Where Can I Find Something To Stop Smoking?

[manum]

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

[Dancali]

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

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About a year ago, I noticed Nicorette in a pharmacy on the main road near the Sala Daeng BTS station. I remember it being more expensive than in the US.

[malcolminthemiddle]

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

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Hi Manum,

If you really want to stop smoking, gum, patches or any other type of aid is useless since it only feeds not cures your addiction. The only thing that can stop you smoking is yourself.

Take some time, a week or two if necessary, to search the web to understand the chemical addiction that smoking is, there are plenty of informative web sites out there.

When you are ready, set a date and stop for just one day, go to bed early that will help. Once you've proved to yourself you can stop for one day, you will be able to stop for ever.

Once you have stopped you must keep this saying in the back of your mind, no matter how long you have stopped, remember you were an addict.

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

Good luck, be strong for one day, it will be the best thing you ever did.

Oh and by the way, be prepared to put on a few Kgs.

[Limbo]

I think it is a product of Glaxo.

It is named Zyban.

It is a cure of a month and costs about 2000 Baht.

Lung specialists have it.

The first weeks you are still allowed to smoke and during the fourth week you are supposed to stop spontaneously.

I should order it myself...

Good luck!

[ThaiPauly]

Nicotene Patches are only available on presciption in Thailand. Just go to any hospital see a Doctor and he will gladly supply you with them.

The ones I have are Nicotinell and they are a ###### site cheaper than buying them in Europe.

My opinion is they work in conjunction with willpower. In the UK a seven day supply is priced at around the same price as seven days worth of ciggies. So seven days worth of ciggies here is a 1/4 the price. Not really the point, cant say if they work yet as I lost my willpower before I started using them.

All the VERY BEST OF LUCK

Keep us posted on your progress, a lot of us may be spurned on if you manage it.

TP

[Harmonica]

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

If you are not physically fit and have not done any excercise for a long time, just try climbing a modest hill on let's say, a Sunday. Go with a friend or two.

After the gagging, coughing up phlegm, breathing difficulties etc., and a night of possible chest discomfort, you will at least be that much closer to recognition that the habit has led to dire circumstances.

You've got to get to that heart-wrenching moment of extreme despair & hopelessness -- wherein you realize that for you to live, this "thing" within you must die! If/when you get there you will be amazed at the power of "decision" that stems from total "hopelessness"

I've been there and this is the road I traversed. Its been 8 years since I quit and an excellent byproduct of the "hopelessness" is that I am very tolerant of smokers; if I like them and am in their company and they've gotta smoke, why, I can handle it easily!

But the entire experience tore me an a*shole or two! It was the hardest ever!

Goodluck! By the way, the patches etc., did doodly squat for me!

[gburns57au]

Zyban......smoke normal for the first week and then stop....can have some side effects....and the success rate for stopping smoking is not high however a lot of people reduced their nicotine intake....I cut mine by a third after taking it but that eventually creeped back up again....

Cold turkey is still the best way but you need support around you....

[udon]

Try Aus made cigars, our tobacco is crap.

It might put you off smoking and the smell is terrible.

Good luck.

[Thomas_Merton]

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

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Hi Manum,

If you really want to stop smoking, gum, patches or any other type of aid is useless since it only feeds not cures your addiction. The only thing that can stop you smoking is yourself.

Take some time, a week or two if necessary, to search the web to understand the chemical addiction that smoking is, there are plenty of informative web sites out there.

When you are ready, set a date and stop for just one day, go to bed early that will help. Once you've proved to yourself you can stop for one day, you will be able to stop for ever.

Once you have stopped you must keep this saying in the back of your mind, no matter how long you have stopped, remember you were an addict.

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

Good luck, be strong for one day, it will be the best thing you ever did.

Oh and by the way, be prepared to put on a few Kgs.

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This is the best advice you will get. I was a 40 cigs a dayer for 20 years. I stopped smoking over 10 years ago by using the above method.

IMHO it is the only way that really works.

You may put on a few kilos but you will feel much better.

Best of luck.

[Neeranam]

QUOTE(malcolm @ 2005-04-06 08:20:48)

QUOTE(manum @ 2005-04-06 07:00:35)

Is there any place in Bangkok where I can find products like Nicorette. Plasters..whatever. I have asked several pharmacies with no luck

Hi Manum,

If you really want to stop smoking, gum, patches or any other type of aid is useless since it only feeds not cures your addiction. The only thing that can stop you smoking is yourself.

