Thai Authorities Shut Down Red-Shirts Protesters Tv Station

[bangkokrick]

Nuttawut was mocking Abhisit earlier for looking like he was about to cry when he was sat with Suthep, Pravit and Anupong last night.

Cuts both ways.

Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra phoned in to thank his red shirt supporters last night.

He said he was so overwhelmed by what the red shirts had done he wanted to cry. Before signing off, he said he hoped to see democracy and justice returned to the country in a few days.

Cheers, Rick

[chantorn]

Nuttawut was mocking Abhisit earlier for looking like he was about to cry when he was sat with Suthep, Pravit and Anupong last night.

Confirm I saw the same. However, I think his red eye was cause by lack of sleep, rather than wanting to cry.

[lannarebirth]

They should try and get Carabao to come...

They should and why haven't they. He and others in his group have strong com/socialist sympathies. His "life music" is about this very demographic for the most part. He's not shy about appearing at lots of other causes, some of which are controversial. So, why not on the Red stage? Probably because he hates Thaksin and has written a few songs mocking him.

Edited April 10, 2010 by lannarebirth

[Sunderland]

Nuttawut was mocking Abhisit earlier for looking like he was about to cry when he was sat with Suthep, Pravit and Anupong last night.

Confirm I saw the same. However, I think his red eye was cause by lack of sleep, rather than wanting to cry.

I would agree. Nuttawut said it, but I think it was more mocking than truly believing it.

I would have thought that Abhisit was extremely knackered and with good reason.

[chantorn]

I think the army wants the red to regroup at ThaiCom, so that they can take PanFa & Central World in the afternoon.

They try the same yesterday, however the army at Thai Com failed first, shutting down the Bangkok operations.

This is just my view. There is a Thai syaing "Trick the tiger out of the cave (for easy capture)"

Edited April 10, 2010 by chantorn

[Insight]

Nuttawut was mocking Abhisit earlier for looking like he was about to cry when he was sat with Suthep, Pravit and Anupong last night.

Confirm I saw the same. However, I think his red eye was cause by lack of sleep, rather than wanting to cry.

I would agree. Nuttawut said it, but I think it was more mocking than truly believing it.

I would have thought that Abhisit was extremely knackered and with good reason.

Personally think Abhisit's conduct has been inspiring. If the red shirt leaders are representative of the status quo of Thai leaders, Abhisit is clearly well ahead of his time.

The same cannot be said for his team however (read - Suthep).

[Jerrytheyoung]

Probably not the same troops at THAI COM....

[Sisaketmike]

Btw one English teacher won't be getting his work permit renewed.

i have my own online teaching school also, so don't worry about my future income, wellbeing!!!!!! also have low level rental properties in uk etc etc. get my drift?

Yes, you're a bad teacher and a slumlord

Nobody wanted to know about what you’d like to have. Online teaching school, if you speak how you write, somebody else must do that for you, right? And thanks to let all know that you’ve got “low level rental properties” in the UK. I wish you’d have more brain to understand others. But you’re so selfish because you’ve got nothing, right? Got my drift?

[cdnvic]

I don't know, or care what kind of silly argument is going on between you guys but put it to rest and return to the subject. No more of this.

[way2muchcoffee]

If the redshirts really wanted a peaceful resolution and were truly non-violent they could do several things.

1) They could regroup legally and peacefully at Pan Fah.

2) They could go back to the negotiating table, this time with a bit of sincerity.

3) They could stop trying to provoke the government into acting with violence.

4) They could clean up the rhetoric coming from their stages.

5) They could pack up and go home.

None of these very reasonable actions will occur though, because they are all about misinformation, violence, criminal behavior, and ultimatums. If they continue with their seditious and illegal actions they will get hurt eventually, and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Edited April 10, 2010 by way2muchcoffee

[hanuman1]

Probably not the same troops at THAI COM....

