Always a 7 day window so doesn't matter when you turn up within those 14 days early or late. Can report at any immigration office within the kingdom so if you forget to do it before leaving on holiday within Thailand just make sure you have your passport. If you are late of more than 7 days then the fine is 500B a day upto a maximum of 20000B even if you overstay by 1 year. However if you don't have the 20000B be prepaired to be on the next flight out as they will deport you. Pay the 20000B and they'll give you a 1 month visa to get your paperwork in order so you can apply afresh.

What Charlie said on a previous post is wrong as your visa runs out on the date given so one year after you first applied for it to the day regardless of registering 7 days early or 7 days late for your 90 day segments it makes no difference as to when you will have to reapply for your annual non-immigrant. You pay for a full year and that's what you get!

Sorry but much of the information in this post is wrong.

You are supposed to report to the office that issued your extension. Although some offices will make an exception.

If you are late reporting by more than 7 days you will be fined 2,000 Baht.

You can be fined 5,000 Baht and 200 Baht for every day that you are late. This applies if you are arrested for it, but the usual fine is 2,000 Baht.

The rest of the post seems to be getting confused between 90 Day Reports and Visas and has no relevance to what is being discussed here.

in phuket last time I forgot and was 7 weeks late ;-( went in and gave the guy 1,000 baht and no problems. I am thinkig thou of not even bothering again with it. I know people thta take the slip out and keep it and then fly out and never once been asked for it.

Always a 7 day window so doesn't matter when you turn up within those 14 days early or late. Can report at any immigration office within the kingdom so if you forget to do it before leaving on holiday within Thailand just make sure you have your passport. If you are late of more than 7 days then the fine is 500B a day upto a maximum of 20000B even if you overstay by 1 year. However if you don't have the 20000B be prepaired to be on the next flight out as they will deport you. Pay the 20000B and they'll give you a 1 month visa to get your paperwork in order so you can apply afresh.

What Charlie said on a previous post is wrong as your visa runs out on the date given so one year after you first applied for it to the day regardless of registering 7 days early or 7 days late for your 90 day segments it makes no difference as to when you will have to reapply for your annual non-immigrant. You pay for a full year and that's what you get!

Sorry but much of the information in this post is wrong.

You are supposed to report to the office that issued your extension. Although some offices will make an exception.

If you are late reporting by more than 7 days you will be fined 2,000 Baht.

You can be fined 5,000 Baht and 200 Baht for every day that you are late. This applies if you are arrested for it, but the usual fine is 2,000 Baht.

The rest of the post seems to be getting confused between 90 Day Reports and Visas and has no relevance to what is being discussed here.

I wouldn't have posted it if it was false information! Yes if your late posting your yearly visa you maybe charged more but on the 90 days I've never had to pay more even on day 8, 9 or 10. I actually overstayed 10 months and all I payed was 20000B which is the maximum they can charge for an overstay, got a 1 month visa, reapplied for my non-immigrant O and got it stamped a month later without any problem.

Immigration has assured me that you can register your 90 days from wherever you happen to be in Thailand. So long as you speak with the immigration officer with the respect they believe they deserve your immigration office is only a phonecall away and they will be happy to make the call from wherever.

All from experience not make believe! My advise is to befriend your local immigration office, get the mobile number of the person who counts and contact them directly when you have a problem. I'm broke so bribes aren't in the equation just good manners.

We are talking about 90 day address reporting - that is not overstay and it is not subject to overstay charges of 500 baht per day up to 20k.

For 90 day reports the max fine is 5,000 baht and an additional 200 baht per day until paid. The normal fine by policy is 2,000 baht if you offer to pay or 4,000 baht if they have to require you to pay.

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Do you want me to fax you the invoice? 20000B in fines for 10 months not the 60000B+ using your calculations! 1900B to reapply for a non immigrant 'O' and a temporary 1 month visa which became a year at no extra charge. Not false true! Maybe I'm lieing so point to something I have to gain from speaking BS?

Edited May 30, 201016 yr by Jirapa

This thread is about 90 day address reporting - it is not about overstay of your permitted to stay time (which is obviously what you are talking about with that 20,000 baht figure). Different subjects.

This thread is about 90 day address reporting - it is not about overstay of your permitted to stay time (which is obviously what you are talking about with that 20,000 baht figure). Different subjects.

That's my point! I went 10 months over the 90 days. Nice immigration office here.

Sorry need to edit that as it's not clear! I didn't register my address for 10 months and was fined 20000B not 60000B+

Edited May 30, 201016 yr by Jirapa

You went 10 months over your 90 day permitted to stay stamp - not over 90 day address reporting (which you would not be doing on a 90 day visa entry).

