n. And did you notice much difference in city commuting, with the Er-6n being noticeably easier than the N650? Edited February 14, 2012 by red1green0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've owned and toured on both the ER6n and Ninja 650 and have to say for long distance rides the fairings and tall screen of the 650 do offer good protection from wind and elements that you don't get on the ER6n. And did you notice much difference in city commuting, with the Er-6n being noticeably easier than the N650? Yes, while they are pretty much identical bikes, I found the ER6 easier to squeeze through traffic because you don't have much worry about scratching up the fairings on a naked bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Pics of the bike yesterday at Bira. Took them early morning while waiting for the lads to come round the bend - 555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Pics of the bike yesterday at Bira. Took them early morning while waiting for the lads to come round the bend - 555. Hi Norman bike is looking goodies (as usual)!. After riding it the other day, I found the seating position just a little too comfy (cruisy) for sporting purpose. I would change the handlebars to create a more sporty position. I think the bike would feel "faster" when riding it, especially on the track, but still comfortable enough for everyday use. Just a thought. Will most probably pass by tomorrow late afternoon to swap the tyres. See ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Pics of the bike yesterday at Bira. Took them early morning while waiting for the lads to come round the bend - 555. Hi Norman bike is looking goodies (as usual)!. After riding it the other day, I found the seating position just a little too comfy (cruisy) for sporting purpose. I would change the handlebars to create a more sporty position. I think the bike would feel "faster" when riding it, especially on the track, but still comfortable enough for everyday use. Just a thought. Will most probably pass by tomorrow late afternoon to swap the tyres. See ya! Oki doki nee bother. Don't forget your hard drive kap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thanks a lot Norman for letting me take your 2012 ER6n around the track As reported in the reviews, the 2012 has been tuned for more mid-range torque, and you can really feel it, especially in places like up the hill in 2nd to the hairpin. Also the gearbox does seem smoother than on the 2nd gen model. I like the bars on your ER6 better than the D-Tracker bars I've got on my bike at the moment. Really need to sort my bars but can't go back to clip ons as they're not allowed in the SuperNaked series... If I'm not mistaken, the redline on the 2012 is lower than on the '09-'11 model? Still, they seem about even going down the straight. Norm's 2012 ER6n is handicapped by a shagged rear tire though. Fortunately the front is newer and stuck to the track just fine. It was pretty fun sliding the back through Maxima though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Thanks a lot Norman for letting me take your 2012 ER6n around the track As reported in the reviews, the 2012 has been tuned for more mid-range torque, and you can really feel it, especially in places like up the hill in 2nd to the hairpin. Also the gearbox does seem smoother than on the 2nd gen model. I like the bars on your ER6 better than the D-Tracker bars I've got on my bike at the moment. Really need to sort my bars but can't go back to clip ons as they're not allowed in the SuperNaked series... If I'm not mistaken, the redline on the 2012 is lower than on the '09-'11 model? Still, they seem about even going down the straight. Norm's 2012 ER6n is handicapped by a shagged rear tire though. Fortunately the front is newer and stuck to the track just fine. It was pretty fun sliding the back through Maxim Hahaha yeh she runs out of puff just before 9k rpm. Will have to start saving for a rear Rosso II or Diablo. Video of the Big Swap of bikes coming today. Here is Harley and myself having a bit of Rossi (me) and Stoner (Harley) round the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 TWO BROS full system now available for the new 2012 ER6n and Ninja 650R! Let the Good Times ROLL! T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 TWO BROS full system now available for the new 2012 ER6n and Ninja 650R! Let the Good Times ROLL! T wonder how much that costs in the US and if their headers are better than Arrows'? 10% peak gain can't be a bad thing, i'd like to see a dyno print out of how much power is avaliable at other RPMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Just answered my own question Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Polished Aluminum Canister Part Number: 005-3180106V-B MSRP: $719.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Carbon Fiber Canister Part Number: 005-3180107V-B MSRP: $819.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Titanium Canister Part Number: 005-3180108V-B MSRP: $819.98 I'm still waiting for Akraprovic to release more details on their 2012 ER6 exhaust system Edited February 21, 2012 by karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just answered my own question Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Polished Aluminum Canister Part Number: 005-3180106V-B MSRP: $719.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Carbon Fiber Canister Part Number: 005-3180107V-B MSRP: $819.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Titanium Canister Part Number: 005-3180108V-B MSRP: $819.98 I'm still waiting for Akraprovic to release more details on their 2012 ER6 exhaust system All I want is HEADERS so I can get my Leo Vince on - arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just answered my own question Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Polished Aluminum Canister Part Number: 005-3180106V-B MSRP: $719.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Carbon Fiber Canister Part Number: 005-3180107V-B MSRP: $819.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Titanium Canister Part Number: 005-3180108V-B MSRP: $819.98 I'm still waiting for Akraprovic to release more details on their 2012 ER6 exhaust system All I want is HEADERS so I can get my Leo Vince on - arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I did notice in your recent pics and videos that you're still running with the standard system Hope i can make my mind up what i want soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just answered my own question Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Polished Aluminum Canister Part Number: 005-3180106V-B MSRP: $719.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Carbon Fiber Canister Part Number: 005-3180107V-B MSRP: $819.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Titanium Canister Part Number: 005-3180108V-B MSRP: $819.98 I'm still waiting for Akraprovic to release more details on their 2012 ER6 exhaust system All I want is HEADERS so I can get my Leo Vince on - arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I did notice in your recent pics and videos that you're still running with the standard system Hope i can make my mind up what i want soon HOW ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE STANDARD FART BOX???? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Posting more vids in a mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just answered my own question Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Polished Aluminum Canister Part Number: 005-3180106V-B MSRP: $719.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Carbon Fiber Canister Part Number: 005-3180107V-B MSRP: $819.98 Kawasaki Ninja 650R M-2 Black Series V.A.L.E.™ 2-1 Full Exhaust System (2012) - Titanium Canister Part Number: 005-3180108V-B MSRP: $819.98 I'm still waiting for Akraprovic to release more details on their 2012 ER6 exhaust system All I want is HEADERS so I can get my Leo Vince on - arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I did notice in your recent pics and videos that you're still running with the standard system Hope i can make my mind up what i want soon HOW ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE STANDARD FART BOX???? 555 I'm not sure about the Werkes (spelling?) i quite like the look of it, motogp style, but have never heard one other than on youtube..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Any links Karlos? Heres another link from me: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jonniethai?feature=mhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Any links Karlos? Heres another link from me: http://www.youtube.c...ai?feature=mhee Here's a link , a little more money than the Arrow cans but i haven't seen one in Thailand (not to say there isn't) i just haven't seen one I like it's large opening and i'm a sucker for beautiful Tig Welds, which the exhaust has lots of! Loving your videos, wish i could join you guys but it's going to take a while until i can afford a set of full leathers and trick the bike up with some track day goodies Edited February 22, 2012 by karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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