Why is it that the only two options during security services vs protester faceoffs seem to be:

1) Embarrassing climbdown by the security services

2) A bloodbath

Is there no in-between option?

Surely crowd control is more the domain of the police than the army, but in any case it seems neither has a clue about how to implement it. Look at G7 meetings all over the world. Loads of protesters, loads of police. There are usually injuries, but very few - if any - participants end up dead.

[jdinasia]

Nuttawut was mocking Abhisit earlier for looking like he was about to cry when he was sat with Suthep, Pravit and Anupong last night.

Confirm I saw the same. However, I think his red eye was cause by lack of sleep, rather than wanting to cry.

I would agree. Nuttawut said it, but I think it was more mocking than truly believing it.

I would have thought that Abhisit was extremely knackered and with good reason.

Personally think Abhisit's conduct has been inspiring. If the red shirt leaders are representative of the status quo of Thai leaders, Abhisit is clearly well ahead of his time.

The same cannot be said for his team however (read - Suthep).

I agree with you, Insight

[Jerrytheyoung]

Probably not the same troops at THAI COM....

Why is it that the only two options during security services vs protester faceoffs seem to be:

1) Embarrassing climbdown by the security services

2) A bloodbath

Is there no in-between option?

Surely crowd control is more the domain of the police than the army, but in any case it seems neither has a clue about how to implement it. Look at G7 meetings all over the world. Loads of protesters, loads of police. There are usually injuries, but very few - if any - participants end up dead.

no there are some other options like other important objectives by Red Shirts, Why to go in the trap?

[hanuman1]

Probably not the same troops at THAI COM....

Why is it that the only two options during security services vs protester faceoffs seem to be:

1) Embarrassing climbdown by the security services

2) A bloodbath

Is there no in-between option?

Surely crowd control is more the domain of the police than the army, but in any case it seems neither has a clue about how to implement it. Look at G7 meetings all over the world. Loads of protesters, loads of police. There are usually injuries, but very few - if any - participants end up dead.

no there are some other options like other important objectives by Red Shirts, Why to go in the trap?

Sorry, I'm a bit slow this morning - could you describe this 'trap'? Thanks.

[Jerrytheyoung]

Probably not the same troops at THAI COM....

Why is it that the only two options during security services vs protester faceoffs seem to be:

1) Embarrassing climbdown by the security services

2) A bloodbath

Is there no in-between option?

Surely crowd control is more the domain of the police than the army, but in any case it seems neither has a clue about how to implement it. Look at G7 meetings all over the world. Loads of protesters, loads of police. There are usually injuries, but very few - if any - participants end up dead.

no there are some other options like other important objectives by Red Shirts, Why to go in the trap?

Sorry, I'm a bit slow this morning - could you describe this 'trap'? Thanks.

Government and Forces' headquarter must have studied why the forces have cracked yesterday and have surely prepared their revenge. Also the crackdown in Central World may be better prepared. You must never underestimate your adversary: they have learnt from yesterday.... This is the meaning of "trap".

[Sisaketmike]

jucel

Little man go away and try to tell the truth your espousal of views yet again clearly demonstrates your Walter Mitty like existence.

Go and play with the neo Communist Red Shirt Brigade who will indeed hail you as the champion of the working class prior to consigning you to the same fate as the victims of Pol Pots regime

wow yet another imbecile in เมืองไทย!!! Have you spent the time to learn the language the culture, like i have?? Have you spent the money taking various courses english/thai to enable me to teach and converse??? I dont think so little man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you please show your web link that others do have the chance to learn a proper English and Thai please? I guess you’ll be rich soon. Here’s your Chopper, take it easy it’s too hot for headaches. Jay Jenn na…….

Edited April 10, 2010 by Sisaketmike

[WAERTH]

They should try and get Carabao to come...

They should and why haven't they. He and others in his group have strong com/socialist sympathies. His "life music" is about this very demographic for the most part. He's not shy about appearing at lots of other causes, some of which are controversial. So, why not on the Red stage? Probably because he hates Thaksin and has written a few songs mocking him.

