LawnGnome Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Anybody know if those police ever made it to Government House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Anybody know if those police ever made it to Government House? since 4 am it started might be wrong news.....something started but I don't know what Edited April 12, 2009 by h90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff_mick Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Anybody know if those police ever made it to Government House? since 4 am it started might be wrong news.....something started but I don't know what While interviewing a soldier live on the news and asked why the military had taken control... He said it was because the police had failed to do their duty and control it. By the way did anyone see the Thaksin clone Veera walking to a red highway patrol pick up of the police,s so called securtiy forces and climb inside and escorted to another destination ?????? It was on the news channel ( 23 on cable here ) <deleted> Add this to the apparent standing by and letting the mod run havoc and smash not only the PM,s car up, but also the interior ministers as well. Casualties include the PM slightly injured, the interior minister head and rib injuries and one of the drivers several more serious ones. Anarchy it seems has been alllowed to happen while the police look on and do nothing. As for Thaksin, his latest speech telling all to fight for theirs and their childrens futures, along with the return of democracy, this sums up in total what his true thoughts are for the protestors and the beloved country. " I,m coming straight home if the military start to lead you all my fellow citizens." It happened Thaksin...Where are you as it was awhile ago now. There,s him and his family ( children ?? ) outside the country in a safe haven telling all the no brainers to get stuck in for their futures and their kids and them following up on his instructions.... Again <deleted>.... Ect.Ect.Ect. Edited April 13, 2009 by sheff_mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeungKen Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Please, What does Ect, Ect, Ect mean ? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyphuketLife Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 1,000 police armed with teargas head to Government HouseBANGKOK: -- About 1,000 policemen armed with teargases headed to the Government House Sunday afternoon apparently to make preparations for cracking down protesters. -- The Nation 2009-04-12 1000 Police who refuse to act... big deal. Why "refuse"??? WHY REFUSE ?????? ......you obviously have not been following properly.... Most police would be Red shirts....the police loved Thaksin.. and worryingly today we also saw army wearing red scarves ????.....if the army is split, we could be in for big troubles Then why did they not stop the YELLOW shirts? I don't think they are picking either side, I just think it comes down to lack of training and or ability to stop a crowd... I honestly don't believe the police have chosen sides and they did not act for the YELLOWS and they are not acting for the REDS.... They just standby and watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatter Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Please,What does Ect, Ect, Ect mean ? Ken Ect ...should be " etc. " Etcetera. etc, etc, etc, means, "and so on and so on and so on". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House. Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawnGnome Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House.Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? It should be noted that the police processed many red shirt supporters after the Din Daeng reclaimation. Many of them claimed they were coerced into remaining at the protest site, by more ardent supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 ^ Me, and a good deal of the forum membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teletiger Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Friends of ours, just outside Bangkok, were offered (this morning) 300 baht to join the blue shirts. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House.Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? It should be noted that the police processed many red shirt supporters after the Din Daeng reclaimation. Many of them claimed they were coerced into remaining at the protest site, by more ardent supporters. You post the same statement, almost words for words, in other threads. To my ears it sounds like propaganda, especially for someone who has joined today and post at the speed of a machine gun. The PAD propaganda machine is still very well alive ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House.Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? It was always absurd to believe that the reds or for that matter the yellows (when that mob was active) were motivated by the payment of a few hundred baht.After the events of the last few days it would take a very thick face to take this position.Yet some are still making this claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR1 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House.Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? this is my GF's argument as well. just don't know what is fact and what is bullshit anymore. i certainly wouldn't stand in the line of fire for any amount of money. however, people do get carried away once the shit hits the fan, wrapped up in the moment so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teletiger Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Vote and supporter buying is a way of life in Thailand. The vote buying goes all the way down to obadour and Pu Yai level. Thais are very open about it and don't seem to see any shame in it. I would suspect "front-liners" are being paid more than the usual going rate. That there are unpaid supporters there, who believe in their cause, I have no doubts. My own opinion would be that more are paid than not. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Via online tv, I heard sound same as gun shot. Edited April 13, 2009 by Koo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 If the reds were paid to protest, they would all run away from Government House.Anyone still believe that they are paid a few hundred Baht a day to protest? madame Koo, my friends have been offered 1000Baht per day. This may be small to you but they thought about it, then they realized they could get shot for this sum and decided to go home for songkran. They are now safely in the village letting me know their opinions and are releived they did not accept the generous offer of the UDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 No tear gas yet. I only can hear the voice from the main stage via http://www.thaipeoplevoice.org/ DStation is cut. Nuttawut asked the hard core reds not to face soldiers but to come back and sit near the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawnGnome Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 No tear gas yet. I only can hear the voice from the main stage via