90 day address reporting is a totally different matter and only concerns those that have obtained an extension of stay. When allowed to stay longer than 90 days and you do not leave the country a TM.47 form must be filed with your address.

Your problem had to have been overstay for staying in the country longer than you were allowed. That is a fine of 500 baht per day up to 20,000 baht.

This thread is about 90 day address reporting - it is not about overstay of your permitted to stay time (which is obviously what you are talking about with that 20,000 baht figure). Different subjects.

That's my point! I went 10 months over the 90 days. Nice immigration office here.

Sorry need to edit that as it's not clear! I didn't register my address for 10 months and was fined 20000B not 60000B+

Which is nothing to do with 90 day reporting (is anyone hearing an echo here?)

You went 10 months over your 90 day permitted to stay stamp - not over 90 day address reporting (which you would not be doing on a 90 day visa entry).

90 day address reporting is a totally different matter and only concerns those that have obtained an extension of stay. When allowed to stay longer than 90 days and you do not leave the country a TM.47 form must be filed with your address.

Your problem had to have been overstay for staying in the country longer than you were allowed. That is a fine of 500 baht per day up to 20,000 baht.

365 days non immigrant O not a 90 day permit and not saying my immigration office didn't pull some strings as we get on well.

This thread is about 90 day address reporting - it is not about overstay of your permitted to stay time (which is obviously what you are talking about with that 20,000 baht figure). Different subjects.

That's my point! I went 10 months over the 90 days. Nice immigration office here.

Sorry need to edit that as it's not clear! I didn't register my address for 10 months and was fined 20000B not 60000B+

Which is nothing to do with 90 day reporting (is anyone hearing an echo here?)

90 day reporting! Been doing it for 10 years now minus the 10 months when I didn't but should have been

Edited May 30, 201016 yr by Jirapa

There is a multi entry non immigrant O visa which provides only 90 day stays but is valid for a year - you leave/return to get a new 90 day stay.

There is a non immigrant OA visa/extension of stay which would provide a one year stay.

There is a one year extension of stay from Immigration (not a visa).

Your post is

1900B to reapply for a non immigrant 'O'

which is a new one year extension of stay from Immigration - so it appears your extension of stay had run out and you were fined for the overstay - nothing to do with address reporting. If you were fined 20k baht for not reporting address you were taken big time.

As 90 day reporting has only been asked in the last five or so years (and some still have not started) wonder why you were doing it 10 years ago?

I have yet to see any report of a fine more than 2,000 baht for someone not reporting or being late.

There is a multi entry non immigrant O visa which provides only 90 day stays but is valid for a year - you leave/return to get a new 90 day stay.

There is a non immigrant OA visa/extension of stay which would provide a one year stay.

There is a one year extension of stay from Immigration (not a visa).

Your post is

1900B to reapply for a non immigrant 'O'

which is a new one year extension of stay from Immigration - so it appears your extension of stay had run out and you were fined for the overstay - nothing to do with address reporting. If you were fined 20k baht for not reporting address you were taken big time.

As 90 day reporting has only been asked in the last five or so years (and some still have not started) wonder why you were doing it 10 years ago?

I have yet to see any report of a fine more than 2,000 baht for someone not reporting or being late.

As far as I can remember your right about 5-6 years but try going 10 months without registering and see if the fine is 2000B. Good luck! My advice to anyone is don't get into those kind of situations

Edited May 30, 201016 yr by Jirapa

The fine for late 90 day reporting is 2,000 Baht.

However, if like me, you go out fairly regularly to local countries on a multiple entry/re-entry visa, the 90 days starts from the date on the arrival stamp in your passport. So it is possible not to have to report at all.

This wasn't the case for me when I re-entered through Chiang Mai airport from KUL. Still had to report, the following week as it was.

I think this is another inconsistency.

Hi Naboo

Why do you say "Still had to report, the following week as it was."

If you go out of the Kingdom - then the Current 90 days STOPS

A NEW 90 day reporting STARTS when you re-enter and is 90 days AFTER you arrive.

Who told you to report the following week after arrival?

Bill

The fine for late 90 day reporting is 2,000 Baht.

The Fine for Late 90 day address reporting is ... Up to Bht 5,000

But currently only Bht 2,000 is collected.

Bill

Well still haven't received back my receipt for having mailed via EMS the 90-day report. I called and they said it would be mailed this Friday (3 weeks after they received it.) I can only hope, and protect my EMS record and copies.

Meanwhile, this thread has highlighted numerous experiences as to what is or is not the rule. Remember 1st, TIT. Here is what a friend of mine emailed me after I shared the range of experiences.

