The Bread Baker's Apprentice

[Daren]

The title pretty much explains everything. I'd like to get my hands on a copy of BBA and it's not availale through B2S or other bookstores in my town. I found Crust and Crumb on one Thai online bookseller but that's not the one I want. Any tips appreciated.

[cathyy]

There's always Amazon.

Also, this place will order English books for you. Kinokuniya books.

[Daren]

Thanks for your reply, cathyy.

Do you have any idea who much shipping and Thai tax would be on a book like that? Also, I figured that because it wasn't on Kinokuniya's website, I would be out-of-luck. Have you ordered something not on their website?

Edit:

Just found this on Kino's site:

Q: Can I order a title that BWT does not carry at the moment?

Yes, we can try to source for the title for you. Please write to bangkok@kinokuniya.com, sukhumvit@kinokuniya.com, siamparagon@kinokuniya.com with the details of the title that you are looking for. For Japanese publications, you may wish to order directly from Kinokuniya Japan.

In this instance, please proceed to Kinokuniya BookWeb (Japan) at http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/ (Japanese interface only).

[JR Texas]

Thanks for your reply, cathyy.

Do you have any idea who much shipping and Thai tax would be on a book like that? Also, I figured that because it wasn't on Kinokuniya's website, I would be out-of-luck. Have you ordered something not on their website?

Edit:

Just found this on Kino's site:

Q: Can I order a title that BWT does not carry at the moment?

Yes, we can try to source for the title for you. Please write to bangkok@kinokuniya.com, sukhumvit@kinokuniya.com, siamparagon@kinokuniya.com with the details of the title that you are looking for. For Japanese publications, you may wish to order directly from Kinokuniya Japan.

In this instance, please proceed to Kinokuniya BookWeb (Japan) at http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/ (Japanese interface only).

Maybe a silly question BUT: How difficult is it to make bread from scratch not using a "bread maker's apprentice?" I would like to replicate the bread in Subway (e.g., Italian bread). Yes, I can Google it..........but I want to hear from a person who actually makes bread.

[Daren]

Making good bread isn't difficult, IMHO. And one certainly doesn't need the tome that is BBA. Your results may not be exactly what you were aiming for at first but with a little persistence, it can be done!

[callum06]

Making good bread isn't difficult, IMHO. And one certainly doesn't need the tome that is BBA. Your results may not be exactly what you were aiming for at first but with a little persistence, it can be done!

Have you tried a torrent?? mininova are good for thier books then print it off at work

[Daren]

Yeah I checked already... no luck. I did find one popular bread book but not the illustrious BBA!

[polecat]

A rocket scientist writes:

To get the shipping costs for Amazon, just place the order and go through the stages. Then, when you see the shipping prices, cancel if it's too much.

[cathyy]

Maybe a silly question BUT: How difficult is it to make bread from scratch not using a "bread maker's apprentice?" I would like to replicate the bread in Subway (e.g., Italian bread). Yes, I can Google it..........but I want to hear from a person who actually makes bread.

You will need to use a dough conditioner to get the bread as light as Subway, but it can be very easily done. Lacking dough conditioner, you can substitute a half teaspoon of ascorbic acid powder if you can find it. A tablespoon of gluten will probably be needed, too, unless you can find genuine bread flour which has gluten and dough conditioner already added.

I made hamburger and hot dog buns for the first time a couple weeks ago. Letting the bread rise twice before shaping and the final rise is very important in getting the bread light enough. Mine weren't as light as Subway bread, because I didn't use gluten or dough conditioner. but they were still yummy, and better than the local sweet stuff.

[antony77]

I can make good white bread and dough with my breadmaker but the wholewheat bread is always very heavy and not like in the shops. I have tried using 1/3 white flour but with no better results. Any ideas please

[cathyy]

I can make good white bread and dough with my breadmaker but the wholewheat bread is always very heavy and not like in the shops. I have tried using 1/3 white flour but with no better results. Any ideas please

I have noticed that the whole wheat flour I get here is not as finely ground as the whole wheat flour I could get in the US. That makes a big difference. But try this famous recipe from the Urban Homemaker website. You can also try BreadBeckers.

If all else fails you can try a recipe using half white and half whole wheat flour. I have had good success with that here using local flours and some added gluten. I did that rather than trying to track down dough conditioner.