midas Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Does anyone think the security industry in Thailand is a bit " overdone " ? If buddhism is supposed to breed such good feelings in people, why are so many security guards needed in so many places ? In supermarkets every second person must be a potential shoplifter and every visitor to a condomium block a potential robber - the way the guards act some places. Take my own building for example where there is a prefectly good electronic key card system - and yet we still have a private army of guards ??! I dont think I have ever seen such a high concentration of security personnel as one does in Thailand....... Is is just " jobs for the boys " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknight Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Does anyone think the security industry in Thailand is a bit " overdone " ?If buddhism is supposed to breed such good feelings in people, why are so many security guards needed in so many places ? In supermarkets every second person must be a potential shoplifter and every visitor to a condomium block a potential robber - the way the guards act some places. Take my own building for example where there is a prefectly good electronic key card system - and yet we still have a private army of guards ??! I dont think I have ever seen such a high concentration of security personnel as one does in Thailand....... Is is just " jobs for the boys " ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> think it's just to add some class to a development , the more security , the higher up.. and the guards are bloody cheap , they mostly second as gardners spraying water in the morning as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 They should have their whistles confiscated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Darknight I agree with you in some situations... But there are many where it seems a complete waste of money to have some many and davethailand has a point although there are some good whistle blowers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobkk Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) /edit not topic or thailand related Edited February 21, 2005 by Darknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbo Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 They should have their whistles confiscated. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you are telling me. The times I've near had a bump with those soft gits and their whistles. I know where I'd like to shove em ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 import criminals from america!2 million Americans are currently behind bars, with some 4.5 million on parole or on probation. Another 3 million Americans are ex-convicts who have served their sentences and are no longer under the control of the justice system. Over 500,000 Americans are hardcore gang members.13 million Americans—7% of the adult population and nearly 12% of the men—have been found guilty of a serious crime. born a third world penal colony and back to a third world penal colony! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is your avatar name short for gobbledygook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreedomDude Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 It's not just security guards that are OVERemployed. What's the deal at gas stations? In the U.S., the average number of employees on duty at a gas station is probably about 1.5, while in Thailand it seems like no fewer than 15 on duty employees are required Those gas pumps are really complicated. People would never be able to operate them on their own, now would they?!? And why does every bus employ an additional person to collect money? Did it ever occur to 'em that people could possibly pay the driver upon boarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shola Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 import criminals from america!2 million Americans are currently behind bars, with some 4.5 million on parole or on probation. Another 3 million Americans are ex-convicts who have served their sentences and are no longer under the control of the justice system. Over 500,000 Americans are hardcore gang members.13 million Americans—7% of the adult population and nearly 12% of the men—have been found guilty of a serious crime. born a third world penal colony and back to a third world penal colony! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is your avatar name short for gobbledygook? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 555!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shola Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 It's not just security guards that are OVERemployed. What's the deal at gas stations? In the U.S., the average number of employees on duty at a gas station is probably about 1.5, while in Thailand it seems like no fewer than 15 on duty employees are required Those gas pumps are really complicated. People would never be able to operate them on their own, now would they?!? And why does every bus employ an additional person to collect money? Did it ever occur to 'em that people could possibly pay the driver upon boarding? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jeez! You whipcracker! You expect the poor old bus driver to drive AND collect money?! Where would Thailand be if us farang ran it ay?! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit42 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 It's purely a question of economics, although I do enjoy the amusing theories. Wherever you find a disparity in cost, in this case, labor costs, you can always hire more for less. BTW, this is true in any country, not just LOS. Be it additional guards, waiters, gas attendants, and so forth. I get equally annoyed by the guards and their whistles but have learn to accept their "help" in directing me to park. Just salute and smile and you'll be fine. Someday the cost of living in LOS will approach the standards that you're all use to and then you'll be asking where all the guards have gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreedomDude Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 only an american would call thais gooks!!!racist prejudiced slave lynching indian killing bloody yanks!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I apologize that my sperm donor's sperm donor's sperm donor's sperm donor's sperm donor's sperm donor may possibly have killied a Native American. I guess your bloodline is completely blameless of any attrocities going back 1,000s of generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I don't think she's calling you a gook. Gobbledygook is a term meaning something along the lines of talking a load of utter crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Why are you talking about this on this topic? You really need to leave before a good topic gets closed. Where the mods when you need them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk_mike Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 It's not just security guards that are OVERemployed. What's the deal at gas stations? In the U.S., the average number of employees on duty at a gas station is probably about 1.5, while in Thailand it seems like no fewer than 15 on duty employees are required Those gas pumps are really complicated. People would never be able to operate them on their own, now would they?!? And why does every bus employ an additional person to collect money? Did it ever occur to 'em that people could possibly pay the driver upon boarding? