Bird Nest Farming

[h90]

huuwi: I bought some from Austria: 1 small one for 18 Euro and 4 mist maker.....

Yes I am from Austria.

From me as well in one big rush 10 birds came, than it stopped. I got told it is the young one. They older don't change place easily, or at least not until you make them very upset (taking their nest when they want to lay eggs inside for example).

What is the Fatherland? There are nice fake plastic nests from Eka in Jakarta. They are also very cheap. BUT they don't answer emails. If you pay the double triple price here it is still cheaper than flying there. My birds, also young one like to sit on it even if they don't breed.

rangnok: I am interested in you check my sound system once, but I am pretty sure this weekend I can't fly down. So some time later

[RedBullHorn]

Hi all, this is interesting....didn't expect to find this in TV...

I have always been interested in swiftlet farming, then i check them websites, the BH ranged from RM 150'000 to RM 250'000 to build , did some more research, found out that failure rate is high too , BUT i'm still very interested as it's the ultimate farming with very big returns.

Being an Asian, i know how expensive bird nests are and my mom always gift them to high level friends and my dad consume bird nest soup regularly like drinking plain water ( he's 65 yrs old but looks under 50' with a golfer's handicap of 7 )

Most TV farming member knows that i do piggeries and catfish farming, every now and then i see them swiftlets flying all over my ponds hunting insects, not 3 or 5 swiftlets but between 80 to 150 of them so i thought how can this be ? Because i live in the northern region, Chiang Rai ! Way off the range of swiftlets population. For the past 4 years, i've been harbouring the thought of farming them for the white gold dream...

(Aerodramus Fuciphagus Distribution)

Rangnok...one question.

Those switflets i see everyday at my ponds, they have white belly, infact all white under body from throat to belly, are they the Superior 金丝燕 or the other species 土燕... they have strong legs as they would cling to my electricity cables so i suspect them to be the non salivate type of swiftlets 土燕 ..... It's quite a sight when i see about 50-60 of them clinging on the cables like sparrow while the rest flies about, if the wind is too strong, they will rest on the ground, in big number like 50-60 of them. I understand that 金丝燕 have weaker legs so it would cling vertically, but the swiftlets i been seeing don't cling vertically but like normal bird resting on a branch or wires very much to the description of 土燕.

I learn this from this video clip, it was mentioned at 3:49 (Can you confirm this. Thank you !)

Edited July 21, 2011 by RedBullHorn

[h90]

Hi all, this is interesting....didn't expect to find this in TV...

I have always been interested in swiftlet farming, then i check them websites, the BH ranged from RM 150'000 to RM 250'000 to build , did some more research, found out that failure rate is high too , BUT i'm still very interested as it's the ultimate farming with very big returns.

Being an Asian, i know how expensive bird nests are and my mom always gift them to high level friends and my dad consume bird nest soup regularly like drinking plain water ( he's 65 yrs old but looks under 50' with a golfer's handicap of 7 )

Most TV farming member knows that i do piggeries and catfish farming, every now and then i see them swiftlets flying all over my ponds hunting insects, not 3 or 5 swiftlets but between 80 to 150 of them so i thought how can this be ? Because i live in the northern region, Chiang Rai ! Way off the range of swiftlets population. For the past 4 years, i've been harbouring the thought of farming them for the white gold dream...

(Aerodramus Fuciphagus Distribution)

Rangnok...one question.

Those switflets i see everyday at my ponds, they have white belly, infact all white under body from throat to belly, are they the Superior 金丝燕 or the other species 土燕... they have strong legs as they would cling to my electricity cables so i suspect them to be the non salivate type of swiftlets 土燕 ..... It's quite a sight when i see about 50-60 of them clinging on the cables like sparrow while the rest flies about, if the wind is too strong, they will rest on the ground, in big number like 50-60 of them. I understand that 金丝燕 have weaker legs so it would cling vertically, but the swiftlets i been seeing don't cling vertically but like normal bird resting on a branch or wires very much to the description of 土燕.

I learn this from this video clip, it was mentioned at 3:49 (Can you confirm this. Thank you !)

First: i got told that the swiftlets are also much more north than on you diagram.