Take some time, a week or two if necessary, to search the web to understand the chemical addiction that smoking is, there are plenty of informative web sites out there.

When you are ready, set a date and stop for just one day, go to bed early that will help. Once you've proved to yourself you can stop for one day, you will be able to stop for ever.

Once you have stopped you must keep this saying in the back of your mind, no matter how long you have stopped, remember you were an addict.

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF

Good luck, be strong for one day, it will be the best thing you ever did.

Oh and by the way, be prepared to put on a few Kgs.

This is the best advice you will get. I was a 40 cigs a dayer for 20 years. I stopped smoking over 10 years ago by using the above method.

IMHO it is the only way that really works.

You may put on a few kilos but you will feel much better.

Best of luck.

I'd like to second the above.

I tried the gum, but to no avail.

Exercise is best when the cravings come on really strong.

I found a sauna every day, after a workout helped too.

[Neeranam]

Trying to taper was useless too.

Choose a day and stick to that day, don't make excuses like being busy at work or whatever, for me withdrawals only lasted about 3/4 days and I was lucky not to get it bad.

I smoked 30 a day for about 15 years.

I must admit that I have had a few now and then, but never getting hooked again, but I don't know any other smokers who have done this.

[maerim]

Nicorette. Plasters

As I don't smoke but I believe these thing really do work.

Just stick one over your mouth then try smoking a cigarette.

[wilson steer]

Every time you have a craving for a cigarette, gargle with neat gin. It works.

Nicotine is a poisonous alkaloid yet addictive in 80% of people. The rest are just smoking from habit or boredom. The liver processes nicotine, yet in some people the 'high' of smoking is less important.

Physical side effects of quitting are unpleasant, but gin does work.

The main problem is keeping away from smokers for the first two-three weeks.

Since I quit smoking, I feel great. I used to cough up mountains of brown phlegm every morning and my tongue was so deep in fur/shagpile carpet it used to choke me.

I still miss the ritual of smoking, and I would begin again if I was doomed with a disease; but Health v Smoking is the big factor.

[Kan Win]

Nicorette. Plasters

As I don't smoke but I believe these thing really do work.

Just stick one over your mouth then try smoking a cigarette.

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[RDN]

What excellent posts and advice! What did it for me was similar to Harmonica's idea:

If you are not physically fit and have not done any exercise for a long time, just try climbing a modest hill on  let's say, a Sunday.  Go with a friend or two. 

After the gagging, coughing up phlegm, breathing difficulties etc., and a night of possible chest discomfort, you will at least be that much closer to recognition that the habit has led to dire circumstances....

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With me, it was trying to play "squash". What a total physical wreck I was! It was the sudden, shaming, realisation that I couldn't run around a squash court for 30 minutes that made me give up.

Good luck to you - it WILL be worth it.

[aughie]

I quit cold turkey. Being truely sick of it helps. Quit and just don't smoke that first cigarette again. For me there was a tickle or urge to smoke the first one. If I succumbed to the urge the subsequent cravings to have another were even worse. So tolerating the urge is easier than the craving. If that makes any sense. It takes about seven days to get over the hump. After that the urges get farther apart. Eventually, I forgot about smoking because it was no longer part of my routine.

In the begining avoid places where there is cigarette smoke. Excercise. If you get a strong urge play a video game. Two hours of racing thru a maze should distract you till the urge passes. Sometimes when I smell it I think about lighting up but I'm over it.

Good luck.

[simcity]

try

www.fascino.co.th

i got some for about 900 bahts for box of 105 , suriwong chemist want 1400 for it .

i saw one show in diamond tower silom selling it , not sure about price there .

[Jockstar]

I'm currently trying to give up. My mate brought some patches over from the UK. But the problem is with this climate. You sweat! No control over that.So i am not using them anymore. So i have started to smoke less and less. I used to be on around 20 a day. I'm now down to about 5or 6. Going out drinking is the hardest. But i have given up in the past. Unfortunately i started again. So slowly slowly i am getting less and less aday. I reckon . Not long now till i quit for good. Its not fukcing easy. I know. But keep trying. If you go out one night and smoke a shit load. Then dont think thats it. I'm smoking again. Dont be hard on yourself. Just look at it as. Ok its a set back. Try and try again mate. You can do it. I am in the same position as you now. Please keep us informed. Together and with the support of others we can do it. Good luck!

