Opposition Files Impeachment Motion Against Abhisit

[george]

Opposition files impeachment motion against Abhisit

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Pheu Thai Party Wednesday asked the Senate to impeach Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on charges of corruption and constitutional violations.

Pheu Thai MP Piraphan Phalusuk represented his party to file an impeachment motion against Abhisit with Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej at Parliament at 10 am. The motion was sponsored by 158 Pheu Thai MPs.

The impeachment motion is part of the no-confidence plan against the prime minister. The Constitution requires the opposition to seek an impeachment against the prime minister when it decides to hold a censure debate against the premier.

The motion alleged that Abhisit did not support democracy and abused his authority and had concealed allegedly unlawful donations given to his Democrat Party.

-- The Nation 2009-03-11

[hammered]

Lets see if PTP can bring up anything substantive rather than just some nonsense and Thaksin inspired mantra about "not by democratic procedure", PAD minister, PAD, conspiracy, PAD, military service blah blah blah. Be an interesting test of whether having lost the constitutonally required vote on being the party in power the PTP actually responsibly accept their role as an opposition party or they remain just a vehicle for other things.

[h90]

Lets see if PTP can bring up anything substantive rather than just some nonsense and Thaksin inspired mantra about "not by democratic procedure", PAD minister, PAD, conspiracy, PAD, military service blah blah blah. Be an interesting test of whether having lost the constitutonally required vote on being the party in power the PTP actually responsibly accept their role as an opposition party or they remain just a vehicle for other things.

I didn't see a change of persons at PTP....I think not much hope

[monkfish]

Could be a never ending story cos they are all as corrupt as each other. Bla bla bla

[stumonster]

chalerm for PM

[monkfish]

Or just put the Millitary back in power as they are obviously the least corrupt and in charge anyhow. Blah Blah Blah

[FarangCravings]

Lets see if PTP can bring up anything substantive rather than just some nonsense and Thaksin inspired mantra about "not by democratic procedure", PAD minister, PAD, conspiracy, PAD, military service blah blah blah. Be an interesting test of whether having lost the constitutonally required vote on being the party in power the PTP actually responsibly accept their role as an opposition party or they remain just a vehicle for other things.

What you smokin man

There was nothing democratic about how he got to be head honcho

Democracy Let the people vote and he and his party will be out in the blink of an eye that's why he wont hold a General election he knows what will happen

No democracy in Thailand right now

[jamesjdaly]

That's rich!!! That the TRT/PPP/PT alliance wanting to after someone on corruption charges when hundreds of their own inbred mutants have been banned due to electoral fraud and corruption.

[chuang]

All the banana politics over and over again...

[hammered]

Lets see if PTP can bring up anything substantive rather than just some nonsense and Thaksin inspired mantra about "not by democratic procedure", PAD minister, PAD, conspiracy, PAD, military service blah blah blah. Be an interesting test of whether having lost the constitutonally required vote on being the party in power the PTP actually responsibly accept their role as an opposition party or they remain just a vehicle for other things.

What you smokin man

There was nothing democratic about how he got to be head honcho

Democracy Let the people vote and he and his party will be out in the blink of an eye that's why he wont hold a General election he knows what will happen

No democracy in Thailand right now

PMs are not directly elected in parliamentary systemss so he is as legitimate as any other Thai PM who also all went through the system. Thailand does not have a presidential system. its easier to stick to facts than smoke anything.

By the way, a month or so ago a PTP MP in a Thai news source predicted they would lose an election if it happened then.

[monkfish]

That's rich!!! That the TRT/PPP/PT alliance wanting to after someone on corruption charges when hundreds of their own inbred mutants have been banned due to electoral fraud and corruption.

The same rules should be applied to all sides, or not?

Though shalt not be corrupt either ye shall be ousted by some big guns.

Blah blah blah

[Insight]

chalerm for PM

Yep, he can bring the country forward...

Who's next?

[mc2]

tit for tat for trying to extradite thakisn

[mrukman]

Lets see if PTP can bring up anything substantive rather than just some nonsense and Thaksin inspired mantra about "not by democratic procedure", PAD minister, PAD, conspiracy, PAD, military service blah blah blah. Be an interesting test of whether having lost the constitutonally required vote on being the party in power the PTP actually responsibly accept their role as an opposition party or they remain just a vehicle for other things.

I didn't see a change of persons at PTP....I think not much hope

[mrukman]

Opposition files impeachment motion against Abhisit

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Pheu Thai Party Wednesday asked the Senate to impeach Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on charges of corruption and constitutional violations.

Pheu Thai MP Piraphan Phalusuk represented his party to file an impeachment motion against Abhisit with Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej at Parliament at 10 am. The motion was sponsored by 158 Pheu Thai MPs.

The impeachment motion is part of the no-confidence plan against the prime minister. The Constitution requires the opposition to seek an impeachment against the prime minister when it decides to hold a censure debate against the premier.

The motion alleged that Abhisit did not support democracy and abused his authority and had concealed allegedly unlawful donations given to his Democrat Party.