If they sit on the cables they are the wrong birds. But that does not mean that there isn't a mixed population.

One good hint is if you hear the sonar. if they are near you can hear tik tik tik....if they sit on cables and you can't hear it....forget it.

If not get some good sound (or a specialist) with a speaker. If you play the outside sound you quickly see if that are the right birds...

Or you simply buy my bird house :-))

[huuwi]

Hi huuwi,

i'm malaysian had been doing construction business almost 9yrs and bird nest farming & wholesale almost 6yrs. Bird in quick probably due to NEW design (sound or design), the 10 and 15 is probably from one group/colony. if its stop, then most likely u have to modify again. anyway, u try to wait after august, because now still breeding season. by next month should have many young birds. Hopefully, u can pull most of them. fungus and temperature, shouldn't be a problem for solving. additional roofing is simpliest way. make sure also you brickwall not heat adsorption. therefore, many do double layer of brickwall to avoid heat from wall too. yes, the white form or u can even buy the fake(plastic) nest to cheat the bird.

i'm going down to southen this weekend, start from fri and probably finish on monday. Sound system and setting of speaker is very important too.

Hi Rangnok,

that is what i thought, young or homeless birds.

oh now the house holds about 70-100 birds, but from listening to other succesfull BHF they say you should have more birds in very quickly.

that is what gets me nervous.

sound system is perfect to what i see by cctv.

at the moment when i observ the BH i can see birds just flying and it looks like they do radar messuring the entrance for a while, then enter and do the same with the roofing tower before they go in for a quick dive and then out again.

many more question.

huuwi

[huuwi]

huuwi: I bought some from Austria: 1 small one for 18 Euro and 4 mist maker.....

Yes I am from Austria.

From me as well in one big rush 10 birds came, than it stopped. I got told it is the young one. They older don't change place easily, or at least not until you make them very upset (taking their nest when they want to lay eggs inside for example).

What is the Fatherland? There are nice fake plastic nests from Eka in Jakarta. They are also very cheap. BUT they don't answer emails. If you pay the double triple price here it is still cheaper than flying there. My birds, also young one like to sit on it even if they don't breed.

rangnok: I am interested in you check my sound system once, but I am pretty sure this weekend I can't fly down. So some time later

mmhhh history

aber das ist ja egal, nachbar aus dem bergischen

ok, back to the forum what was 18 euro, a speaker?

this form cost nothing and they do glue there nest on easy.

this little tweetys realy like the musik, can see them sticking on the satelite, on the tweeters and inside the house most of the nest start at the speakers in the corner where i mounted them.

huuwi

[huuwi]

Hi huuwi,

i'm malaysian had been doing construction business almost 9yrs and bird nest farming & wholesale almost 6yrs. Bird in quick probably due to NEW design (sound or design), the 10 and 15 is probably from one group/colony. if its stop, then most likely u have to modify again. anyway, u try to wait after august, because now still breeding season. by next month should have many young birds. Hopefully, u can pull most of them. fungus and temperature, shouldn't be a problem for solving. additional roofing is simpliest way. make sure also you brickwall not heat adsorption. therefore, many do double layer of brickwall to avoid heat from wall too. yes, the white form or u can even buy the fake(plastic) nest to cheat the bird.

i'm going down to southen this weekend, start from fri and probably finish on monday. Sound system and setting of speaker is very important too.

forgot,

been quiet a bit in ipoh

huuwi

[RedBullHorn]

Hi all, this is interesting....didn't expect to find this in TV...

I have always been interested in swiftlet farming, then i check them websites, the BH ranged from RM 150'000 to RM 250'000 to build , did some more research, found out that failure rate is high too , BUT i'm still very interested as it's the ultimate farming with very big returns.

Being an Asian, i know how expensive bird nests are and my mom always gift them to high level friends and my dad consume bird nest soup regularly like drinking plain water ( he's 65 yrs old but looks under 50' with a golfer's handicap of 7 )

Most TV farming member knows that i do piggeries and catfish farming, every now and then i see them swiftlets flying all over my ponds hunting insects, not 3 or 5 swiftlets but between 80 to 150 of them so i thought how can this be ? Because i live in the northern region, Chiang Rai ! Way off the range of swiftlets population. For the past 4 years, i've been harbouring the thought of farming them for the white gold dream...

