Just thought I'd mention what happened to me today. I was under the impression that any action one takes at Suan Plu Immigration which involves proving or providing your address would reset the "90 day address reporting" counter. I was wrong.

I had re-entered Thailand on 5 April, coming back from a trip to Malaysia. My 90 day reporting period was thus reset to that date. Based on that, I should have reported my address to Immigration on about 5 July.

My 1 year non-o 'thai wife' visa had been valid up until 12 May, so around that time I went to get it renewed. Provided all the usual forms, photos of the house, proof of address etc, and got a new visa and final stamp saying 20 May, with my visa valid until 12 May 2010. I thought this would somehow reset my 90 day reporting schedule.

I thus returned for my 90 day reporting today, just before 90 days from the 20 May. I've had to pay the 2,000 baht fine, and was told I absolutely should have come 90 days after 5 April, when I last re-entered the country (or of course 90 days from my last 90 day reporting receipt).

Now my only problem is placating the wife about the 2,000 baht fine.

Nick

Your permission to stay date and 90 day reporting are two separate matters and are not interlinked.

Only a new entry to Thailand and the very FIRST application for extension of stay does reset the 90 days clock to 0.

Subsequent applications or any other activity at IMM does NOT influence the counter!

opalhort

As said they are two different processes.

Yes 2 different things, but Immigration should be computerised and thus when you report for your extension the 90days begins again, also Immigration would send you out a reminder about your next 90day reporting, be it by Email directly using a database or by post.

But this is Thailand...................

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by beano2274

Yes 2 different things, but Immigration should be computerised and thus when you report for your extension the 90days begins again, also Immigration would send you out a reminder about your next 90day reporting, be it by Email directly using a database or by post.

But this is Thailand...................

If only ...

Basically if you haven't filled out a TM 47 form you haven't reported.

Just a note on the same topic there appears to be a scam going on with this 90 day reporting.I changed companies and got a new non immigrant B visa but no repoting in 90 days slip. When a colleague went to report for me 90 days after the new visa started they refused to allow her to do it as we didnt have the slip of paper despite showing them the new visa start date. Because it wasnt me there was no fine but now I dont know what to do should I volunteer myself for a 2000 baht fine or ignore reporting for a year.Do the fines keep adding up every 90 days or if I left the country at the end of the year would anyone notice? Advice would be much appreciated.

If you "turn yourself in" voluntarily the fine is 2000 baht no matter the length of time you hadn't reported.

You report every 90 days you are in the country irrespective of what extension you have or when you got it.

Changing or getting a new extension is irrelevant . Every 90 days you report.

It is down to you to keep track and yes the fine is 2,000 Baht.

The new visa has no effect on your 90 day report. You just need to do it every 90 days and the new visa didn't reset that.

The fine will be 2,000 baht, regardless of how long you didn't report.

I'm sure litebeer, lopburi or mario will confirm but if you're actually "caught" not having reported rather than going to immi and putting your hands up isn't the fine 2000 baht plus an amount per day fine as to how long you were overdue reporting?

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by mca

Thanks for the advice I guess I may as well wait until the end of this visa before reporting again. By the way do you notice the irony in the fact that when you apply for a new visa you give them your address ie report the address to the same people but it seems it doesnt count. TIT, and Somchai plus friends at immigration cop for another 2000 baht. At least I will save myself 2 trips to the black hole of Calcutta (immigration)maybe thats worth 2000 baht.

Direct quote from immigration website:

"If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht."

The report slips I always got from Korat Immigration always said that the Maximum fine is 5,000 Baht and 200 Baht for every day you are late. The normal fine is 2,000 Baht.

Jontom it is not a scam , It has been this way for years. Get used to it.

Direct quote from immigration website:

"If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht."

Here is the link

Immigration

scroll down to the bottom

Here you go.

Or you could strike it lucky like me last extension (where through sheer bone idleness I hadn't reported) when the NK immi officer noticed I hadn't reported and said "OK, we'll count today as your reporting date."

Until I walked out into fresh air I was half expecting him to call me back and say "Only joking! 2000 baht please. We love a joke around here!"

What happens if you leave the country with a reentry permit is the reporting clock reset?

What happens if you leave the country with a reentry permit is the reporting clock reset?

Yes. The 90 days start again when you return.

What happens if you leave the country with a reentry permit is the reporting clock reset?

Yes

What happens if you leave the country with a reentry permit is the reporting clock reset?

Yes, it resets the clock and when you return the 90 day closck start from new again.

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

Thanks for all your advice looks like I had better go down to immigration with a wad of notes 2000-5000 bahts worth!

Cheers anyway!

It will be 2,000 Baht.

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

If you are on extension of stay and have a re-entry permit and leave the country continually within 90 days of arrival then yes you would not have to report to immigration (Form TM6 - arrival card - effectively does that for you).

But in Post#8 you said you have a new Non-B visa, so unless your permission to stay has since been extended (by marriage/work etc) you will have to do a border run at 90 days and 90 day reporting will not affect you.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by thaiphoon

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

If you are on extension of stay and have a re-entry permit and leave the country continually within 90 days of arrival then yes you would not have to report to immigration (Form TM6 - arrival card - effectively does that for you).

But in Post#8 you said you have a new Non-B visa, so unless your permission to stay has since been extended (by marriage/work etc) you will have to do a border run at 90 days and 90 day reporting will not affect you.

Sorry I should have said I'm on an extension of stay. Yes my original visa was a non-B.

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

Technically yes, but economic idiocy. Re-entry permit fee + visa fee for neighboring country (Laos, Cambodia, etc.) every 89th day would soon eclipse the 20 baht worth of stamps and a two 3-baht envelopes needed every 90 days to mail in your form. Go figure.

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

Technically yes, but economic idiocy. Re-entry permit fee + visa fee for neighboring country (Laos, Cambodia, etc.) every 89th day would soon eclipse the 20 baht worth of stamps and a two 3-baht envelopes needed every 90 days to mail in your form. Go figure.

But maybe the OP has a valid reason to travel in/out of the country regularly because of business ... and for some neighbouring countries may not need visa depending upon nationality.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by thaiphoon

The 90 day reporting is for 90 consecutive days stay so basically if you leave Thailand before the 90 days is up with a re entry permit the clock starts again when you return because you hadn't stayed in Thailand for a full 90 days. I'm on a single entry non-B so technically I could leave Thailand on the 89th day with a re entry permit, come back the next day and do this for the rest of my life without ever having to report.

Technically yes, but economic idiocy. Re-entry permit fee + visa fee for neighboring country (Laos, Cambodia, etc.) every 89th day would soon eclipse the 20 baht worth of stamps and a two 3-baht envelopes needed every 90 days to mail in your form. Go figure.

Just giving it as an example of how the law works. Not expecting any sane person to do it!

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by mca