I am playing comedy myself and have met many artists int he past 6 years that I am doing this.

It is kinda accepted amongst comedians/singers/bands that it would be commercial suicide to publicly take sides with the red shirts. Even when a number of them support the red shirts, they wouldn't go there to perform. My boss gets calls almost every single day and gets offered 3-4 times the normal going rates to perform there. But he simply refuses. I think you will find that most groups/singers/bands will refuse any offer to perform there. Off course there will be exceptions and some will fall for the money, but those are usually not the top tier ones with a countrywide following. But more the groups/singers/bands whom are only popular in certain areas.

[Sunderland]

I am watching People Channel now online. However, it's showing a studio with 2 newscasters. The sign behind them says 'Spring News'.

[Sunderland]

Looks like the People Channel is up and running but has been taken over and showing something completely non-red now ... Spring News!

Anyone ever heard of Spring News?

ข่าวช่องไหน (new channel) according to one person posting in the window to the left of the screen.

Not sure if it's a pro-government, anti-government or completely neutral channel. Not up to the standards of TNN24 ... but they've only been up and running for about an hour if that.

Their website is the same as the name of the TV station, ie. Spring News TV but without breaks in between words and followed by the usual dot see oh em.

Edited April 10, 2010 by Sunderland

[hanuman1]

They should try and get Carabao to come...

They should and why haven't they. He and others in his group have strong com/socialist sympathies. His "life music" is about this very demographic for the most part. He's not shy about appearing at lots of other causes, some of which are controversial. So, why not on the Red stage? Probably because he hates Thaksin and has written a few songs mocking him.

I am playing comedy myself and have met many artists int he past 6 years that I am doing this.

It is kinda accepted amongst comedians/singers/bands that it would be commercial suicide to publicly take sides with the red shirts. Even when a number of them support the red shirts, they wouldn't go there to perform. My boss gets calls almost every single day and gets offered 3-4 times the normal going rates to perform there. But he simply refuses. I think you will find that most groups/singers/bands will refuse any offer to perform there. Off course there will be exceptions and some will fall for the money, but those are usually not the top tier ones with a countrywide following. But more the groups/singers/bands whom are only popular in certain areas.

Hang on - first you say it's commercial suicide to play at a red gig, then you say some acts 'fall for the money' and play them for a short term financial gain. Sounds to me like it is the ones who are scared of 'commercial suicide' who are 'falling for the money'. Anyway, I'm not suggesting that artists should become polarized over this, but if they have outspoken social views when there's peace in the land I don't see why they should keep quiet at the very moment their voices need to be heard the most, regardless of which side they are on.

That's if they're sincere, of course.

[jdinasia]

I am watching People Channel now online. However, it's showing a studio with 2 newscasters. The sign behind them says 'Spring News'.

Is that in fact, People TV?

[lannarebirth]

They should try and get Carabao to come...

They should and why haven't they. He and others in his group have strong com/socialist sympathies. His "life music" is about this very demographic for the most part. He's not shy about appearing at lots of other causes, some of which are controversial. So, why not on the Red stage? Probably because he hates Thaksin and has written a few songs mocking him.

I am playing comedy myself and have met many artists int he past 6 years that I am doing this.

It is kinda accepted amongst comedians/singers/bands that it would be commercial suicide to publicly take sides with the red shirts. Even when a number of them support the red shirts, they wouldn't go there to perform. My boss gets calls almost every single day and gets offered 3-4 times the normal going rates to perform there. But he simply refuses. I think you will find that most groups/singers/bands will refuse any offer to perform there. Off course there will be exceptions and some will fall for the money, but those are usually not the top tier ones with a countrywide following. But more the groups/singers/bands whom are only popular in certain areas.