(Aerodramus Fuciphagus Distribution)

Rangnok...one question.

Those switflets i see everyday at my ponds, they have white belly, infact all white under body from throat to belly, are they the Superior 金丝燕 or the other species 土燕... they have strong legs as they would cling to my electricity cables so i suspect them to be the non salivate type of swiftlets 土燕 ..... It's quite a sight when i see about 50-60 of them clinging on the cables like sparrow while the rest flies about, if the wind is too strong, they will rest on the ground, in big number like 50-60 of them. I understand that 金丝燕 have weaker legs so it would cling vertically, but the swiftlets i been seeing don't cling vertically but like normal bird resting on a branch or wires very much to the description of 土燕.

I learn this from this video clip, it was mentioned at 3:49 (Can you confirm this. Thank you !)

First: i got told that the swiftlets are also much more north than on you diagram.

If they sit on the cables they are the wrong birds. But that does not mean that there isn't a mixed population.

One good hint is if you hear the sonar. if they are near you can hear tik tik tik....if they sit on cables and you can't hear it....forget it.

If not get some good sound (or a specialist) with a speaker. If you play the outside sound you quickly see if that are the right birds...

Or you simply buy my bird house :-))

I knew that too...either the bird nests or the bird house !

"Get about 100-150 swiftlets into the house and then quicky sell the property !!!" What a great way to spin !

My dream... crashed ! Haiz*~

Oh well, back to the 200 pigs and 180'000 catfishes then... ( just a miserable ฿ 900'000 combined income per year )

Edited July 21, 2011 by RedBullHorn

[huuwi]

Hi all, this is interesting....didn't expect to find this in TV...

I have always been interested in swiftlet farming, then i check them websites, the BH ranged from RM 150'000 to RM 250'000 to build , did some more research, found out that failure rate is high too , BUT i'm still very interested as it's the ultimate farming with very big returns.

Being an Asian, i know how expensive bird nests are and my mom always gift them to high level friends and my dad consume bird nest soup regularly like drinking plain water ( he's 65 yrs old but looks under 50' with a golfer's handicap of 7 )

Most TV farming member knows that i do piggeries and catfish farming, every now and then i see them swiftlets flying all over my ponds hunting insects, not 3 or 5 swiftlets but between 80 to 150 of them so i thought how can this be ? Because i live in the northern region, Chiang Rai ! Way off the range of swiftlets population. For the past 4 years, i've been harbouring the thought of farming them for the white gold dream...

(Aerodramus Fuciphagus Distribution)

Rangnok...one question.

Those switflets i see everyday at my ponds, they have white belly, infact all white under body from throat to belly, are they the Superior 金丝燕 or the other species 土燕... they have strong legs as they would cling to my electricity cables so i suspect them to be the non salivate type of swiftlets 土燕 ..... It's quite a sight when i see about 50-60 of them clinging on the cables like sparrow while the rest flies about, if the wind is too strong, they will rest on the ground, in big number like 50-60 of them. I understand that 金丝燕 have weaker legs so it would cling vertically, but the swiftlets i been seeing don't cling vertically but like normal bird resting on a branch or wires very much to the description of 土燕.

I learn this from this video clip, it was mentioned at 3:49 (Can you confirm this. Thank you !)

First: i got told that the swiftlets are also much more north than on you diagram.

If they sit on the cables they are the wrong birds. But that does not mean that there isn't a mixed population.

One good hint is if you hear the sonar. if they are near you can hear tik tik tik....if they sit on cables and you can't hear it....forget it.

If not get some good sound (or a specialist) with a speaker. If you play the outside sound you quickly see if that are the right birds...

Or you simply buy my bird house :-))

I knew that too...either the bird nests or the bird house !

"Get about 100-150 swiftlets into the house and then quicky sell the property !!!" What a great way to spin !

