How To Get Home Status University Fees Uk

[paperplates]

Hi,

Has anyone out there with Thai/British children, born in Thailand, never lived in the UK managed to get home status university fees for their children in UK universities? If so, how?

Many thanks

[PattayaParent]

Your child has to have lived in UK for 3 years before applying to University (although I think this mught be different for Wales)

And the reason for return to UK MUST NOT be for education purposes.

I did have some government websites with the info but can't find them at the moment. Hope these are helpful.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_shee...ort_england.php

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_shee...pport_wales.php

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/

[PattayaParent]

I think this link is what you need.

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_shee...y_residence.php

[paperplates]

Thanks PattayaParent. I have actually read all the 'official' stuff already. However, most families I know have managed to get around overseas fees, despite not being resident in the country. The difference between them and me is their children were born in the UK and mine weren't. I just wondered if any families with Thai born (and one Thai parent) had managed to get around the official stipulation of 3 year residency.

[PattayaParent]

I'll be in the same situation as you as my child was born outside UK so if you get any positive answers I'd appreciate the info.

As a matter of interest for a mate of mine how did the families with kids born in UK get around the 3 year prior residence requirements?

[paperplates]

I'll be in the same situation as you as my child was born outside UK so if you get any positive answers I'd appreciate the info.

As a matter of interest for a mate of mine how did the families with kids born in UK get around the 3 year prior residence requirements?

They had to basically prove that their main country of residence is the UK, and that they are temporary residents in Thailand, depsite having lived here for the last 7 years. They have two year contracts here in Thailand which can be classed as temporary and they showed evidence of having been back to the UK on a regular basis (every year). Someone else told me that they are making voluntary NI contributions so that their kids will get home status, but there's nothing in the offical information that says that's a condition. I think having property in your name and council tax bills is also a way round it.

I think if your kids are Thai/British and have never lived in the UK then there's no way round it except going to live in the UK 3 years prior to admission. Or sending them to work for three years before they go! I don't know if you've looked into the overseas rates - they are astronomical! Like up to 15,000 pounds a year just for tution fees. I've got two kids who are 11 months apart in age so it'd be 30 grand a year.

Another option is a UK university overseas. Like, for example, the University of Nottingham in Malaysia. It's about 5,000 a year but has quite a limited number of degrees on offer.

Edited May 7, 2009 by paperplates

[PattayaParent]

Thanks for the info PP.

It doesn't sound like my mate will be in a good position as he made a permanent move here although he does still have a house back in UK. At the moment he's talking about going back for his lad to do A levels and take a 'gap year' before starting uni but the lad is keen to study.

In my case the fees are not unaffordable at the moment, but who knows in another 13 year when my child will be uni age unless she wants to be a doctor or architect with a 7 year course!

[cmsally]

From what I have heard it is very difficult to get around. I think 2 of the requirements are having property that is not rented out in UK therefore paying council tax bills and also very frequent trips back to UK. There might be other requirements on top of those.

From what I have heard from other nationalities they don't have the same dilemma, but maybe they have never looked into it. I have even heard of 100% Brit families who have lived abroad (outside EU) having problems with this.

[roamer]

I'll be in the same situation as you as my child was born outside UK so if you get any positive answers I'd appreciate the info.

As a matter of interest for a mate of mine how did the families with kids born in UK get around the 3 year prior residence requirements?

They had to basically prove that their main country of residence is the UK, and that they are temporary residents in Thailand, depsite having lived here for the last 7 years. They have two year contracts here in Thailand which can be classed as temporary and they showed evidence of having been back to the UK on a regular basis (every year). Someone else told me that they are making voluntary NI contributions so that their kids will get home status, but there's nothing in the offical information that says that's a condition. I think having property in your name and council tax bills is also a way round it.

I think if your kids are Thai/British and have never lived in the UK then there's no way round it except going to live in the UK 3 years prior to admission. Or sending them to work for three years before they go! I don't know if you've looked into the overseas rates - they are astronomical! Like up to 15,000 pounds a year just for tution fees. I've got two kids who are 11 months apart in age so it'd be 30 grand a year.

Another option is a UK university overseas. Like, for example, the University of Nottingham in Malaysia. It's about 5,000 a year but has quite a limited number of degrees on offer.

Thanks for the info PP.

It doesn't sound like my mate will be in a good position as he made a permanent move here although he does still have a house back in UK. At the moment he's talking about going back for his lad to do A levels and take a 'gap year' before starting uni but the lad is keen to study.

In my case the fees are not unaffordable at the moment, but who knows in another 13 year when my child will be uni age unless she wants to be a doctor or architect with a 7 year course!

My somewhat quick interpretation of some of the case law is that is the importance of the father returning here with the intention to settle that is the crucial factor, if he can show that is the case then provided they are here for the 3 years period there should not be a problem. The problem arises when it would seem by the circumstances that the child has come here for educational purposes, they would not then be classed as a home student. As in one of the cases outlined the child had arrived in UK and attended a boarding school while parents remained overseas, his purpose for entering the UK were therefore to study and his application was refused. So its doable but has to be undertaken with great care.