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jeez! You whipcracker! You expect the poor old bus driver to drive AND collect money?! Where would Thailand be if us farang ran it ay?! :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> On the buses, I am actually in favour of having a conductor. - can you imagine the wait of getting everyone as they get onto a bus having to find the correct change. (It's one of the reasons buses are so awful as an alternative method of transport in most other countries - because they spend so long at each bus stop while the driver makes change). Admittedly, they are a bit OTT at the petrol stations, but since all stations sell petrol and diesel for the same fixed price, the first station that makes you pump the petrol yourself is going to lose a lot of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto_manibo Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Since the salaries are so cheap, Thailand has become known to have an abundant service industry...However, I think this will change as Salaries increase, taxes, social welfare etc....Then it will be just like the States or Europe...pump your own gas....and less Rent-a-cop as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frequentatore Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Hire some security guards for a new building or a moo bahn and you will start seeing some stray dogs around the place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualtrough Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Sure beats the Philippines. Guards have guns there. Outside one of the major banks in Makati (Citibank?) I used to count 7 guards with shotguns outside at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedKelly Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Theres a lot of security about these days......so we need lots of guards. Give em a break.......think about the positives and spare a thought for the poor guys who sit alone all night in some godforesaken place guarding what many of us would think pointless to guard. How short must this job make their lives ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 On one hand, the wages are cheap enough you can afford to pay them to guard your gate at night. On the other hand, how much do think you should have to pay someone to sleep beside your gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya_Fox Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 My wife has found a good compromise...she teaches the security guard one or two words of English in passing...and he carries her shopping for her. She is very pleased that after 2 months he now says to her "Good morning Madam," instead of "Good morning Sir." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRilla Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Yeah, in the U.S. beverage delivery trucks have 1 driver. In India the same truck has a driver, a manager, and two hired hands. When labor is cheap, stock up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchFARANGbkk Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 And I guess that some security companies belongs to important people who can easily get big contracts... So better employ more security guards than needed... Corruption? Nainon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuky Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I had to fill my own tank up recently, strike me pink if I hadn't forgotten how The security guards are quite good at acquiring stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve2UK Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Sure beats the Philippines. Guards have guns there. Outside one of the major banks in Makati (Citibank?) I used to count 7 guards with shotguns outside at night. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll second that. Never forget going into a Manila burger joint and the guard saying "Enjoy your meal, sir" - as he held the door open with one hand and toted a pump-action 12-gauge in the other............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiboxer Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 The security guards in our moobaan are quite good. There used to be this one guard right near the entrance who blew his whistle constantly...haven't seen him around for a while. I guess the neighbors got tired of his noise. The guards who work out of a small guardbox and patrol a bit at night are decent guys. They'll help you get rid of a snake in your garden if need be. The wages for labor are low here, so the little bit that we all contribute towards their salaries is worth it I think. Must be a boring job though as a lot of them just sit around and chat/smoke all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuky Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 The guards who work out of a small guardbox and patrol a bit at night are decent guys. A night watchman is a man who earns his living without doing a day's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 It's not just security guards that are OVERemployed. What's the deal at gas stations? In the U.S., the average number of employees on duty at a gas station is probably about 1.5, while in Thailand it seems like no fewer than 15 on duty employees are required Those gas pumps are really complicated. People would never be able to operate them on their own, now would they?!? And why does every bus employ an additional person to collect money? Did it ever occur to 'em that people could possibly pay the driver upon boarding? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why complain - it's still cheap here & it keeps those people in a job. In the west - gas stations are self-service. Cheaper for the employer but not so good for the local economy. I say the more people employed the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiboxer Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I say the more people employed the better.As long as they do their jobs. What upsets me is when you go into a store with one person working the register and five others just standing around talking and none of them seem to notice the line of 10 people behind the open register. On top of that, it never occurs to them to open a second or third register to speed things along. If you're a service worker here, you have the advantage of getting paid since the workplace will keep you around even if you and your coworkers have no work to do whereas in the the US, they'll just send you home to save overhead. With labor being cheap here and the service industry paying MUCH less than in the West, it's probably not too big of a loss for the companies to keep these extra employees around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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