-- The Nation 2009-03-11

[mrukman]

Farrang Craving. In Thailand 1 man 1 vote will not happen because the well off in BKK do not recognise The People in isan. In there own words ie How can we accept the people ikn the North ( isan) to vote when the do not understand or know what there voting for. So you think Thailand is a democracy mmmm dont think so when the wealthy addopt this kind of Racism.

[ballpoint]

tit for tat for trying to extradite thakisn

So, the opposition are wasting parliament's, and the country's, time by trying to impeach the PM because he has mentioned extraditing a convicted criminal? Further proof that they care more about reinstalling a crook than they do about moving the country through these difficult economic times. Your theory is also backed up by the fact that they spent most of their time in government trying to do the same thing.

[jumnien]

This impeachment motion is ridiculous. How can you impeach someone who was appointed by the army after blocking the airport with a rent-a-mob of off-duty soldiers and bored Bangkokians? This foolish impeachment attempt only serves to give legitamacy to the scoundrel Abhisit.

[Siripon]

This censure motion is not a serious attempt to impeach Aphisit, all Peua Thai are trying to do is cast a few doubts, it's not easy for them with the 2,000 baht distribution happening soon, plus the annual transfer of civil servants.

I expect to see the police chief shunted aside soon. In addition up to 30 Peua Thai MPs may desert to Pumjai as well as the rest of Puae Paendin and Sanoh's group.

Hard times for Peua Thai who still can't find a proper leader. And the tamed streetdog says he'll be home by the end of the year!! LOL

[neverdie]

So I guess we are nearing the time to roll out the yellow & red shirts again, few handclappers & its off to old swampy for another sleepout?

Just what Thailand needs.

[TAWP]

Atleast they supply an never-ending series of entertainment... it rarely gets boring reading the news.

[ballpoint]

This impeachment motion is ridiculous. How can you impeach someone who was appointed by the army after blocking the airport with a rent-a-mob of off-duty soldiers and bored Bangkokians? This foolish impeachment attempt only serves to give legitamacy to the scoundrel Abhisit.

Therefore, by your own argument, the PTP accepts Abhisit is the legal PM of the country, or they wouldn't be able to impeach him? As for the rest of your same old argument (army appointed, puppet, PAD, airport blah blah blah), the facts have been posted by many people in many threads, but I'll explain it one more time for anyone not paying attention: The last PPP government was toppled by a court order, banning many of its MP's from politics. The airport sit in coincided with this, but was not the cause of the government's downfall. As is the legal procedure in a parliamentary democracy, the democratically elected leader of the second largest democratically elected party was asked to form a government. He was able to do so, and therefore is the legal, democratically elected, Thai PM. If the PTP had have been able to come up with a majority, then they could have formed the government, which probably would have upset the PAD, but we're getting into speculation here. If parliament had have remained fractured, with no coalition able to be formed, then, and only then, would it have been dissolved and elections held.

[jumnien]

Oh, that's right, the military isn't involved in politics!

[ballpoint]

Oh, that's right, the military isn't involved in politics!

This is Thailand, the military have always, and unfortunately, probably always will be, involved in politics. All the people arguing for the purity of Thaksins government are deluding themselves if they think he lasted as long as he did without the support of the military. We all know what happened when he lost that support. At the moment, Abhisit has their support and, as such, has as much right to be the PM as Thaksin did.

[QED]

This impeachment motion is ridiculous. How can you impeach someone who was appointed by the army after blocking the airport with a rent-a-mob of off-duty soldiers and bored Bangkokians? This foolish impeachment attempt only serves to give legitamacy to the scoundrel Abhisit.

Therefore, by your own argument, the PTP accepts Abhisit is the legal PM of the country, or they wouldn't be able to impeach him? As for the rest of your same old argument (army appointed, puppet, PAD, airport blah blah blah), the facts have been posted by many people in many threads, but I'll explain it one more time for anyone not paying attention: The last PPP government was toppled by a court order, banning many of its MP's from politics. The airport sit in coincided with this, but was not the cause of the government's downfall. As is the legal procedure in a parliamentary democracy, the democratically elected leader of the second largest democratically elected party was asked to form a government. He was able to do so, and therefore is the legal, democratically elected, Thai PM. If the PTP had have been able to come up with a majority, then they could have formed the government, which probably would have upset the PAD, but we're getting into speculation here. If parliament had have remained fractured, with no coalition able to be formed, then, and only then, would it have been dissolved and elections held.

Can't be arsed to get into another of these rows, but you did give me a good laugh - thanks.

Are you for real??

[h90]

Oh, that's right, the military isn't involved in politics!

This is Thailand, the military have always, and unfortunately, probably always will be, involved in politics. All the people arguing for the purity of Thaksins government are deluding themselves if they think he lasted as long as he did without the support of the military. We all know what happened when he lost that support. At the moment, Abhisit has their support and, as such, has as much right to be the PM as Thaksin did.

The coup was to avoid a bloodshed and than the military refused to kill peaceful demonstrators and recommended instead that the government should resign if they can't handle it.