"The immigration office is infamous for its inconsistency. The reason I said that the 90 rule was not reset when you leave the country is because I thought it was reset, went to immigration 90 after returning to the country, and was fined 2,000 baht because I hadn't reported after 90 days since my last reporting. The person below ... quotes no immigration rule, just his own observation. Since the immigration office is so inconsistent, they may have let him slide the last time he reported. Who knows what they will do the next time? My rule of thumb is to play it safe and go with the most conservative reading of the rules. I don't really care what these other Expats do."

In my home of birth, I'd try to get this settled as to the rule. Here, I think the above advice to be conservative each time is safer. I hope sharing this can soothe a few folk who've had enough variant experiences as to not believing any of it will matter next time.

The rule as outlined on the Immigration web site:

* The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a visa extension.

* If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht.

* If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case.

* For details contact 0-2141-7881

I was under the impression it was 500THB per day

I was under the impression it was 500THB per day

No. That is for overstay.

The rule as outlined on the Immigration web site:

* The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is in no way equivalent to a visa extension.

* If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying the Immigration Bureau or notifying the Immigration Bureau later than the set period, a fine of 2,000.- Baht will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he will be fined 4,000.- Baht.

* If a foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1 in every case.

* For details contact 0-2141-7881

I agree that the wording makes sense, and had that interpretation applied during my very first instance of reporting using the same office as my friend who got charged a fine... go figure. Maybe when my friend left and returned the inserted sheet was left in his passport, but not in mine. Maybe the rule is applied differently after one begins extending the visa past a year. Maybe a prior foreigner in line got the officer upset and he was exercising his authority to validate the pecking order. There isn't any one for sure expectation about many rules here, but I still consider this a no-win situation for the foreigner...check and mate once the officer states a fine is owed.

1. If you were to pull out the law, chapter and verse - you'd be making him look wrong - not good
   (by-the-way, I could not locate this at the MFA website, where else?)
   
2. If you were to get support by calling the number, same loss of face magnified in front of the BK superior officer ... and not good... especially any other time you come into the office.
   
3. If you were right and still payed the fine, you feel forever like an idiot wearing a "Kick Me" sign nd again... not good.
   

The options I see as possibly working involve getting confirmation prior to the original 90-Day deadline and / or explaining the rule that you bring along - as you state why you are showing up at the later date, so the officer is on notice and can avoid the issue by ignoring your instance - which still might not succeed, but has better odds of success

Does this approach sound about right to others out there, or am I just too willing to believe the system is stacked against our expectations?

This is an Immigration fine - has nothing to do with MFA. My quote is from the Immigration web site as I indicated in my post.

I would ask that he confirm with his supervisor if I believe he has made a mistake. Believe it or not most times the error is found and corrected without offense if done is an asking rather than telling manner.

I did my 90 day reporting today along with the 90 day extension (1 week ahead of time, so extended to 6th Sept), so the dates are now understandably out of sync. Reading the above, the reporting day count starts again when you leave and re-enter the country. Is this the same if you re-enter with a re-entry permit? I now have a stapled reminder in my passport to report on/by 30th August but will have left and re-entered the country by then.

Besides the fact that I could do both again on 6th Sept because of the 7 day window, for future reference, could I technically leave reporting until 90 days after I re-enter Thailand (despite the fact I wouldn't have 90 days permission to stay), and would Immigration be happy with that on seeing a re-entry stamp?

Edited June 2, 201016 yr by TCA

When returning to Thailand the 90 days starts again. Day one being the day of return.

When returning to Thailand the 90 days starts again. Day one being the day of return.

Thanks Lite Beer. So arrival counts as notification in advance of 90 days?

Therefore can I do reporting well in advance of being back in Thailand for 90 days? i.e. so can bring the reporting and extension dates in line?

When returning to Thailand the 90 days starts again. Day one being the day of return.

Thanks Lite Beer. So arrival counts as notification in advance of 90 days?

Therefore can I do reporting well in advance of being back in Thailand for 90 days? i.e. so can bring the reporting and extension dates in line?

You are reporting a stay of 90 continuous days in Thailand. The day you enter is day one.

You make your next report 90 days after you re entered. +/- 7 days.

Thanks again LB. OK, so you need to report after being here 90 days regardless. Got it. That's going to double my visits to Immigration after I leave the country and the dates go out of kilter. Lucky I live close by.

I would just try to do them both when you next extend. They may accept and you win.

I would just try to do them both when you next extend. They may accept and you win.

They did in Khon Kaen when I extended 2 months ago.