"I used to do all that before I met you."

"I just don't find it attractive"

"Not into paying for it"

"I've just grown out of it"

"Its just friction, who cares"

"Sure, they look nice, but as thick as two short planks"

"I just like a few beers when I go out with my mates"

"Just looking is okay - as long as I don't touch"

One of the key components to a former job I did was to get my married Bosses laid when on business trips. 99 out of 100 are up for it.

So, when I married, I bucked the trend - lemme tell you its really hard, (but being unemployed helps). Also, I know i'd get found out in doublequick time, as i'm not good at concealment

The excuses and self-denial that I heard from my colleagues are outstanding. One said 'its not infidelity if I use a condom' .

Anyway, the purpose of this topic is to hear the lines you're given, lets see if we think you're being spindoctored.......

Moog.

Oh, I bet this topic's going to go far....

"Steven"

I'm revealing the secrets of the Temple here Steven !

Here's a husbandly trick - especially if he can't stay out late....

Its..... the soapland massage parlours that are open during his lunch hour. A married lawyer from Leeds, UK that I know used to go to one every day.

So how do you know ?

Easy. Smell him.

The soap suds they use are quite fraqrant and the scent lingers. If he comes home smelling like Fairy Liquid - gotcha !

This is, of course, assuming that all husbands are out to get laid by any woman they can, that all men think with their dicks and are so completely shallow that they are unable to commit to a monogamous relationship. Not a very nice thing to say about your own kind, is it?

Not all - 99 out of 100.

The rebuttal from an confronted husband goes like this:-

"I'm sorry" (looks grumpy), "Are you saying what I THINK you're saying? Just listen a second. Do you think all husbands are out to get laid by any woman they can, that all men think with their dicks and are so completely shallow that they are unable to commit to a monogamous relationship." (Looks very grumpy indeed now) " Not a very nice thing to say about your husband, is it"

Crisis defused !

Well said.

I guess I should feel relieved that none of those "lines" are familiar then?

Two of my favourites are..." I was waiting for our son and his friend and I fell asleep in the car"" Now, this is after our son and his 22 year old friend had come back home and gone to bed. The other one was "I got lost so I stopped in and had a massage and it felt so good I had two of them"

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Mrs Merlin? ? ?

Did I do something I forgot about in Malaysia about 4 years ago?

...and what is my [Thai] wife going to say?

You could also ask the same question but replace husband for wife???

When you marry you take a leap of faith in the person you marry, if you have no faith in them then you had no reason to get married in the first place. People grow apart but thats no reason to stay in a miserable partnership or start screwing around & use that as an excuse. I've always told my husband that if he wants to screw around then he just let me know & I'll start the divorce procedure. Lifes too short to put up with that kind of crap & thats what a lot of guys don't like in independant women these days but my feeling is tough titty. Gone are the days when it was a stigma for a women to be divorced & more & more women have the same zero tolerance approach as I do & good luck to them. If a person wants to lie & cheat their partner then they should just be single & then the only person they are damaging is themselves. Fortunately my husband doesnt have that deceptive streak & I have never heard a line from him. Maybe thats why we are married & i'm not dating one of the losers I had before him. When you meet a decent one it opens your eyes to the sad ######s you had before & makes you appricate what you have now

Why don't you just divorce or become a lesbian or move to Afganistan or someplace like that? As you already found out you can't win. Seems to me you're trying everything you can to get a divorce.

I certainly would have kicked you out years ago if you were my wife.

Reminds me why I never married a farang woman!

Why don't you just divorce or become a lesbian or move to Afganistan or someplace like that? As you already found out you can't win. Seems to me you're trying everything you can to get a divorce.

I certainly would have kicked you out years ago if you were my wife.

Reminds me why I never married a farang woman!

Hey! Who is that directed at????

Probably at Boo. Just another knee-jerk reaction from someone who reads what they want rather than what is posted.

And I really hope this doesn't turn into another bigoted diatribe from some farang man who has decided that because he had a bad experience with a farang woman they are all bad. If that is your opinion then I suggest you go post somewhere else

Boo, I agree one hundred percent. Who needs to be married to someone who will lie and cheat? What kind of relationship is it if there is no honesty or respect?

Moog of course, isn't that obvious?

Moog of course, isn't that obvious?

Moog is female? Coulda fooled me.

I am male, and I feel a bit shy about 'invading' the ladies forum, so lets keep this a friendly topic please !

The premis of the topic stems from the fact that I've seen married guys behave in such Machiavellian ways - and i've been in Asia 10 years, 7 of which I too was a Playboy (albeit unmarried) - and their Partner in Crime.

To wit:-

-Secret duplicate families

-Money (in large sums) being routed to girls, simultaneously telling wife to sell her jewellery)

-Promises to divorce the wife. (though this is often a lie too).