I think that was very fortune and saved a lot peoples life and for the more greedy farangs: How many tourists would come to Thailand if the Army would have shot with guns into the PAD (and this is seen worldwide together with barking Samak on TV).

Thailand would be in a civil war by now with embargos from the rest of the world....

So the military did the only right thing.

[Oberkommando]

The coup was to avoid a bloodshed and than the military refused to kill peaceful demonstrators

So those rioters I saw attacking Police, fighting running battles, driving vehicles into Police with the intent to kill and injure, and taking away and shooting suspected infiltrators were all part of my imagination then?

That's good to know.

Thailand would be in a civil war by now with embargos from the rest of the world....

Just postponing the inevitable.

So the military did the only right thing.

The military should be answerable to the Government and the electorate. "Doing the right thing" shouldn't be part of the equation. Of course in Thailand the military is only answerable to a single figure, and does as they please as a separate entity with no culpability or responsibility. Their shady and dubious past, even in dealing with their own citizens speaks volumes.

You'd have to be a complete dupe or just a plain old idiot to believe, given their sordid history, that the Thai military ever does what is best for the Thai people.

[ballpoint]

This impeachment motion is ridiculous. How can you impeach someone who was appointed by the army after blocking the airport with a rent-a-mob of off-duty soldiers and bored Bangkokians? This foolish impeachment attempt only serves to give legitamacy to the scoundrel Abhisit.

Therefore, by your own argument, the PTP accepts Abhisit is the legal PM of the country, or they wouldn't be able to impeach him? As for the rest of your same old argument (army appointed, puppet, PAD, airport blah blah blah), the facts have been posted by many people in many threads, but I'll explain it one more time for anyone not paying attention: The last PPP government was toppled by a court order, banning many of its MP's from politics. The airport sit in coincided with this, but was not the cause of the government's downfall. As is the legal procedure in a parliamentary democracy, the democratically elected leader of the second largest democratically elected party was asked to form a government. He was able to do so, and therefore is the legal, democratically elected, Thai PM. If the PTP had have been able to come up with a majority, then they could have formed the government, which probably would have upset the PAD, but we're getting into speculation here. If parliament had have remained fractured, with no coalition able to be formed, then, and only then, would it have been dissolved and elections held.

Can't be arsed to get into another of these rows, but you did give me a good laugh - thanks.

Are you for real??

No, I'm not real, I was churned out in a factory in China that also produces fake Rolexes and LV handbags. The real Ballpoint is a Swiss made mechanism, but these days, who can tell the difference?

Laugh all you like, it doesn't change the facts. The PPP government wasn't budging and neither were the PAD. The only reason the government was changed, and the PAD left the airport, was the court ruling, which was taking place irregardless of the protests. There was a lot of talk at the time that the reason the police and army refused to act on the protestors was because they knew, as did any one else with a brain, that the PPP government would be declared illegal by the courts. If the court hadn't have ruled, or had come up with a different ruling then no doubt violence would have broken out, and that would have done far more damage to the country's reputation. But again, that's just speculation. Did the protest influence the ruling? Maybe, maybe not, but the ruling was the reason for the governments downfall.

[mc2]

Oh, that's right, the military isn't involved in politics!

This is Thailand, the military have always, and unfortunately, probably always will be, involved in politics. All the people arguing for the purity of Thaksins government are deluding themselves if they think he lasted as long as he did without the support of the military. We all know what happened when he lost that support. At the moment, Abhisit has their support and, as such, has as much right to be the PM as Thaksin did.

The coup was to avoid a bloodshed and than the military refused to kill peaceful demonstrators and recommended instead that the government should resign if they can't handle it.

I think that was very fortune and saved a lot peoples life and for the more greedy farangs: How many tourists would come to Thailand if the Army would have shot with guns into the PAD (and this is seen worldwide together with barking Samak on TV).

Thailand would be in a civil war by now with embargos from the rest of the world....

So the military did the only right thing.

There was another option on the table, that is to neutrelize the zombie leaders (sondhi and chamlong), without their charasmatic and influencial zombie masters the zombies would have suffered the same fate as the red shirts now.

Instead they opened up a pandoras box of problems .

[Patriciachas]

Opposition files impeachment motion against Abhisit

BANGKOK: -- The opposition Pheu Thai Party Wednesday asked the Senate to impeach Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on charges of corruption and constitutional violations.

Pheu Thai MP Piraphan Phalusuk represented his party to file an impeachment motion against Abhisit with Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej at Parliament at 10 am. The motion was sponsored by 158 Pheu Thai MPs.

The impeachment motion is part of the no-confidence plan against the prime minister. The Constitution requires the opposition to seek an impeachment against the prime minister when it decides to hold a censure debate against the premier.

The motion alleged that Abhisit did not support democracy and abused his authority and had concealed allegedly unlawful donations given to his Democrat Party.

-- The Nation 2009-03-11

They are all like school children ,when are thy all going to grow up and try to save thailand