My dream... crashed ! Haiz*~

Oh well, back to the 200 pigs and 180'000 catfishes then... ( just a miserable ฿ 900'000 combined income per year )

crashed,why

just try a sound check at your place, if the birds respond you are in the game.

depend on the land issue, you can build a small BH for much less as what you posted.

if you want start big, of course cost money, but if you start small with possibility to extend, give it a go,after sound check.

and yes the birds on the wire are a nono.

i call them twin propp, they have a split tail, our tweetys not.

huuwi

oh,btw 900.000.- a small bird in the hand is better then a big one under the roof

[RedBullHorn]

huuwi, you're the light in my tunnel, for a moment i thought i lost all hope in ever trying swiftlet farming ...

but then again, they're really sitting on the cables. Maybe i'll try the sound test like you said...

"oh,btw 900.000.- a small bird in the hand is better then a big one under the roof "

I agree too

But i will have to lean on it, at least that's the realistic figure at the moment.

[h90]

huuwi: I bought some from Austria: 1 small one for 18 Euro and 4 mist maker.....

Yes I am from Austria.

From me as well in one big rush 10 birds came, than it stopped. I got told it is the young one. They older don't change place easily, or at least not until you make them very upset (taking their nest when they want to lay eggs inside for example).

What is the Fatherland? There are nice fake plastic nests from Eka in Jakarta. They are also very cheap. BUT they don't answer emails. If you pay the double triple price here it is still cheaper than flying there. My birds, also young one like to sit on it even if they don't breed.

rangnok: I am interested in you check my sound system once, but I am pretty sure this weekend I can't fly down. So some time later

mmhhh history

aber das ist ja egal, nachbar aus dem bergischen

ok, back to the forum what was 18 euro, a speaker?

this form cost nothing and they do glue there nest on easy.

this little tweetys realy like the musik, can see them sticking on the satelite, on the tweeters and inside the house most of the nest start at the speakers in the corner where i mounted them.

huuwi

ahh....now I understand....Fatherland is used by many countries and I was sure you are Asian...so I couldn't figure it out.

So we could speak German if I keep it simple :-)))

18 Euro for a "Luftbefeuchter" Humidifier (spelling????), they are super cheap on Ebay. I want to drill 2 holes in it and pump water in it once a time (excess water goes out on the second hole) with a cheap pump 100-200 Baht.

Also bought some mist maker (19 Euro) for testing.

these fake nests: They like it, because they can sit on it without anything. I had a couple, that came in and immediately put an egg in one fake nest. (Exactly at the time when my neighbor had a money problem and most probably removed the nest of them).

[huuwi]

Hi huuwi,

i'm malaysian had been doing construction business almost 9yrs and bird nest farming & wholesale almost 6yrs. Bird in quick probably due to NEW design (sound or design), the 10 and 15 is probably from one group/colony. if its stop, then most likely u have to modify again. anyway, u try to wait after august, because now still breeding season. by next month should have many young birds. Hopefully, u can pull most of them. fungus and temperature, shouldn't be a problem for solving. additional roofing is simpliest way. make sure also you brickwall not heat adsorption. therefore, many do double layer of brickwall to avoid heat from wall too. yes, the white form or u can even buy the fake(plastic) nest to cheat the bird.

i'm going down to southen this weekend, start from fri and probably finish on monday. Sound system and setting of speaker is very important too.

here is one more,

as you said, wait until august, i know there are 3 havey breeding cycle, but when i check my BH i have inside right now

plenty of different stages.

from egg, nacked to almost ready to take of.

i guess, they dont care, better for us, all year round egg factory

so what is your input on this

huuwi

[rangnok]

Hi Redbullhorn,

Those bird standing on the wire is not the same type of swiftlet. Well, you may do a bird call test. If any bird response to the test, then pls count the total qty. Northen thailand, is much lesser population than southen. Furthermore, u have cold season, therefore, expected will loss 1 breeding cycle. if u want to buy BH (a good one with ready income monthly), pls let me know. 900,000baht, u may start to do some bird nest trading. get to feel the industry. smallest i encounter, 4m x 14m, u can try to work out the cost.

Hi Huuwi,

Is normal for new bird to check at the entrance or even went in quickly fly out. They need to check the suitability and also the safety. begining of next month, should have a lot of young birds, your BH should be expected to have more bird to stay, that's provided your design is right. More speaker more merrier. each nest worth easily 8000 baht (based on purchasing BH). therefore, speaker cost is nothing as compare to the nest.