Hang on - first you say it's commercial suicide to play at a red gig, then you say some acts 'fall for the money' and play them for a short term financial gain. Sounds to me like it is the ones who are scared of 'commercial suicide' who are 'falling for the money'. Anyway, I'm not suggesting that artists should become polarized over this, but if they have outspoken social views when there's peace in the land I don't see why they should keep quiet at the very moment their voices need to be heard the most, regardless of which side they are on.

That's if they're sincere, of course.

Artists have no obligation whatsoever to speak out. Their art does their speaking for them. In the case of Carabao, who was mentioned earlier, they have a strong sensibility toward the rural poor in their music. Many songs are pro democratic and they have appeared at pro democracy ralllies. They've written several songs mocking Thaksin however as he really doesn't have anything to do with the aforementioned ideals.

[elcent]

At 5:40 pm, protesters were confronting troops at the Pin Klao Bridge when hundreds of soldiers were deployed to close the bridge to prevent more protesters from joining their peers at the Phan Fa.

The Nation

What's that? Fortune telling.

[ChiangMaiThai]

Download anchor free or similar and watch rachaprasong live at uddthailand.com. For all these news updates that make it sound like the govt. is taking control, they red shirts are still on stage and there are still a good 70,000 people listening. Really want to see how they break up 70,000 people. Sounds like they just said that Chiang Mai red shirts have taken over something there. Sorry my thai is not perfect.

[TAWP]

Download anchor free or similar and watch rachaprasong live at uddthailand.com. For all these news updates that make it sound like the govt. is taking control, they red shirts are still on stage and there are still a good 70,000 people listening. Really want to see how they break up 70,000 people. Sounds like they just said that Chiang Mai red shirts have taken over something there. Sorry my thai is not perfect.

70 000? You might wanna check your numbers there, lol.

[Rinrada]

uddthailand.com just come back on

Can confirm bright and clear and presume all freedom loving Expat Thais tuned in around the World.....well at least wiffee and her mates are back on again.

Being JAMMED

UDD is still on the internet but looks like someone is JAMMING...sods

Couple of calls from Thai friends here in te smoke to check connections and confirm voice sound levels.....

So much the belief in the Freedom of Speech...figures....

[Jingthing]

The reds upset about the interference with their propaganda tv. OK, understandable. But today they kick out legitimate objective reporters from their stage. They don't like objective journalists? Just like their puppet master Thaksin who hated a free press, and was setting up a total dictatorship. Double standard? Of course, the reds love free speech but only their false Truth Today speech, other speech, shut up!

[grandpops]

The reds upset about the interference with their propaganda tv. OK, understandable. But today they kick out legitimate objective reporters from their stage. They don't like objective journalists? Just like their puppet master Thaksin who hated a free press, and was setting up a total dictatorship. Double standard? Of course, the reds love free speech but only their false Truth Today speech, other speech, shut up!

As you obvisouly don't watch or understand much Thai language TV, I'll explain.

The general media are giving the reds fair coverage!! Well, fairer than before and they are coming over well on all most stations.

At the end of the day, journalists have standards and don't want to be tarred for the rest of their careers as servants of the elite.

I only turn to PTV to see if it is actually broadcasting. We get out news from the other Thai Chanels so it was not worth the fight to turn it off. Nor come to that, is it that important to the cause now to have it turned back on. The general media in fair mode is much more useful.

Edited April 11, 2010 by grandpops

[CLOD]

In a word....censorship

[ChiangMaiFun]

The reds upset about the interference with their propaganda tv. OK, understandable. But today they kick out legitimate objective reporters from their stage. They don't like objective journalists? Just like their puppet master Thaksin who hated a free press, and was setting up a total dictatorship. Double standard? Of course, the reds love free speech but only their false Truth Today speech, other speech, shut up!

The point is they shut down the one place they could let off steam - and what happened? It was a serious error of yellow judgment - one of many with terrible consequences – now no matter what this undemocratic government offer in the way of an early election may not be enough – the reds don’t trust a word they say (and who can blame them?).

Censorship – in any wicked guise is still censorship!