If I Lost My Passport ...

[bartlaz]

Hi

here is my problem:

i can't get a new tourist visa (already had 4) and i can go to the border for a visa-run 2 more times. so i left about 35 days. The problem is I will flight to Italy, my country, in 58 days. I don't want to overstay or flight to a near country. So what can i do?

If i lost my passport after i used all the visa-runs, what happen when i get the new passport? i mean, with the new passport i'm suppose to go to the immigration to get a stamp, how many days they will give me? 30? or they check my records and they give me 2 weeks? And with the new passport can i get a new tourist visa abroad? Just to postdate the ticket and avoid the winter in italy

thank you

bruno

[steppenwolf108]

It depends if the Italian Embassy is going to issue a new passport or only an emergency travel document [foglio di via].

If you can get a new passport as replacement of the "lost one", you will have to go to the Immigration Department with copy of the police report, copy of your old passport and last stamp [make sure you make copies ahead!] and you should have a stamp on your new passport without being forced to leave the Country.

Then, once your stamp expires, you just do another couple of visa runs and enjoy the winter in Thailand.

But as I said, it all based on the Italian Embassy first...

Immigration Department have a record of all the movements of your current passport on their PCs...so it's a sec for them to confirm your visa status and transfer it to the new passport.

[lopburi3]

You would not gain any days having a lost passport - it would be stamped with your current exit date. You do not say why you can not obtain a new visa or why you can only go to border two more times.

[Mario2008]

You are talking about deliberately destroying your passport, which is probably a crime. Do not do that.

Your information about only being able to get 4 tourist visas and 2 border runs is wrong. There is no limit on border runs and only some embassies/consul in the region refuse to issue after been given a certain number of tourist visas.

[bartlaz]

You would not gain any days having a lost passport - it would be stamped with your current exit date. You do not say why you can not obtain a new visa or why you can only go to border two more times.

i can't obtain a new visa because i've got 4 thai visa in my passport

[bartlaz]

You are talking about deliberately destroying your passport, which is probably a crime. Do not do that.

Your information about only being able to get 4 tourist visas and 2 border runs is wrong. There is no limit on border runs and only some embassies/consul in the region refuse to issue after been given a certain number of tourist visas.

3 visa runs. i wrote 2 because i've already used the first one. why u say unlimited visa runs?!?!?! the limit is 3.

When i got the 4th visa in Singapore i was told that was the last one (tourist visa). And Singapore uses to be thai-visa-friendly.

i was told i've to leave the country for 3 months, then can obtain a new tourist visa.

[Mario2008]

You can try to get a new tourist visa from Vientianne, Laos.

[thaiphoon]

Singapore can blow hot and cold and there are frequent rule changes at that consulate. As already said, would suggest you try at Vientiane.

[bartlaz]

Singapore can blow hot and cold and there are frequent rule changes at that consulate. As already said, would suggest you try at Vientiane.

so looks like the limit of 3 visa is embassy's discretion ... thanks for the suggestion, will try at Vientiane

btw if they don't give me a new visa will i get 30 days at the border even i travel by bus?

thank for all the answers

[Jdietz]

15 days if no visa and not traveling by air. But you'll get a nice double entry for free at Vientiane, no problem. Just make sure to ask for 2 entries on the form, will be good for a loooong time.

[bartlaz]

i hope. 2 entries? Last time (in Singapore) i was told no more then 60 days. 2 entries only if the visa is issued from my own country. i'm italian.

Maybe some countries have more privileges ....

[Mario2008]

Embassies and consulats set their own rules, resulting in some being very strict and some being very relaxed and all what is bewteen these two. Vientianne is relaxed regarding tourist visas.

[thaiphoon]

As an Italian national you should be able to obtain double entry tourist visa at Vientiane. With extensions and a border run in the middle, that would give you nearly 6 months stay. Consulates do set their own rules on visa issue.

[bartlaz]

thank u for the advices. Next week i'm going to Vientine. Once i'm back will post here the result.

btw MARIO2008, u wrote " There is no limit on border runs ... ". I think this is wrong. 3 is the limit for the visa-run

[thaiphoon]

There is no limit on the number of times you can enter the Kingdom, but 4 back to back 'visa exempt' entries at a land border may lead to questioning by immigration as to what you are doing. Good luck with your visa.

[bartlaz]

There is no limit on the number of times you can enter the Kingdom, but 4 back to back 'visa exempt' entries at a land border may lead to questioning by immigration as to what you are doing. Good luck with your visa.

maybe my english is not so good and i could misunderstand something, but i'm almost sure the limit of visa-run (after the visa expired) is 3.

what i understand from u is that i can stay in thailand forever if every 2 weeks i go to Poipet for a visa run.

[lopburi3]

There is no restriction on the number of visa exempt entries and never has been. As said, after four they may ask you some questions to determine if you are perhaps working in Thailand without a work permit but to date have not seen any report of anyone not being able to obtain a visa exempt entry because of too many.

[bartlaz]

There is no restriction on the number of visa exempt entries and never has been. As said, after four they may ask you some questions to determine if you are perhaps working in Thailand without a work permit but to date have not seen any report of anyone not being able to obtain a visa exempt entry because of too many.

That's good.

i don't want to look heavy and i trust and listen u (that's why i opened a topic here), but i remember, maybe 1 year ago, in a thaivisa's newsletter, i read " crackdown on tourist visa ... 3 visas ... " and in a post (can't find it now) someone was talking about the problem to get the 4th tourist visa without leaving thailand for at least 3 months. i thought this is the law, then the consulates can interpret it

As the 3 visa runs. this is the law. mario told is not like that; visa runs are unlimited. i think that is wrong. i've been living here for 4 years and the 3 visa run's law have always been like that. it changed last year: now u get 2 weeks, before was 4 weeks. Please confirm this

[Mario2008]

A vise exempt entry is no unlimited, but indeed you only get 15 days when you re-enter Thailand by land without a visa. if you re-enter Thailand by air wihout a visa you get 30 days.

What I meant was that there no longer is a limit on the number of days you can sta on a visa exempt entry. For a while there was the rule you could only stay for 90 days in a 6 month period. That rule has been abolished.

[bartlaz]

A vise exempt entry is no unlimited, but indeed you only get 15 days when you re-enter Thailand by land without a visa. if you re-enter Thailand by air wihout a visa you get 30 days.

What I meant was that there no longer is a limit on the number of days you can sta on a visa exempt entry. For a while there was the rule you could only stay for 90 days in a 6 month period. That rule has been abolished.

u mean "now unlimited"? because u wrote "no unlimited.

i think u mean now is unlimited. that means i could stay forever in thailand with a visa run every 2 weeks, isn't it?

at Vientiane do i need a copy of the flight to my country? because i didn't confirm it yet.

thank u for the answer

[Mario2008]

Yes, I meant now unlimited. No, you don't need a confirmed ticket back to your country.

[bartlaz]

Yes, I meant now unlimited. No, you don't need a confirmed ticket back to your country.

thanks so much Mario for your help