Why Nirvana (nibbana)?

[camerata]

Sure, it's proper Vinaya to tell others that the 4 truths are the fundamental core of Buddhism, but most Zen authorities would find that comical, and there's a reason they burned the Vinaya and other texts to keep the monastery warm one night.

I suggest you read Zen at War and you'll realize what happens when monks ignore the basic principles the Buddha taught.

[phetaroi]

Well, why would that bother you? If you read Ajahn Jagaro's essay Am I a Buddhist? you'll see that the Buddha defined a disciple (i.e. a "Buddhist") as one who takes refuge in the Triple Gem. But it's a volitional choice. No one can make you a Buddhist or stop you being a Buddhist.

That's a very good article and I truly appreciate you pointing it out. I have saved a copy of it.

[rockyysdt]

There are are far too many "I believe" &/or "I don't believe"'s.

I personally feel at the end of the day that our personal experiences are far more important.

Discussing & debating will continue to interest, but in terms of Buddhism, without practice it's all academic.

The most important thing to do is to practice continual mindfulness, daily single pointed concentration, physical exercise, a sensible diet & live an ethical life.

Over time, if Buddhism has any truth, insights will start to seep into your awareness & lead you in the right direction.

[phetaroi]

There are are far too many "I believe" &/or "I don't believe"'s.

I personally feel at the end of the day that our personal experiences are far more important.

Discussing & debating will continue to interest, but in terms of Buddhism, without practice it's all academic.

The most important thing to do is to practice continual mindfulness, daily single pointed concentration, physical exercise, a sensible diet & live an ethical life.

Over time, if Buddhism has any truth, insights will start to seep into your awareness & lead you in the right direction.

Is that what you believe?

[rockyysdt]

Is that what you believe?

Is "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" appropriate here?