http://www.thaipeoplevoice.org/DStation is cut. Nuttawut asked the hard core reds not to face soldiers but to come back and sit near the stage. First smart thing I've heard from a UDD leader in quite a while. The police and army have seemed to restore order quite quickly in many areas. They just showed then pulling reds out of the buses they were using as battering rams, and handcuffing them. Didn't seem overly rough, since almost everything is being broadcast as it happens. Glad to see that the armed forces are capable of putting a stop to this nonsense, when they have a mind too. The fact that they couldn't do this for the ASEAN Summit is still disconcerting however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 So why did they let the yellows block Government House more than 3 months and 2 airports for a week? Because the yellows helped bringing down a democratically elected government? But yellows did not win. PPP was dissolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 So why did they let the yellows block Government House more than 3 months and 2 airports for a week?Because the yellows helped bringing down a democratically elected government? But yellows did not win. PPP was dissolved. Because the police handled that protest...........same same pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawndoc Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Then why did they not stop the YELLOW shirts? I don't think they are picking either side, I just think it comes down to lack of training and or ability to stop a crowd... I honestly don't believe the police have chosen sides and they did not act for the YELLOWS and they are not acting for the REDS.... They just standby and watch... They did try. Or at least they tried harder than they did with the reds. Remember all the injuries from the cheap Chinese tear gas used by the police? That said, its very clear than when push comes to shove, the police would rather go make some tea money somewhere else than deal with mobs, regardless of what color shirts the mob is wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahookie Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Some good info here ... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Then why did they not stop the YELLOW shirts? I don't think they are picking either side, I just think it comes down to lack of training and or ability to stop a crowd... I honestly don't believe the police have chosen sides and they did not act for the YELLOWS and they are not acting for the REDS.... They just standby and watch... They did try. Or at least they tried harder than they did with the reds. Remember all the injuries from the cheap Chinese tear gas used by the police? That said, its very clear than when push comes to shove, the police would rather go make some tea money somewhere else than deal with mobs, regardless of what color shirts the mob is wearing. The police aren't competent enough to do their job, so after last time against the PAD when they got hauled over the coals for the mess they created, I believe they don't have any stomach whatsoever for the job. They know how to randomly batter a group, but the day and age of camera phones shows every error. This isn't the 1970's any more. I really have to say that the army did a very good job yesterday, and if as it seems there weren't any fatalities through their actions, they performed their task very well. Although why they went on TV last night to explain that they were using blanks astounded me considering the job isn't finished yet. A lot of loudspeakers telling the crowd a GH to go home before the inevitable onslaught will probably convince a lot to go home. That assumes protesters will be allowed to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 They did try. Or at least they tried harder than they did with the reds. Remember all the injuries from the cheap Chinese tear gas used by the police? Did soldiers use expensive American tear gas yesterday morning at Din Daeng? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Leaders of red shirted protesters announced on rally stage at Government House on Tuesday at 10.30am that they all are ready to surrender to face charges. From The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The police aren't competent enough to do their job, so after last time against the PAD when they got hauled over the coals for the mess they created, I believe they don't have any stomach whatsoever for the job. The truth is police were instructed not to shoot or do anything to PAD. This hurt them a lot during months PAD protested. A policeman came to the red stage and said they were treated like dogs during yellow protests. Yellows, Democrat Party, Army top people, Police top people, media and some in the dark are supporting each other. This explains why the yellows can block GH and airports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 They did try. Or at least they tried harder than they did with the reds. Remember all the injuries from the cheap Chinese tear gas used by the police? Did soldiers use expensive American tear gas yesterday morning at Din Daeng? It is reported! and there are no horror news from the hospitals so it seems to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The police aren't competent enough to do their job, so after last time against the PAD when they got hauled over the coals for the mess they created, I believe they don't have any stomach whatsoever for the job. The truth is police were instructed not to shoot or do anything to PAD. This hurt them a lot during months PAD protested. A policeman came to the red stage and said they were treated like dogs during yellow protests. Yellows, Democrat Party, Army top people, Police top people, media and some in the dark are supporting each other. This explains why the yellows can block GH and airports. Koo some are saying that Abhisit yesterday had been abandoned by some of the heads of the police and military and some of his own party who all wanted to do nothing and let him lose. However, he turned the tables on them. There is a lot more to this story and there ar many factions on each side. It is quite likely that the uprising was connected to triggering an event that would lead to a return of Thaksin however things didnt go as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff_mick Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Please,What does Ect, Ect, Ect mean ? Ken Ect ...should be " etc. " Etcetera. etc, etc, etc, means, "and so on and so on and so on". Thanks Splatter and apologies for using a large " E " I purposely used a capital E for enforcing purposes and to exaggerate many other instances. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 They did try. Or at least they tried harder than they did with the reds. Remember all the injuries from the cheap Chinese tear gas used by the police? Did soldiers use expensive American tear gas yesterday morning at Din Daeng? Well, No limbs blown off, No dead girls No massive discussions about DOCUMENTED excessive force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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