spongeman Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well for sure not everyone will understand every element of the Supreme Court findings but people are not stupid, they will understand parts of it and they will get the flavour. The village people can't understand why the government is entitled to Thaksin's money. They have no idea what is really going on here...totally brainwashed. It is an uphill battle to try and educate them. A bit like trying to get a Met's fan to say the Yankees are a good ball team! How patronising. And foolish to boot as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senshusband Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 It is how busy the website is with people commenting and updating I am very aware what the definition is. I would like to know the number of users online at the present moment on this forum. Oh, sorry. It is 834. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 The state allegedly suffered Bt140 million damage. The court dismisses claims the loan was also meant to buy from other Thai firms. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 OK, so the AEC was "legally sanctioned", according to this ruling. So why were they disbanded? Was that legal? If they had a list of the top most "unusually wealthy" people in Thailand, then they should have been allowed to keep going down the list, after getting Thaksin. It wouldn't have taken them long to get to the very people who created the AEC. Kn Jet and Kn Jamespittman they way you two are nit picking it would appear that you feel that things are not going the way you would hope. The way the two of you go on like "he did it why can't I" syndrome, leads me to believe that if we were in the states you two would be part of the Limbaugh Lemmings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 "unnecessary damage" on EXIM bank and Thai state budget, court says. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshbags Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Talking about Cambodia, we have the dodgy going ons re supposed legitimate investing ect. ect. to look forward to .........maybe. Not unlike the you scratch my back i,ll scratch yours, Burmese scenario ??? Oh no not another misuse of power debate marshbags .......................................................but... to T.Visa,s activity / active regulars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am very aware what the definition is. I would like to know the number of users online at the present moment on this forum. 5848 according to the main page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Claims that the loan helped Thailand when it comes to gas exploration project in Burma are irrelevant, court says. Majority decisions, this govt policy benefited Shin Corp and Thai Com. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 here it comes.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrakers Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The court dismisses claims the loan was also meant to buy from other Thai firms.-- The Nation Loosely translated as: The court caught them out on yet more lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Feb 26, 20104. Did the defendant cause damage to the state with his alleged alteration of the telecom concession fee to excise tax? The judges voted guilty verdict. The defendant abused his power to cause damage to the state by more than Bt60 billion. Voting result: Majority 7. On failure to enforce satellite concession contract resulting in public damage of Bt20 billion and resulting in the benefits to Shin Corp and Thaicom. The judges voted guilty verdict. Voting result: Majority That's 80 billion worth of damage so far. He has a little over 76 billion confiscated, I wonder if they'll bill him for the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well for sure not everyone will understand every element of the Supreme Court findings but people are not stupid, they will understand parts of it and they will get the flavour. The village people can't understand why the government is entitled to Thaksin's money. They have no idea what is really going on here...totally brainwashed. It is an uphill battle to try and educate them. A bit like trying to get a Met's fan to say the Yankees are a good ball team! If you spend a little more time in the villages and towns with such folks, you will come to understand that they are not as stupid as you make them out to be, therein lies part of the reason why Western currency are falling in value against the Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Counting down, court delivering ruling on whether all 5 charges constitute abuse of power by Thaksin Shinawatra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well for sure not everyone will understand every element of the Supreme Court findings but people are not stupid, they will understand parts of it and they will get the flavour. The village people can't understand why the government is entitled to Thaksin's money. They have no idea what is really going on here...totally brainwashed. It is an uphill battle to try and educate them. A bit like trying to get a Met's fan to say the Yankees are a good ball team! How patronising. And foolish to boot as well. spongeman I suggest you research "Abraham Maslow's pyramid" and you might understand where the people from the small villages are coming from. No one ever gave their village one million baht to spend as the village head saw fit. No one ever started a hospital insurance plan that only cost the patient 30 baht. Thaksin knew how to win over the "village people". They don't care about all the details. Those of us here, and you included, know how those plans failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well for sure not everyone will understand every element of the Supreme Court findings but people are not stupid, they will understand parts of it and they will get the flavour. The village people can't understand why the government is entitled to Thaksin's money. They have no idea what is really going on here...totally brainwashed. It is an uphill battle to try and educate them. A bit like trying to get a Met's fan to say the Yankees are a good ball team! How patronising. And foolish to boot as well. I LOVE the village...go there quite often. But they all wear red.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well for sure not everyone will understand every element of the Supreme Court findings but people are not stupid, they will understand parts of it and they will get the flavour. The village people can't understand why the government is entitled to Thaksin's money. They have no idea what is really going on here...totally brainwashed. It is an uphill battle to try and educate them. A bit like trying to get a Met's fan to say the Yankees are a good ball team! How patronising. And foolish to boot as well. Not really. The reality was that TRT was built on the basis of reinforcing the existing 'infrastructure'. These individuals have worked hard to ensure that whatever happens it's not their fault, and most relevantly that the good [allegedly] was based on the actions of the TRT+their stewardship whereas the bad was clearly 'those dubious characters in Bangkok'. Ultimately if you keep saying something, even if it is untrue [but tricky to disprove, witness the complexities here in the analysis and judgment] it can become perceived as valid. This is not a criticism of 'village people' but a searing indictment of the way in which so called realpolitik is manipulated here.Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thaksin verdict: The climax is near... Very gloomy so far for Thaksin -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 If you spend a little more time in the villages and towns with such folks, you will come to understand that they are not as stupid as you make them out to be, therein lies part of the reason why Western currency are falling in value against the Baht. Ummmm Western currency vs the Thai baht is a different thread ---- and the villagers don't have anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongeman Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Well done to ThaiVisa on this excellent coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymboy33 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey state By an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey stateBy an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far Is it possible this is where a fine for abuse of office will come in and take away part or all of his assets to pay off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey stateBy an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far the extent ------ how much the guy REALLY has is unclear (one possible way to read that -- doesn't mean they can't rule on what they DO know about.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrakers Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey stateBy an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far They know he is guilty, but not sure just how much he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 The court says Thaksin clearly used his power in the excise tax case and the EXIM bank loan case. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshbags Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thaksin verdict: The climax is near... Very gloomy so far for Thaksin-- The Nation He may well need a change of trousers / underpants after this... Right, who,s next up for trial / corruption.......there are so many awaiting the pleasure marshbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrakers Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The court says Thaksin clearly used his power in the excise tax case and the EXIM bank loan case.-- The Nation Used or abused, that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey stateBy an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far I believe the court is ruling on, and trying to quantify monetarily, the damage to the state by Thaksin's abuse of power. They do not claim to know how much he personally benefitted from that abuse. That doesn't mean he isn't responsible for the treasuries losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 how can ttey stateBy an unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the prosecution against former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatrat is unclear on the extent of unusual wealth and how it is linked to abuse of office. and then give guilty verdicts for everything????so far the extent ------ how much the guy REALLY has is unclear (one possible way to read that -- doesn't mean they can't rule on what they DO know about.) Everything is just translated on the fly.....so possible that something is not 100 % the same as they told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thaksin was in his active "overseeing role" in the mobile phone prepaid case, roaming service case, and satellite case, the court says. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 And yet all the three cases involved requests initiated by Shin Corp, the court says. -- The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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