Breeding cycle is 3 times a month in GENERAL or in fact this is the capacity of each couple of birds for getting pregnant. Reason why not all bird start at same season, because, some bird their nest had been harvested before they lay egg, so they have to find a empty (within the same BH or other BH) nest or quickly make a new one. Furthermore, not every bird MATE at the same day or night (perhaps), haha, some this week and some next week. Or some half way incubate or baby bird die (fall down from nest), so this will change timing again. Breeding season started or start count down from, AFTER the moonson season. year end normally, u will have strong wind and heavy rain & cold weather, this is the season that many baby bird die or they stop mating also due to food source very limited (heavy rain). After this season, immediately make nest.

Hi H90,

Fake nest is worth to try because 1st is very low cost and seocnd, u can capture those birds that need empty nest for laying eggs.

[huuwi]

Hi Redbullhorn,

Those bird standing on the wire is not the same type of swiftlet. Well, you may do a bird call test. If any bird response to the test, then pls count the total qty. Northen thailand, is much lesser population than southen. Furthermore, u have cold season, therefore, expected will loss 1 breeding cycle. if u want to buy BH (a good one with ready income monthly), pls let me know. 900,000baht, u may start to do some bird nest trading. get to feel the industry. smallest i encounter, 4m x 14m, u can try to work out the cost.

Hi Huuwi,

Is normal for new bird to check at the entrance or even went in quickly fly out. They need to check the suitability and also the safety. begining of next month, should have a lot of young birds, your BH should be expected to have more bird to stay, that's provided your design is right. More speaker more merrier. each nest worth easily 8000 baht (based on purchasing BH). therefore, speaker cost is nothing as compare to the nest.

Breeding cycle is 3 times a month in GENERAL or in fact this is the capacity of each couple of birds for getting pregnant. Reason why not all bird start at same season, because, some bird their nest had been harvested before they lay egg, so they have to find a empty (within the same BH or other BH) nest or quickly make a new one. Furthermore, not every bird MATE at the same day or night (perhaps), haha, some this week and some next week. Or some half way incubate or baby bird die (fall down from nest), so this will change timing again. Breeding season started or start count down from, AFTER the moonson season. year end normally, u will have strong wind and heavy rain & cold weather, this is the season that many baby bird die or they stop mating also due to food source very limited (heavy rain). After this season, immediately make nest.

Hi H90,

Fake nest is worth to try because 1st is very low cost and seocnd, u can capture those birds that need empty nest for laying eggs.

to redbull(horn), the team will win today, haha, i'm going to watch (sadly) on tv the F1 race in town and not life.

I agree with rangnok about the small house, but after building my one i would do it more long then 14m.

they like to fly this long stretch.

if you own the land where your pig and fish farm is i had no second thought (now) after i get respons from the sound test. if you can do a lot yourself you will be amazed how cheap you can build. i did with my brother in law and some friends from the village, 85% by hand (mix concret, carry briggs and so on).

only roof concret panel we needed a crane, rest man power.

i know, sounds like slavery, but it was worth it. the only thing if i do extension i buy a mixer, this almost kills me.

i'm to old for that shit

rangnok,

i almost run to the bh and harvest all nest (8000) per nest, but then i reread again .

this is how you sale the birdhouse, market price plus per nest uppss.

you are right, yesterday i payed more attention on the cctv and you can watch them doing there stuff

normal i only watch in the evening when they come back, but yesterday was a rainy day again and i spend some time to watch and it was quiet funny, falling of the planks like a rock and then fly up again.

to all, have a nice sunday

huuwi

[rangnok]

Correction to my previous statement typing error :

breeding cycle 3 times a year (NOT per month).

Hi Huuwi,

The less nest u have in the BH, value for nest is lower. example : if u have 5000nest, the bird nest value would be 6500baht/nest, reason is, if based on 8000 or 10,000baht nest, the amount is too high i.e. beyong market "willingness" to invest. The less nest u have, value for nest is higher. market price for Bh less than 2000nest, is between 8000 to 10,000baht/nest. of course, there are people want even higher i.e. 12,000baht/nest. those BH with 10,000nest, even sell at 5000baht/nest also noone want/interested or difficult to find buyer.