...let alone the straight clandestine bonking !

Traitor!

Moog, I am with you on this one.

Seems like a good concept, open a forum where woman can perhaps develop their own comfort zone and then invade it with sexist female bashing comments. Wonder how long they will remain comfortable.

Boo, perhaps a grain of salt is in order but then again it is obvious that your IQ is not the same as your shoe size, doubt the same can be said of madsere

Au contraire - I am not bashing the women at all.

The reason i'm shy is only because this is a Taboo topic.

'Turning a blind eye' is what my colleagues wife's have subliminally had to do for ages

Is it better to know the truth if the truth hurts? .....Thats a conundrum.

Ironically, the guys who i've seen behave like this are never slow to reach judgment about others - on other issues.

Crossing the Rubicon would be simply publishing a list of their names. In many ways - (Madsere, Rav, what do you think ?) that would be breaking the Geneva Convention though.

Au contraire - I am not bashing the women at all.

The reason i'm shy is only because this is a Taboo topic.

'Turning a blind eye' is what my colleagues wife's have subliminally had to do for ages

Is it better to know the truth if the truth hurts? .....Thats a conundrum.

Ironically, the guys who i've seen behave like this are never slow to reach judgment about others - on other issues.

Crossing the Rubicon would be simply publishing a list of their names. In many ways - (Madsere, Rav, what do you think ?) that would be breaking the Geneva Convention though.

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Moog,

Sorry if my post was not clear, sure seemed that way to me when regurgitated from my brain

The bashing I was referring to was posted by other 'upper brain-dead, testostrone powered lower-brain' neanderthals

I prefer the TNA method of communicating, body slam the mother if they deserve it and am sure you would have felt that if I had intended to criticise you. No malace intended your direction. As I said in my previous post "I am with you".

Time to vacate and allow the ladies to have their fun without my impediments

One of the key components to a former job I did was to get my married Bosses laid when on business trips. 99 out of 100 are up for it.

I think your former job may have clouded your vision. Had you been a librarian at a monestary you would probably have an equally erroneous view of men, though in the other direction.

I don't screw around, and neither do all of the next 99 men I know. Some are too weak to make a commitment, but many have the fortitude to keep their vows. You just hang around the wrong people if your views are this slanted.

For some men, our word is more important than our dicks.

cv

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Mrs Merlin? ? ?

Did I do something I forgot about in Malaysia about 4 years ago?

...and what is my [Thai] wife going to say?

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I'm still laughing... That was cute.. thanx

You could also ask the same question but replace husband for wife???

When you marry you take a leap of faith in the person you marry, if you have no faith in them then you had no reason to get married in the first place. People grow apart but thats no reason to stay in a miserable partnership or start screwing around & use that as an excuse. I've always told my husband  that if he wants to screw around then he just let me know & I'll start the divorce procedure. Lifes too short to put up with that kind of crap & thats what a lot of guys don't like in independant women these days but my feeling is tough titty. Gone are the days when it was a stigma for a women to be divorced & more & more women have the same zero tolerance approach as I do & good luck to them. If a person wants to lie & cheat their partner then they should just be single & then the only person they are damaging is themselves. Fortunately my husband doesnt have that deceptive streak & I have never heard a line from him. Maybe thats why we are married & i'm not dating one of the losers I had before him. When you meet a decent one it opens your eyes to the sad ######s you had before & makes you appricate what you have now

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How wonderful, unfortunately not all marriages even what a couple believe are sound ones are conducive to lthe blatant prostitution you see everywhere in Tailand..I've 8 marriages in the 5 years we lived in Pattaya go awry.

I don't screw around, and neither do all of the next 99 men I know.

He's right. Married men don't screw around and they are not interested in massage full stop. When they come up with excuses like, "The fire in my loins is reserved for you," its just conceivable they are being honest.

In fact, every single white man in Asia I know - does not have liaisons with bargirls and has no interest in their firm ripe retrousee young bosoms, ..... thighs like mangoes, pouty full lips....

Traitor!

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I'm with you girlfriend and I am the wife of DVK and if he even thinks of playing around he'll be missing his b...s.

So DVK - tell us how you manage to sidestep the old 'ball and chain'.....just between us. It won't go beyond this Forum !

Do you tell her you are 'not attracted to Asian women' ....that old doozy always fools them. Arf Arf.

So DVK - tell us how you manage to sidestep the old 'ball and chain'.....just between us. It won't go beyond this Forum !

Do you tell her you are 'not attracted to Asian women' ....that old doozy always fools them. Arf Arf.

