webfact Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Court approves arrest warrant for UDD core leader Arisman for inciting public to overthrow government -- TNA 2010-03-13 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] ____________________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT INFO FOR FOREIGNERS LIVING IN THAILAND As an expat you are advised to follow the developing news for your security! Follow the Breaking News updates via Thaivisa: - Breaking News via SMS text messages to your mobile phone or handheld device To subscribe dial *424010011 on AIS, One-2-Call, DTAC or True Move networks 14 days complementary subscription for Thaivisa members. If you have questions about the Breaking News SMS service, email [email protected] OR follow us: - Via Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/farang - Via Twitter: http://twitter.com/georgebkk ____________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHM Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Took a while to get round to it. Timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is. A couple of minutes checking this webboard and some googling would provide you with enough information see why the words being used are 'inciting the public to overthrow the government'. - He has on numerous occasions threatened to kill ahbisit and others. - He was the leader of the gang of thugs that smashed into the official car that he thought Abhisit was in at the Royal Cliff in Pattaya, in front of regional leaders and the regional press. - And he was the leader of the gang of thugs who pulled Abhisits driver out of the car and severely beat him up. Nice guy? Fair and balanced? Would you want him in a position of power, responsible to formulate national policy at a ministerial level? That's what is very likely if the government is forced to step down or the PT / UDD win (read buy) an election in the near future. Another point: - Suddenly the red shirt rally is all about demaning elections. - Last month they were the champions of democracy. - The month before that they were demanding a pardon for their massively corrupt leader who should be before the world courts for massive crimes against humanity. Wonder what their war cry will be next month? any ideas? Edited March 13, 2010 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Court issues arrest warrant against Arisaman BANGKOK: -- The CriminalCourt Saturday approved an arrest warrant against Arisaman Pongruangrong, a red-shirt leader, for having allegedly inciting unrest. The Central Investigation Bureau sought the warrant Friday and the court approved it Saturday. Arisaman was charged with inciting riots at government offices and houses of important figures when he spoke to the red-shirt people at a rally in Khon Kaen on 31 January. -- The Nation 2010-03-13 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 No apology. If asking for elections is overthrowing the government, that is. Asking for new elections and sedition are not the same thing. I think most people know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Update: ASTV: Arisman shows up at Pan Fah stage; discusses with DAAD leaders after warrant for his arrest was issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 He most certainly abrogated the terms of his bail for Songkran. He already did that earlier beating one of his own PTP regional leaders on TV, but there is an other worldly tolerance for utter idiots here, that I have never been able to understand. And it can be the only reason this nutter has been left on the streets till now. About time they reeled him in for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Update:ASTV: Arisman shows up at Pan Fah stage; discusses with DAAD leaders after warrant for his arrest was issued I wonder how the crowd and leaders will take this? If it's true democracy they want, let him go and face his arrest. If it's pseudo-brand democracy, make him a martyr, let the crowds go wild and let the leaders talk in their rabid tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Whether or not he should be arrested is of less concern than the timing of the arrest. This is really not the best time to arrest him. Last week would have been good, next week might work well to. Right now, it will likely only fuel the fires of discontent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2muchcoffee Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) Whether or not he should be arrested is of less concern than the timing of the arrest. This is really not the best time to arrest him. Last week would have been good, next week might work well to. Right now, it will likely only fuel the fires of discontent. That's a fair point. But it is also fair to suggest that allowing him to remain and further incite violence over the next day or two is equally irresponsible. Edited March 13, 2010 by way2muchcoffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 MCOT: UDD leader Arisman takes Red Shirt stage at Phan Fah bridge, says arrest warrant is unfair, will protest before surrendering April 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymboy33 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 it was probaly for threatening to throw lb smelly stuff on prem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 MCOT: UDD leader Arisman takes Red Shirt stage at Phan Fah bridge, says arrest warrant is unfair, will protest before surrendering April 1 I can only hope Abhisit survives this. This is the type of nonsense that needs to stop. I'll surrender when I feel like it sort