[malcolminthemiddle]

I'm currently trying to give up. My mate brought some patches over from the UK. But the problem is with this climate. You sweat! No control over that.So i am not using them anymore. So i have started to smoke less and less. I used to be on around 20 a day. I'm now down to about 5or 6. Going out drinking is the hardest. But i have given up in the past. Unfortunately i started again. So slowly slowly i am getting less and less aday. I reckon . Not long now till i quit for good. Its not fukcing easy. I know. But keep trying. If you go out one night and smoke a shit load. Then dont think thats it. I'm smoking again. Dont be hard on yourself. Just look at it as. Ok its a set back. Try and try again mate. You can do it. I am in the same position as you now. Please keep us informed. Together and with the support of others we can do it. Good luck!

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By cutting back you are only succeeding in torturing yourself by maintaining the nicotine level within your system. There is a natural level of nicotine within all of us called the "nicotine threshold" you must bring your level down to or below this threshold, while you maintain a level above the threshold you will always be addicted.

When you drink alcohol, the natural salt level in your body increases, nicotine is a counterbalance to this salt level increase. Doesn't matter if you are at home drinking alone or at an all night rave, the chemical reaction caused by alcohol will be the same. The increased craving for nicotine (a cigarette) has nothing to do with the music it has to do with the increase in salt levels caused by the alcohol. Because your nicotine level is way over the threshold it doesn't take much alcohol for your body to crave more nicotine to offset the increase in salt level. For people with normal nicotine levels (non smokers) there is no craving when they drink alhohol although their salt level also increases.

Whenever you feel the urge to smoke because of a nearby smoker, watch the smoker closely you will see 95% of the smoke stays inside the body, knowing and seeing this should help.

Nicotine is an alkaloid poison that occurs in tobacco it is used in medicine and as an insecticide. The first step to giving up is to understand your addiction, cutting back is a futile step which will only serve to torment you, it will not help you stop.

[donna]

My boyfriend has quit since Sunday April 3. Man is he grumpy! He is so moody that he won't talk. I am trying to be supportive, and would never encourage him to go back just because of his moods, but it must be very tough. I've never been a smoker but seeing him go through this makes me glad I didn't start.

Any clues to get him over this grumpiness, or should I just leave him to it? From what you guys say the worst may already be over, but he is finding it SO hard to do. I think he will do it, though.

[Thomas_Merton]

My boyfriend has quit since Sunday April 3.  Man is he grumpy!  He is so moody that he won't talk.  I am trying to be supportive, and would never encourage him to go back just because of his moods, but it must be very tough.  I've never been a smoker but seeing him go through this makes me glad I didn't start. 

Any clues to get him over this grumpiness, or should I just leave him to it?  From what you guys say the worst may already be over, but he is finding it SO hard to do.  I think he will do it, though.

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The key and solution to any man's grumpiness, lies in only one place.

Do I need to write any more?

[RDN]

My boyfriend has quit since Sunday April 3.  Man is he grumpy!  He is so moody that he won't talk.  I am trying to be supportive, and would never encourage him to go back just because of his moods, but it must be very tough.  I've never been a smoker but seeing him go through this makes me glad I didn't start. 

Any clues to get him over this grumpiness, or should I just leave him to it?  From what you guys say the worst may already be over, but he is finding it SO hard to do.  I think he will do it, though.

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The key and solution to any man's grumpiness, lies in only one place.

Do I need to write any more?

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Yes, but, most smokers like a cigarette after....

[Thomas_Merton]

My boyfriend has quit since Sunday April 3.  Man is he grumpy!  He is so moody that he won't talk.  I am trying to be supportive, and would never encourage him to go back just because of his moods, but it must be very tough.  I've never been a smoker but seeing him go through this makes me glad I didn't start. 

Any clues to get him over this grumpiness, or should I just leave him to it?  From what you guys say the worst may already be over, but he is finding it SO hard to do.  I think he will do it, though.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The key and solution to any man's grumpiness, lies in only one place.

Do I need to write any more?

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Yes, but, most smokers like a cigarette after....