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"old ball and chain"? ha ha ...no, when first moved to Thai we were excited and optimistic and enveloped the people and were polite and showed respect and got the same in return..after 5 years and me teaching and seeing so many undercurrents in the social and political side of things(I'm a Poly/Sci major) the ugly side began to show itself and even though we had many friends here and have kept their friendships for 11 years I still say it is very difficult for a marriage to survive here.

(I'm a Poly/Sci major)

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Ooooh I am an Applied Physics major.

That means my comments don't have any value.

Goodness me, you need the proper university degree to even post here.

But seriously, I have known some people who have been so bored in their relationship, and they don't really care. It is sad, but they have no interest in their partner.

Probably too lazy or whatever to end it properly.

..." I was waiting for our son and his friend and I fell asleep in the car"" Now, this is after our son and his 22 year old friend had come back home and gone to bed. The other one was "I got lost so I stopped in and had a massage and it felt so good I had two of them"

This guy is an absolute Master ! This is gold dust !

Mum - to have a 22 year old, must be a bit frayed at the edges now, bless her.

Statistically, there isn't enough of a benchmark group here to make any inductions.

But its 3 for 3 in terms of claiming thoroughly good chaps as husbands. (Ok 2.5 for 3 as Mrs Merlin kinda fears the worst). If extrapolated across a wider sample, those numbers don't seem to stack up realistically.

Would wives want to know though? If its kept in the brothel its fairly unthreatening.

As I used to say to the guys I was asked to fix up with nubile teenies, "Its all very well if you can just have a bit of one-night fun, but beware the 'bolt of lightning'..that one day one of these little ingenues might just touch your heart....because thats when your real trouble starts."

Edited February 12, 200521 yr by The_Moog

Statistically, there isn't enough of a benchmark group here to make any inductions.

But its 3 for 3 in terms of claiming thoroughly good chaps as husbands. (Ok 2.5 for 3 as Mrs Merlin kinda fears the worst). If extrapolated across a wider sample, those numbers don't seem to stack up realistically.

Would wives want to know though? If its kept in the brothel its fairly unthreatening.

As I used to say to the guys I was asked to fix up with nubile teenies, "Its all very well if you can just have a bit of one-night fun, but beware the 'bolt of lightning'..that one day one of these little ingenues might just touch your heart....because thats when your real trouble starts."

In these days of AIDS? Oh absolutely I would want to know.

Honesty means far more to me than security, frankly, and just the fact of the deception would probably hurt me more than the fact of the physical act (as long as he stayed clean, that is). If I couldn't trust my husband how could I stay with him? How could I continue a relationship based on lies and dishonesty? Why would I waste my life on someone who had so little respect for me that they would do such a thing?

And no madsere, I am not divorced, nor a lesbian, nor living in Afghanistan. In fact I have been happily married for 15 years. But I do respect myself and I do have standards of behavior that I expect (just as my husband does). Pity we don't all apply the same standards to our own behavior that we expect of others.

Edited February 12, 200521 yr by sbk

dvk1951 

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Moog, I am with you on this one.

Seems like a good concept, open a forum where woman can perhaps develop their own comfort zone and then invade it with sexist female bashing comments. Wonder how long they will remain comfortable.

Boo, perhaps a grain of salt is in order but then again it is obvious that your IQ is not the same as your shoe size, doubt the same can be said of madsere

Your right, my IQ is considerably larger than my shoe size My husband & I courted for a couple of years before marrying & I made my position clear on the subject of infedelity (my own father ######ed around for years before my mum kicked him out). If I find out it's happened, he's out & vise versa, the day I start seriously considering other guys is the day I tell him I'm leaving, if you can't respect your husband then whats the point in having a life together. It's bad enough at work when you have bad feelings for someone but at least you can go home, but sleeping in the same bed as someone you don't care about, no way. Better I'm on my own (I was single for 6 years before meeting my hubby, a few lovers/losers but nothing serious) & the other person can try to find happiness elsewhere. Who's to say in 15 years my ideas about this will change, you never know

I also don't have to worry about thai women as my husband is thai, if he wanted one he could have married one years ago, as it was he's one of the few thai men, I know of, in his 30's with no previous marriage & no kids. He "obviously" doesn't have the same sense of of the forbidden that some western guys do when they come to LOS, as he's been around thai women his whole life (his mothers one )

Some less enlightened guys may find my stance on this subject feminist but I'm a very traditional wife & as well as working, I take care of my husband & house & plan on having children very soon, I just happen to have my own mind & views on this & other subjects & fortunately for me my husband understands & respects my opinions

I think everyone has their own "comfort" zone & if they are willing to turn a blind eye, then thats their way of dealing with it, I'm not one of those people & have, fortunatly, a very well paid job, a great family & friends & am capable of being on my own, some women (& men) just can't be on their own & if they choose to ignore what their partner does behind their back then it's up to them.