Investing in a good BH (ready income substantially monthly), is like putting your $$ into a bank for fixed deposit but this one is much higher interest 12% and above and furtermore, increase gradually year by year (monthly income & BH value), min. 30%. Operation cost is dam_n LOW and less attention required. definately can and more than enough to overcome inflation.

FOR INFOR ONLY;

Bh 1 for sale;

8m x 22m x 2storeys.

950 to 1050 nest : can harvest 2.5kg to 3.5kg/mth

building value (not yet include conversion cost to bird house) : 3MB

Conversion cost 1.2MB

Total sale : 11MB.

BH 2 for sale;

4m x 16m x 3storeys,

600 to 650nests

building value 1.2MB

comversion : 0.6MB

Total sale : 7.5MB

[huuwi]

Correction to my previous statement typing error :

breeding cycle 3 times a year (NOT per month).

Hi Huuwi,

The less nest u have in the BH, value for nest is lower. example : if u have 5000nest, the bird nest value would be 6500baht/nest, reason is, if based on 8000 or 10,000baht nest, the amount is too high i.e. beyong market "willingness" to invest. The less nest u have, value for nest is higher. market price for Bh less than 2000nest, is between 8000 to 10,000baht/nest. of course, there are people want even higher i.e. 12,000baht/nest. those BH with 10,000nest, even sell at 5000baht/nest also noone want/interested or difficult to find buyer.

Investing in a good BH (ready income substantially monthly), is like putting your $$ into a bank for fixed deposit but this one is much higher interest 12% and above and furtermore, increase gradually year by year (monthly income & BH value), min. 30%. Operation cost is dam_n LOW and less attention required. definately can and more than enough to overcome inflation.

FOR INFOR ONLY;

Bh 1 for sale;

8m x 22m x 2storeys.

950 to 1050 nest : can harvest 2.5kg to 3.5kg/mth

building value (not yet include conversion cost to bird house) : 3MB

Conversion cost 1.2MB

Total sale : 11MB.

BH 2 for sale;

4m x 16m x 3storeys,

600 to 650nests

building value 1.2MB

comversion : 0.6MB

Total sale : 7.5MB

rangnok,

where the bird house 1 and 2 located?

[RedBullHorn]

hey huuwi...i just checked ! all of them have twin propeller and sitting on the cable ...dam_n! #$%^#x!%*

There's about between 200-250 of them this morning....What a waste !

[rangnok]

Hi huuwi,

BH1 in songkhla province.

BH2 is about 100km from songkhla town (on the way Nakhon).

Actually another one BH 3,

4m x 18m x 3.5 floors x 3 building join together.

Less than 1yr farming, almost 80 to 100nests. (about 100km from songkhla town).

Total sale : 7MB

Redbullhorn,

is ok, don't give, keep searching for good location. Sure one day u'll find.

[huuwi]

hey huuwi...i just checked ! all of them have twin propeller and sitting on the cable ...dam_n! #$%^#x!%*

There's about between 200-250 of them this morning....What a waste !

yeah i know how you feel, i have the same when i go to the andaman islands in india, under some funny law it is not alowed to do bird nest farming, or they lie to me. there are swiftlets in the thousends in town and most of them are nesting under the jetty, like to see it one time, but the problem is there are crocks too

best protection i guess.

try sound test there must be swiftlets, even as rangnok said, in your area they maybe have only 2 breeding cycle it's worth to try.

huuwi

[huuwi]

Hi huuwi,

BH1 in songkhla province.

BH2 is about 100km from songkhla town (on the way Nakhon).

Actually another one BH 3,

4m x 18m x 3.5 floors x 3 building join together.

Less than 1yr farming, almost 80 to 100nests. (about 100km from songkhla town).

Total sale : 7MB

Redbullhorn,

is ok, don't give, keep searching for good location. Sure one day u'll find.

will talk to a buddy of mine and see if he is interested.

have to get a paper chart, i'm lost here.

huuwi

[h90]

hey huuwi...i just checked ! all of them have twin propeller and sitting on the cable ...dam_n! #$%^#x!%*

There's about between 200-250 of them this morning....What a waste !