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A young couple had been married for a couple of weeks, but the man was always after his wife to quit smoking. One afternoon, she lit up after some love making, and he said, "You really ought to quit." She, getting tired of his nagging, said, "I really enjoy a good cigarette after sex." He replied, "But they stunt your growth." She asked if he ever smoked, and he replied that he never had. Smiling and lifting her gaze to his groin, she said, "So, what's your excuse?"

[odowdchr]

Quomem is the name for Zyban in Thailand. A mild antidepressant that breaks the addiction if you need help, but is not a nicotine replacement therapy like patches. They say they work well together.

Bought some last week in Chiang Mai to bring home to England. Not cheap for Thailand, but you can buy it over the counter in a pharmacy with none of the hassle you get in England.

[malcolminthemiddle]

My boyfriend has quit since Sunday April 3.  Man is he grumpy!  He is so moody that he won't talk.  I am trying to be supportive, and would never encourage him to go back just because of his moods, but it must be very tough.  I've never been a smoker but seeing him go through this makes me glad I didn't start. 

Any clues to get him over this grumpiness, or should I just leave him to it?  From what you guys say the worst may already be over, but he is finding it SO hard to do.  I think he will do it, though.

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This is the hardest period, having you there with your support will be a great help to him. Unfortunately there isn't much else you can do apart from showing how proud you are of him for breaking the habit (action not words).

Once he realises himself that he has broken the habit he will become very proud of himself, rightfully so, and the grumpiness and bad moods will subside.

Going for a walk (your suggestion) can help when the cravings are severe.

Hang on in there, nearly there.

PS I assume that you have got rid of all smoking paraphernalia at home, cigs, lighters, ash trays etc .

[Neeranam]

When I quit, I used to carry a pack of fags around with me for about 6 months after, just in case.

It worked for me, knowing I had them if I needed them.

Unfortunately a rich friend gave me a box of very good cigars, what was I supposed to do with them?

[Dancali]

I'd just like to add that everybody's experiences are different. Many people here are saying that cold turkey with no help from meds is the only way to go, but I had great success with meds.

I couldn't just taper back my cigarette use as I would often just start chain-smoking again. But learning to just chew gum eventually kind of made me forget about smoking; chewing gum, while fun, doesn't have the same sort of addictiveness of cigarettes so I was able to easily start to forget about the habit of chewing the gum too.

[meadish_sweetball]

I used nicotine tablets (Nicotab) and they worked great for me - the release of nicotine from the tablets is more direct and so resembles the buzz you get from a cigarette more than chewing gum like Nicorette, which has a rather slow release of nicotine that does not satisfy your craving too well, at least in my experience.

I did not follow the advice on the package though, instead I used the tablets as my very last refuge - when I had chewed my nails up to my shoulders and was in a cold sweat, I would take one - just the general craving was not enough for me to allow myself one.

But what really did it was a close relative of mine who got lung cancer. Even though I thought I knew all about the dangers of smoking before, I didnt really "know" until death stared me in the face.

A "mantra" took me through the hard times - you dont want to end up like that, do you?

When you *really* realize cancer and death is not only something that happens to other people, you WILL quit. My entire family went from heavy smokers to non-smokers within the course of one year. Personally I was a heavy smoker for 15 years (20 cigs+ per day), but I could still quit with the right motivation.

Edited April 8, 2005 by meadish_sweetball

[malcolminthemiddle]

I used nicotine tablets (Nicotab) and they worked great for me - the release of nicotine from the tablets is more direct and so resembles the buzz you get from a cigarette more than chewing gum like Nicorette, which has a rather slow release of nicotine that does not satisfy your craving too well, at least in my experience.

I did not follow the advice on the package though, instead I used the tablets as my very last refuge - when I had chewed my nails up to my shoulders and was in a cold sweat, I would take one - just the general craving was not enough for me to allow myself one.

But what really did it was a close relative of mine who got lung cancer. Even though I thought I knew all about the dangers of smoking before, I didnt really "know" until death stared me in the face.

A "mantra" took me through the hard times - you dont want to end up like that, do you?

When you *really* realize cancer and death is not only something that happens to other people, you WILL quit. My entire family went from heavy smokers to non-smokers within the course of one year. Personally I was a heavy smoker for 15 years (20 cigs+ per day), but I could still quit with the right motivation.

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A new sub forum named "Stop Smoking Project" has been established under the Health, Body and Medicine Forum for those smokers who would like to join an online self assist programme in an effort to break the habit.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31431