of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManilaLover Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Find this government stil very very mild for the reds, in China and most other third world countries they would have different solutions for such elements and they would have no chance. So far not bad how they just let this pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManilaLover Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it? A matter if balance Only the army rules here, reds will have no chance 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 ^^ Far too soft. Clearly a danger to society and allowed to roam free even with a warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Somebody has got to rule, unless you think an endless cycle of government overthrows by the rule of angry mobs will help Thailand move forward. Kudos for the arrest warrant. Long overdue but I understand Abhisit is trying to show reasonable restraint. He sure has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 MCOT: UDD leader Arisman takes Red Shirt stage at Phan Fah bridge, says arrest warrant is unfair, will protest before surrendering April 1 I can only hope Abhisit survives this. This is the type of nonsense that needs to stop. I'll surrender when I feel like it sort of attitude. At least he has said he will surrender ... more than one of his pals can say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAERTH Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The Bangkok Post reports Arisuman has been arrested W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it? Two things, the PAD arrest warrants have already been done, and served, and answered in court. You seem to have missed that. And now they are ALL waiting on the trial to get underway, when there is room on the docket. Secondly PAD never advocated burning Bangkok to the ground in a sea of fire. They advocated PPP resigning, but never advocated chaos and destruction. Duty free at Suvarnabuhmi was virtually untouched after the take over. Minimal violence and never violence on a grand scale advocated like Arisman has done reapeatedly this week. Two totally different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 should have happened earlier for sre, I assume they had someone taping Arisman in January. The simple fact is if they send in only 2 respected senior policemen to make the arrest, that Arisman will look like the thug he is if he resists or allows the crowd to prevent his lawful arrest. The reds realy cannot afford to be seen that way at this point in time. Their limited credibility will drop to zero if he doesn't go peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeeuk Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Red shirt leader Arisman 'arrested' Published: 13/03/2010 at 08:27 PM Online news: Breakingnews Police obtained a warrant on Saturday to arrest a key red shirt leader on charges of inciting violence. Unconfirmed reports said Arisman Pongruangrong was arrested Saturday afternoon and held at an undisclosed police station. Mr Arisman had called earlier this week for every shirt follower to carry a bottle of petrol and set fires if the government tried to block their protest. He still faces charges from last April's red shirt-inspired violence at Pattaya, where he was among a huge crowd that charged the hall of the Asean summit, and from the Songkran riots in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaikahuna Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Everyone wants their rights but it seems that none are willing to accept responsibility for the actions they take to try and achieve them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Wonder if those of you reading this have seen the YouTube video clip where Arisman allegedly talks about people filling bottles with petrol, and the turning of Bangkok into a "sea of fire: ? Thai text and translation can be found on Bangkok Pundit's blog, page 2 on asiancorrespondent.com. YouTube hint : v=3hNCH7UVeYU between minute 5 and minute 6 are the "incendiary" remarks according to BP. Definitely a candidate for lock-up: and why did they let Seh Daeng out on bail at this time ? Timing ? What timing ? ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodilexp Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Why is there an arrest warrant for Arisman for suggesting to overthrow the government but no arrest warrant 2 years after the yellow shirts did the same thing? And also no arrest warrants for the coup leaders that did actually overthrow the government, not just talk about it? Rhetorical question. Everyone and their dog knows that when it succeeds, it's not treason. Not just in Thailand, but anywhere, throughout history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibkk Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 what are you all FARANGS concerned about this bull shiiiez... we are not Thai just stay inside if you must till it blows over they don't care about us ... (Michael Jackson's song...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 According to the Bangkok Post website, Arisman was already arrested this afternoon. While according to reports on television, he's speaking at the bridge right now. Maybe he's got an evil twin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 According to the Bangkok Post website, Arisman was already arrested this afternoon. While according to reports on television, he's speaking at the bridge right now. Maybe he's got an evil twin? No, it said there were unconfirmed reports. Not quite the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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