Might be still worth to try to download some external sounds and take a speaker and check.....

[rangnok]

Hey guys,

BH 3 sold, just received 2MB as booking payment, now awaiting for the buyers to work the loan with bank. if interested, pls act fast.

Secondly, i'm planning to EXPAND one of my BH in songkhla (NOT the one mentioned above), may be let call it BH4. This BH4 is currently tenanted about 1000nests +/- within 1 building (4m x 18m x 2 floors). I will buy over the neighbour building (next door only) and THEN convert it into a BH. The wall in between 2 building will be demolished, so that the new BH will be occupied by the young bird faster which come from existing BH4 & new comer from outside too. This is the fastest way & safest way to increase the bird in the new BH.

My idea is, anyone that interested, are welcome to join venture with me (buy share only, to be my partner). The conditions,

a. only allow for 1 person to join

b. the condition is not only for new BH but also existing BH.

c. Min. purchase share; 30%

The valuation :

2 unit worth 4MB (market price)

Total value (for 2 BH) = 12MB.

To own these BH, a company limited has to be registered OR u may joint as partner in one of my company that i use to purchase this building.

[RedBullHorn]

Wow !!!!!

Roughly how many nests make up a KG ?

Edited July 26, 2011 by RedBullHorn

[huuwi]

Wow !!!!!

Roughly how many nests make up a KG ?

depend on size, 100+ nest to a kg

huuwi

[rangnok]

HI guys,

Basically in thailand, 1kg = 120 to 135pcs BUT malaysia is 1kg = 130 to 150pcs. Is it all depending on how often u harvest and condition and location of the BH.

[h90]

just got my temperature humidify (spelling)sensor.

Where should I mount it? in the middle height (1.5 meter) or top where the birds make their nest?

[huuwi]

just got my temperature humidify (spelling)sensor.

Where should I mount it? in the middle height (1.5 meter) or top where the birds make their nest?

i have visited a bh in malaysia (quiet bussy) and they had it on the floor, so i put my one on the floor too.

on top i dont think so, to much huminity next to the nest and planks.

now with the rainy weather i have 90% without humifier.

back to phuket today for r&r, haha

rangnok????

[huuwi]

just got my temperature humidify (spelling)sensor.

Where should I mount it? in the middle height (1.5 meter) or top where the birds make their nest?

i have visited a bh in malaysia (quiet bussy) and they had it on the floor, so i put my one on the floor too.

on top i dont think so, to much huminity next to the nest and planks.

now with the rainy weather i have 90% without humifier.

back to phuket today for r&r, haha

rangnok????

meeemm, sensor!!! i should take more caution when reading.

my one is in the middle of the room.

huuwi

[rangnok]

I don't have any sensor. Actually, humidity should be measure at the nestling plank, that is where the bird stay not below. High humidity required for nestling area therefore, the nest will always elastic instead of cripsy dry.

[h90]

I don't have any sensor. Actually, humidity should be measure at the nestling plank, that is where the bird stay not below. High humidity required for nestling area therefore, the nest will always elastic instead of cripsy dry.

thanks, I'll nail it on a nestling plank. Also I think the temperature will be different between the top and the bottom.

What shall I target? 27-29 degree Celcius and 75-85 Moisture?

[rangnok]

h90,

Yes for both humidity and temperature. actually, both of this not too important as compare to the design i.e. inside and outside. Inside : the flying path, airflow & light and outside : direction of bird flying path, sunlight, wind. As long as not too hot and not too dry, it should be ok.

If too hot, u can either install additional roof sheet on top or metal sheet to the external wall that facing the sun esp. sunset.

Humidity : as long as ur design is right, your humid created by the humidifier should be able to maintain the humid level. Too wet, nest will turn green (fungus) & too dry, the nest will crack.

IF the "design" is fail, no matter how good you control the humid and temperature, no bird will stay back. Other than that, the sound system & sound has to be good too. Sound system inclusive of type of amplifier, quality of cable, suitable speaker and finally, setting of speaker. Speaker form part of the important tool for guiding and pull the bird into your designated location/room/places within the building. Right partition will also ensure a better security feeling to the bird and also guidance of flying path inside the BH.